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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: mfb1025 on Monday 25 May 09 01:07 BST (UK)
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Looking for information on my GGGgrandparents Bernard Murphy and Bridget (Biddy) Reilly.
Children I have found are:
Michael Murphy b 1863
MARY MURPHY - b 3 Mar 1865 Clones, Monaghan, Ireland
JOHN MURPHY - b 25 Jan 1867 Clones, Monaghan, Ireland
BRIDGET MURPHY - b 6 Mar 1868 , Monaghan, Ireland
JAMES MURPHY - b 27 Apr 1870 , Monaghan, Ireland
BERNARD MURPHY - b 9 Aug 1874 , Monaghan, Ireland
Annie Murphy - b 2 Jul 1877 Callowhill, Monaghan, Ireland
Twins;
Rose Murphy - b 20 Mar 1880 Callowhill, , Monaghan, Ireland
Patrick Murphy - b 20 Mar 1880 Callowhill, , Monaghan, Ireland
Can anyone tell me about Callowhill ? Is it part of Clones ?
I have records of 5 children, Mary, Anna. Bridget, Rose and Michael in Massachusetts after 1882.
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Hierarchy county Monaghan
barony Dartree
civil parish Currin
townland Callowhill
Map Coordinates H 48155 16892
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Callowhill is about 11km South of Clones
see this google map link : http://www.rootschat.com/links/06fe/
I presume you have already seen the 1861 Griffiths Valuation entries for James, Philip & William Murphy in Callowhill
there is a Patrick Reilly listed in the same townland... see list of the occupants : http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ff/
Shane
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Thank you both. I wasn't sure if Callowhill was a townland in Parish Clones - now I see it's in Parish Currin, in the Union of Clones. This clarification gives me a more specific place to look for records. I cannot tell from the births prior to 1877, that state only Monaghan or Clones, Monaghan, if they were in Clones = townland, Parish or if they meant Union ???? It's confusing geography, for sure.
The only Murphy I have uncovered who would have been alive in 1861 would be Bernard and I have no evidence yet that he was in Callowhill before 1877. I had not seen that Ask about Ireland website before, so thank you for that lead. I'll explore it further and perhaps find something in Griffith'ss after I get more a few more pieces.
Thank you,
Maureen
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Will get into Monaghan County Council this week and I'll ask them to rename it....it's too easy to find!! ;D ;D..
Good hunting!!
You don't mention their religion which is all important!!
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I cannot tell from the births prior to 1877, that state only Monaghan or Clones, Monaghan, if they were in Clones = townland, Parish or if they meant Union ???? It's confusing geography, for sure.
the Civil registrations (i.e. with dates from 1864 ) are indexed under registration districts, which are equivalent to Poor Law Unions. Theres a map of these here : http://www.rootschat.com/links/05d7/
Callowhill is in the PLU of Clones, so that's what will be listed on the Index
see the townland database at : www.thecore.com/seanruad
Parish records would list the Parish and sometimes the townland
Shane
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Wow, thanks. That helps me understand a bit more. I just started genealogy in February, there are so many things to learn. It's a great education in so many more topics than just who my ancester's were. The community of people willing to help is incredible.
Thanks again.
Maureen
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Any idea of religion, parishes or anything?
Am doing a few days research this week in Dartry area!
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the Civil Parish of Currin equates to
RC Parish of Killeevan - earliest surviving record 1871 (NLI)
CofI parish of Currin (Rockcorry) - earliest surviving record 1810
there is also a CofI parish named Currin Drum..
Shane
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No point in me looking at C of I if they were RC.
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They would be Roman Catholic.
Can you write directly to the Parishes. I have a request in with Tipperary Family Research on another branch of my family. Is there a similar entity in Monaghan? I've read they don't have their records online yet.
I am in the United States, so getting to the National Library is still a wish list item.
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You can write to the parishes, but can't say if they will reply. some do, some do not.
Am mainly doing C of I this week, sorry.
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Thank you for your help. You've given me some leads to follow and some understanding of the records I have found so far. I'll research avenues to the records in Parish Killeeven and Callowhill.
Hope you have a successful research trip,
Maureen
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I have to go to Kileevan, Cootehill and Ballybay areas anyway, will note any RC Churches.
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Looking for help with Bernard Murphy and Bridget Reilly of Callowhill, Parish of Currin, Barony Dartree, Union Clones, County Monaghan, Ireland.
They probably married around 1862.
Children: Michael b. 1863, Mary b. 1865, John b. 1867 Bridget b. 1868, James b. 1870
Bernard b.1874 Anna b. 1877 , Rose and Patrick b. 1880.
Thanks,
Maureen
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From what I can make out Drumully church covers Currin and Galloon with marriages from 1864 - 1881 and baptisms 1845 - 1881. These are in PRONI Film; Mic/1D/15 with Clones marriages 1821 - 1867 Baptisms 1848 - 1866 on flm Mic/1D/21.
There's 3 possible churches for Kileevan area; Kileevan, Kilseery and Aghabog...but not sure what years are covered there.
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I am searching for my great grandparents, Matthew Murphy and Rose Rudden Murphy of Callowhill, Monaghan. I have established this connection through the records of the 1880 U.S. Census, Roman Catholic Baptism Registers of Baltimore Archdiocese, and the GRO 1867 Birth Record of my grandmother's brother.
Assuming that Callowhill is the dwelling place of my great-grandparents [1867 Birth Record], which Roman Catholic Parrish or Parrishes should I search for records of the Baptism of my grandmother, Susan Murphy [1863] and the marriage of my great-grandparents, Matthew Murphy and Rose Rudden?
I have read all the emails in this thread and hope that several of the contributors will get in touch with me.
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Well Callowhill is in Currin parish so I'd presume Scotshouse would be their church.
Have you looked on 1901 and 1911 census for them? http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ then you just put Callowhill in for Townland Monaghan for county and you can look under 1911 then change to 1901 under Census year.
This will get you everyone in Callowhill, you could just put Murphy in under surname if you want.
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http://www.rip.ie/death_notices_detail.asp?NoticeID=66808 gives name of church.
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Thanks to Hallmark for quick reply.
My Murphy family left Ireland in 1868. I have found several male Murphys listed in Griffith's Valuations for Callowhill, but this source does not list members of household. My assumption is that Matthew Murphy was a younger son in one of the Murphy households and worked as a laborer and thus was not listed as a tennant on Griffith's role.
I'll restate my initial question: which parrish church or churches [Roman Catholic] might have served the Callowhill community for Baptisms and Marriages in the late 1850s and early 1860s?
I would appreciate any clarification or suggestions you could make.
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Like I said; Well Callowhill is in Currin parish so I'd presume Scotshouse would be their church.
and also;
http://www.rip.ie/death_notices_detail.asp?NoticeID=66808 gives name of church.
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I am researching my great great grandparents and know that Bridget Murphy is my gx2 grandmother married to James Dunn. I have Bridget Riley (Reily) and Bernard Murphy as her parents but have little to no information on them.
If you think this is a match I will be glad to share what I can, which is mainly from Bridget Murphy's descendents.
Have a blessed Easter.
Christi
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Bridget Murphy Dunn is sister to my great grandmother Mary Murphy Fay. I'm afraid I have noting more than names for Bernard and Bridget and that they lived in Callowhill, Parish of Currin, Barony Dartree, Union Clones, County, Monaghan.
I have some information on Bridget and Mary's sisters Anna and Rose ( who was like a grandmother to my father as Mary died in 1929. I'm told as a child we used to visit her in Newburyport. Other than Michael I have very little on the boys.
I have your Briget up to 72 years old, and I have her children but not any information on them.
I grew up in Brockton, where they lived. Would love to share information with you.
Maureen
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I am researching for my Murphy and Rudden families in Callowhill in the 1860s. My great grandparents emigrated from Callowhill to Baltimore, Md in 1868. Using Griffith's Valuation and tithe applotment books, I have traced three Murphys and several Ruddens [Rodden] to the 1830s. A researcher in Dublin has found estate records which indicate the Murphys were in Callowhill as early as the 1780s. My working hypothesis is that the William Murphy and Matthew Rudden of Griffith's Valuations are my probable great-great grandfathers. I would like to link up with anyone working on this thread to share information about both families in the 19th century. I plan to visit Callowhill this coming Spring [2013]. I'll close with a question: are there Roman Catholic gravesites and/or cemeteries worth visiting in the Callowhill area?
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Will be visiting Callowhill area May 13 to 16, 2013. Interested in any contacts members of this discussion list have with current residents of Callowhill and/or County Monaghan. Especially interested in contacting anyone with information about the Murphy family that resided in Callowhill in the 19th century. I have traced the Murphys of Callowhill back to the 1760s; my great grandfather Matthew Murphy, his wife Rose Rudden, and my grandmother Susan Murphy left Callowhill in 1868 to settle in Baltimore, Maryland. Any information or contacts with the Murphys of Callowhill, past and present, will be greatly appreciated. I am willing to share what I have found with others.
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I hope you don't mind me resurrecting this thread after so long. I'm wondering if this is somehow my Murphy family connection to Monaghan. My 2nd great grandfather is Patrick Murphy who I believe is from the area. He married Bridget Connolly in 1892 in Clones. They then moved to Blantyre Lanarkshire Scotland where they lived for the rest of their lives. Sadly Patrick's death certificate does not contain his parents names.
With such little information I have struggled to do anything with this line of my family. Earlier this year I ordered Patrick's Scottish 1939 national register extract which states his DOB to be August 3rd 1867. With that info I still haven't been able to find his birth certificate, so I wonder if his birth just wasn't registered period?! From his Clones RC Marriage cert his father name is John Murphy. Trawling through irishgenealogy.ie hasn't come up with much. My great uncle remember's Patrick and Bridget well, he remembers being told Bridget was orphaned and lived in an orphanage in Monaghan which checks out with the research I have done. But sadly he does not remember Patrick's Mother's name though he is sure he did once many years ago before I was around! :(
I noticed the OP lists twins, my family has a long history of twins, starting with Patrick Murphy who had twins of his own. His daughter (my great grandmother) also had twins. Clutching at straws maybe, but I don't have much else to go on.
Certainly would be open to suggestions.