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I am looking for information for my mother in law, Her fathers names was John James Yansch from Mildura, if anyone has any information about him or his family it would be very appriciated.
She dosn't know much about him as she was only young when he passed away but she knows he had 2 sisters their names were Marion and Ettie? (married name Alderton) and she thinks her grandmothers name was Ethal Yansch.
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DEATH:
YANSCH Jno Jas age 39 yrs d. 1953 at MILDURA #21254
Father: August
Mother: Ethel JELLETT
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Hi fire,
John James YANSCH d 1953 aged 39 Mildura- August YANSCH and Ethel JELLETT # 21254
Back with more in a few minutes.
Regards
Alison
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BIRTH:
YANSCH Jno Jas b. 1914 at MILDURA #5943R
Mother: Ethel JELLETT
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National Library's digitised newspapers
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
The Argus, Melbourne, Tuesday 26 January 1937
In Mildura Court, John James YANSCH, aged 24, was fined 1 pound for unlawfully assaulting Charlie Lieu, and 1 pound for drunkeness.
There is also a Divorce Court hearing listed YANSCH v YANSCH, 27 November 1940. No Christian names given - it may not even be your family.
Judith
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Sister:
YANSCH Eileen Elizth b. 1906 at MILDURA #4984
Father: August
Mother: Ethel JELLETT
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John August Henry YANSCH { b SA} m Ethel JELLETT { b Vic} 1905 # 2471
1. Eileen Elizabeth b 1906 Mildura # 4984
2. John James b 1914 Mildura # 5943R
Regards
Alison
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I'll let you go with the VIC indexes Alison... ;D
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The National Archives site has two YANSCH men shown as having served in WW2, including John James who gives his NOK as Olive WILLIAMS. There is also a chap Harold John MARTIN who gives his NOK as Ethel YANSCH>
None of these records have yet been digitised but you can ask for them (pay a fee).
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
Search as a Guest
Judith
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There are no Yanschs listed in SA, maybe they changed their name to how it was pronounced ??
Johann August JANSCH b 25.8.1872 - Johann Wilhelm Heinrich JANSCH and Maryann BROWNLEY Head of Julia DIS: Kap # 112453
If this is him he had 2 siblings. His mother is listed as SAVARNEY and SAVIANEY on the other birth regs.
Regards
Alison
No worries Merlin ;)
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John August YANSCH d 1947 aged 77 Cohuna- unknown parents # 22353
William Arthur Cox YANSCH d 1937 aged 16 unknown father and Ethel JELLETT # 16708 { maybe a reason for divorce ?? strange not listing the father}
mdify Also listed under William Arthur Cox JELLETT # 16708
There is no listing for a death for Ethel YANSCH or JELLETT .
Can't find a birth either for Ethel.
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Can't find a birth either for Ethel
Ethel's Birth:
JELLETT Ethel b. 1883 MURT #25340
Father: James Philip J
Mother: Mary Ann WODDEN
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Also on the NAA files is a dgitised record for one
JOHN WILLIAM HENRY YANSCH of Wentworth which is near Mildura.
He states he is from Germany and came to NSW via South Australia. He is married with 3 children and ONE ADOPTED SON.
Perhaps he is related ;)
Sue
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Electoral rolls - Some of the family seem not to be enrolled consistently - for example Ethel is on the Rolls in 1914 and 1924 and then pops up again in 1942. All sorts of reasons for this, of course.
1914
Ethel YANSCH, home duties, Olive Ave, Mildura
1924 Ethel is at Benetook Ave Mildura
1931
John August (farm labourer) and Maud Alice YANSCH at Tresco
1936, 1937
John James YANSCH (Labourer) at Riverbank, district of Mildura
1937
Maud Alice YANSCH, home duties, 10 Roy St, Wangaratta
1942
Ethel YANSCH, home duties, 41 13th Street, Mildura
John James and Olive Myrtle YANSCH (Labourer) 111 Langtree Ave, Mildura
1949
Ethel and John James at 41 13th Street, Mildura
1954 (extent of my access)
Ethel at 56 Cureton Ave, Mildura
Judith
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Johann Wilhelm Heinrich JANSCH ALISON
JOHN WILLIAM HANRY YANSCH of Wentworth which is near Mildura. SUE
Yes, that's him. :D
Sue
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Maybe her remarrying ???
YANSCH Ethel m. ELTON Jas Alex 1927 #13309
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YEP! She remarried ;D ... here's her DEATH ;D
ELTON Ethel age 91yrs d. MILDURA 1974 #26116
Father: Jellet James
Mother: Mary Ann WADHAM
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Thanks for that Merlin. I did see it I should have said I couldn't be sure about the birth { not knowing the parents names} ;D
Now some marriages
Ethel Elizabeth YANSCH m Edward Angus ALDERTON 1922 # 7096
Ethel YANSCH m James Alex ELTON 1927 # 13309
Marion Ethel YANSCH m Lindsay Cuthbert DANSON 1931 # 7892
John James Maloney YANSCH m Florence Amy JONES 1934 # 8782
Edwrad Angus ALDERTON d 1956 aged 58 Mildura- James ALDERTON and Caroline Emma POCOCK # 19002
No death up to 1985 for Ethel Elizabeth ALDERTON
Ah ha!
Ethel ELTON d 1974 aged 91 Mildura - James JELLETT and Mary Ann WADHAM # 26116 { so Merlin was right with the birth}
No deaths for the DANSONS up to 1985
No death for Florence YANSCH to 1985
Regards
Alison
PS I'm not getting the red warnings ??
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alison2763 - PS I'm not getting the red warnings ??
Your not the only one >:(
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thank you everyone this has been fantastic. My mother in law is over the moon with this information as she really didn't know much about her fathers family. Thank you and any other information that any one can give us would be very appriciated!
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With regard to one of the marriages found by Merlin:
Elecotral rolls show
1936 Edward Angus ALDERTON, horticulturalist, Cowra Ave Irymple (district of Mildura)
At the same address Eileen Elizabeth ALDERTON
1937 Edward is listed as a labourer and they are both at 126 Lime Ave, Mildura
No more entries for Edward but Eileen Elizabeth ALDERTON is still in Mildura in 1942 and 1954, at 75 Lemon Ave, Mildura
Looks as though the marriage index may have the wrong name. (Eileen Elizabeth is Ethel's daughter, as listed by Merlin and Alison)
Judith
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There is a tree on Ancestry with Ethel Elizabeth and Edward Alderton.
Shows a boy and a girl still living.
Annie
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Hi
The naturalisation record which I mentioned above for JOHN WILLIAM HENRY YANSCH record him as having a son named AUGUST.
Here is his death registration. Shame we do not learn his parents' names from it.
IN 1923 YANSCH, JOHN W. H. 78 YEARS WENTWORTH WENTWORTH reg. 4532.
Sue
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Ethels family
John JELLETT { b Adelaide} m Mary Ann WODAN { b Tasmania} 1869 # 4720
1. Amelia b 1870 Lake
2. Mary Ann b 1873 Lake Bolac d 1873 aged 2M Lake Bolac
3. Elizabeth Ann b 12.4.1875 SA Dis: Gre 149/409
4. Mary Ann b 25.11.1876 SA Dis: Gre 175/19 d 14.4.1877 aged 4M RES & POD: Mount Gambier Gre 80/310
4. Esther b 1878 Murtoa d 1879 aged 5M Murtoa { listed as Ethel}
5. James Phillip John b 1880 Murtoa
6. Ethel b 1883 Murtoa
7. Ruth b 1886 NURR
Mary Ann JELLETT d 1900 aged 65 Tyntynder - William WADDAM and Cath GIFFORD # 11046
Another child for Ethel ??
Victor JELLETT b 1904 Mildura unknown father Ellen JELLETT # 4728 d ??? 1903 aged D Mildura unknown father Ethel JELLETT # 14589
James JELLET and Ann GARMEN/GEWMEN/GORMAN { no marriage listed}
1.James Phillip John b 28.7.1844 Black Forest Dis: Ade 1/77
2. Frederick b 21.7.1848 Not recorede Ade 1/80
3. Alfred b 29.11.1850 Norwood Ade 3/130
4. Elizabeth b 9.7.1854 Goodwood Park Ade 5/8 d 25.5.1866 aged 11y Res & POD: Adelaide Ade 18/322
Ann JELLETT d 7.7.1884 aged 77y Widow James JELLETT { dead Husband} Res and POD: Norwood 139/173
James JELLETT d 15.8.1867 aged 76y William JELLETT { possible relation} Res & POD: North Adelaide Ade F 29/9
or
James JELLETT 2.3.1883 aged 63y Rel N/R Res& POD: Hyde Park Ade 126/149
Regards
Alison
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The Janschs:
1. Johann August 25.8.1872 112/453 { posted before}
2. Augustina Sarah b 21.5.1874 Johann Wilhelm Heinrich JANSCH and Maryann SAVIANEY Julia Creek Kap. 137/20 d 6.3.1875 aged 9m Henry JANSCH {F} Res & POD: Julia Creek Kap. 65/237
3. Regina Bertha b 27.8.1875 Johann Wilhelm Heinrcih JANSCH and Mary Ann SAVARNEY Freidrichswalde Kap. 156/162
4. Carl Wilhelm d 4.4.1873 aged 2Y Johann Wilhelm Heinrich RES &POD: Julia Creek Kap. 52/119
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I am looking for information for my mother in law, Her fathers names was John James Yansch from Mildura, if anyone has any information about him or his family it would be very appriciated.
..........she thinks her grandmothers name was Ethal Yansch.
There are three registrations for John James. It would appear that his father was John MALONEY.
JELLETT John James
Father not recorded Mother Ethel JELLETT
At Mildura 1914 Reg#5943R
MALONEY John James
Father John Mother Ethel JELLETT
At Mildura 1914 Reg#5943R
YANSCH John James
Father not named Mother Ethel JELLETT
At Mildura 1914 Reg#5943R
Ties in with his marriage in 1934
Marriage
YANSCH John James Maloney
JONES Florence Amy
1934 Reg#8782
Cando
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Australian Electoral Records
1931, 1936, 1937
ELTON Ethel, Riverbank, Mildura HD
1909, 1914, 1919, 1924
Division Ballarat
ELTON James Alexander, Canadian Miner
1936
ELTON James Alexander Burwood, Wilcannia Labourer
1942
ELTON James Alexander 67 Lime Avenue, Mildura Labourer
1949
ELTON James Alexander Buronga Labourer
1954
ELTON James Alexander 67 Lime Avenue, Mildura Labourer
Birth
ELTON James Alexander
Father Henry Mother Frances Charlotte SAVORY
Ballarat East 1888 Reg#8558
and death allowing for possible lack of accurate information by the informant
Death
ELTON James Alexander
Father Henry Mother Frances ELLIS
At Mildura 85 years 1973 Reg#29941
It is possible due to the lack of employment during the 1930's depression, James had to travel for work.
Cando
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http://www.dcstechnical.com.au/Rusheen/1.0_People.htm
Property holders Electoral Roll
1887 Menindie Police Division
YANSCH Henry W J Freehold Darling River Tulney Point
Having read the application for naturalisation on NAA, you will have a little more background on the John William Henry YANSCH/JANSCH. I cannot see the SS VICTORIA arriving in Adelaide in 1857 however the date may not be correct as Johann Wilhelm Heinrich [John William Henry] would have only been 13 years of age. He states he was born 23 Jul 1844 in Grünberg, Silesia, Prussia.
In 1908 his son August was located about Mildura and adopted son in Wentworth. He states he doesn't know the location of his other son or daughter.
There are a couple more deaths in SA - I think it is necessary for your records to have the full information from the indexes.
JANSCH Carl Wilhelm
4 Apr 1873 2 years Status Child Relative Johann Wilhelm Heinrich JANSCH [Father]
Residence Julia Creek Death Place Julia Creek Cap 52/119
JANSCH Augustine Sarah
6 Mar 1875 9 months Status Child Father Henry JANSCH [Father]
Residence Julia Creek Death Place Julia Creek Kap 65/237
There is a possibility that the correct name was probably originally JAENSCH.
I wonder if it would be worthwhile purchasing a transcription of this death just on the slim chance it may have his wife's correct name.
4532/1923
YANSCH John W H
78 years Wentworth
District Wentworth
I can't see a burial record for him at the Wentworth Cemetery but he may not be buried there. The death certificate would have his place of burial.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent
Possibly Mary Ann's death
18015/1920
YENSCH Mary A
81 years Wentworth
District Wentworth
Cando
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As already posted, the birth mother's name was shown both as BROWNLEY and SAVARNEY/SAVIANEY on other JANSCH birth regs in SA.
Birth
JANSCH Regina Bertha
27 Aug 1875
Father Heinrich JANSCH Mother Mary Ann SAVARNEY
At Friedrichswalde Kap 156/162
Death
BUTLER Regina Bessie
Father Yensch Henry Mother Mary Ann BROWNLEE
At Tallangatta 62 years 1937 Reg#17120
and her marriage with the surname mistranscribed ::)
NSW
8145/1891
BUTLER William
TEUSCH Regina B
District Wentworth
Births in NSW
38614/1893
BUTLER Harriet S
Father William Mother Regina B
District Wentworth
17758/1896
BUTLER Anna B
Father William Mother Regina B
District Wentworth
Births Vic
BUTLER George Henry
Father William /Mother Bessie Regina YANSCH
At Cobram 1897 Reg#18130
BUTLER Benjamin Gibson
Father William Mother Bessie YANSCH
At Swan Hill 1899 Reg#30250
BUTLER May Gipson
Father William Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Mildura 1903 Reg#27474
BUTLER Byron August
Father Wm Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta 1905 REg#14035
BUTLER Erin Eric
Father Wm Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta 1906 Reg#30297
BUTLER Nancy Nina
Father William Mother Bessie Regina TENSCH
At Mitta Mitta 1909 Reg#21339
Death
BUTLER Nancy Nina
Father Butler Wm Mother Bessie Regina YENSCH
1909 At Tallangatta Reg#10671
BUTLER Bernard Beric
Father William Mother Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta 1910 Reg#31050
BUTLER Nancy Nellie
Father Willia m Mother Regina Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta 1913 Reg#26631
BUTLER Dale David
Father William Mother Regina Bessie YENSCH
At Tallangatta 1919 Reg#15221
Cando
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Further searching
Buried in the Methodist Section of the Wentworth Cemetery
YENSCH John William Henry
78 years Date of death 9 Feb 1923
Burial Date 10 Feb 1923
Buried in the General Section of the Wentworth Cemetery
YENSCH Mary Ann
81 years Date of Death 26 Nov 1920
Burial Date 27 December 1920
Cando
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Cando's Reply #26 explains why I was unable to find Ethel on Electoral Rolls of 1931, 1936, 1937 as she was enrolled with the surname ELTON.
However it seems that she and James Alexander ELTON were not at the same address in those years (possibly for the reason put forward by Cando). Then she is on the rolls with surname YANSCH, (1942-54) again at different addresses to him. I note, though, that her death cert is in the name ELTON.
Olive Myrtle YANSCH is at the same address as John James YANSCH in Mildura in 1942, in 1943 she is enrolled at Block 427, Buronga (division of Wentworth). I cannot see her after that. Nor can I see John James YANSCH's wife Florence at all.
Judith
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hi judb,
Olive Myrtle Yansch was my husbands grandmother, she passed away in January 1996 as far as i know Olive and John James had 2 daughters Janet (my mother in law) and Faye.
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Olive Myrtle YANSCH is at the same address as John James YANSCH in Mildura in 1942, in 1943 she is enrolled at Block 427, Buronga (division of Wentworth). I cannot see her after that. Nor can I see John James YANSCH's wife Florence at all.
I can't find this marriage to end 1942 limit of marriage indexes. As James John Maloney YANSCH married Florence Amy JONES in 1934 are we to assume that it may be his divorce in Nov 1940? Anyway you may have all this information.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando
If Im reading all the posts correctly
Unlikely to be his divorce in 1940 as he died in 1939 :-\
Dale
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Hi Cando
If Im reading all the posts correctly
Unlikely to be his divorce in 1940 as he died in 1939 :-\
Dale
Link to his WW2 record.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=467900
John James appears on the electoral rolls 1942 and 1943.
John James died in 1953 -
YANSCH John James
Father August Mother Ethel JELLETT
At Mildura 39 years 1953 Reg#21254
Cando
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Sorry about that - misread age for year
Youre probably correct about the divorce (as usual)
I have found another child for the family of
Johann W H Jansch and Mary Ann Savarney
Marie Johanne JAENSCH born 16 Aug 1866 North Rhine, SA to Heinrich JAENSCH and Mary BROWNLEIGH
Dale
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There are probably quite a few more......and with variations on the surname JANSCH/JAENSCH/ etc......however John Henry William did say in 1908 he had living three children - two sons and a daughter and an adopted son.
Birth in SA
JENSCH John William Edward
3 Feb 1869
Father John Henry William JENSCH Mother Mary Ann BROWNLEY
At St Kitts Ang 70/409
I wondered if this may be the above John's death. Balranald is some distance from Wentworth but in the south western corner of NSW.
Death
7532/1945
YENSCH John William Ernest
76 years Wakool Shire Labourer
District Balranald
I am really only speculating about the 1940's divorce however YANSCH is not a commonly occurring name. I did note that Olive WILLIAMS was NOK in 1941 on John James YANSCH service record and perhaps that was Olive Myrtle who married John James. His death certificate would give more information.
Cheers
Cando
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Re: the wife of Johann W H Jansch being recorded as Mary Ann Brownlee (variations in spelling ) and also Mary Ann Savenney (again variations in spelling)
Mary Ann Brown Lee (aged 18 years) married John Saverney (aged 35 years) on 3rd Nov 1858 at Christ Church, Kapunda, SA
Fathers given as Robert Brown Lee and John Saverney
Children born to this couple
John Saveeney 24 Jul 1859 at Julia Creek, SA
Mary Ann Savenny 19 Jan 1862 at Lady Gawler, Hd of Julia Creek, SA
John Savenney died 8 May 1864 aged 50 years, at Julia Creek, SA, Residence Anlaby, Julia Creek, SA
I have copied Surnames as recorded in indexes
Regards Dale
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Good researching Dale :)
I do hope that fire is pleased with the further information that has been posted. It would be good to have some feedback :).
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Thank you so very much for all the information you have been able to give me, I know my mother in law is happy as she really didn't know a lot about her father or his family so this is great, thank you very much
Fire
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Fire do you need or want any information on the JELLETT line?
Cheers
Cando
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That would be fantastic Cando, as my mother in law is interested in learning anything she can about her family history
thanks
fire
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James JELLETT and family arriving in South Australia. There is a diary of the journey on the webpage.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1839Buckinghamshire.htm
and
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
JELLETT James, Catherine nee SEWELL, James, William, Thomas, Caroline, 3 dau [inc Hariett, Luema?], 2 sons [inc Eli?], daughter arrived 21 Mar 1839 on Buckinghamshire from London 11 Dec 1838 via Plymouth.
From the Biographical Index of South Australians - not always 100% accurate and there are errors and omissions, but a good resource.
JELLETT James b. c1790 LND ENG and died 15 Aug 1867 Adelaide SA He is buried in West Terrace Cemetery. He arrived 1939 on the BUCKINGHAMSHIRE. Occupation labourer. He lived at Adelaide, St Marys and Cowandilla.
Married to Catherine who was born 1797 LND END and died 14 May 1855 Adelaide, SA.
Children James [1820-1883], William, Thomas [1822-1876], Caroline FERORS [1824-1902], John Henry [1840-], Mary Ann Cath [1843-]
This is an extracted parish record from
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
Marriage
JELLETT James
SEWELL Catherine
29 Dec 1818 Sidlesham, Sussex, England
and this could be his baptism
JELLETT James
Baptism 29 Jan 1792 Sidlesham, Sussex, England
Father John JELLETT Mother Ann
From BISA
JELLETT James. Parents James and Cath b. 1820 Siddlesome SSX ENG and died 2 Mar 1883. He is buried in West Terrace Cemetery. He arrived in South Australia on the BUCKINGHAMSHIRE Occupation Labourer. He lived in Adelaide and Hindmarsh Island. His religion Church of England.
He married on 10 Dec 1839 at Adelaide, SA Mrs Ann RUSSELL who died 7 July 1884.
Children Thomas [1840-], Ann PACKER [1842-], Elizabeth [c1854-1866].
Looking at the birth indexes. I would say Ann RUSSELL and Ann GORMAN are the same person. There are births not listed in the above entry in BISA. James Philip John [1844-], Frederick [1848-], Alfred [1850-]
Birth
JELLETT James
Baptism 23 Apr 1820 Sidlesham, Sussex, England
Father James JELLETT Mother Catherine
Marriage in Victoria
JELLETT John b. Adelaide
WODAN Mary Ann b. Tasmania
1869 Reg#4720
I cannot find a birth for a Mary Ann WODAN/WADDAM in the Tasmania.
This is this baptism. You would have to see the marriage certificate to find her parents names as names on death certificates can be unreliable at times.
WARHAM Mary
Baptism
Father William Mother Mary Jane.
1 Jan 1936
Registered at Hobart. Reg# 7034/1836
Births to this couple....I am giving you the information again to give you the parents' names as shown on the indexes.
JELLETT Amelia
Father John Mother Mary Ann WADHAM
At Lake 1870 Reg#23974 [This is possibly Lake Bolac]
Death
BALLINGER Amelia
Father James Mother Unknown
At Horsham 1931 Reg#14609
JELLETT Mary Ann
Father James Mother Mary Ann WADHAM
At Lake Bolac 1873 Reg#24858
Death
JELLETT Mary Ann
Father James Philip Mother Mary Ann WADHAM
2 Months Born Lake Bolac 1873 Reg#10017
Burial record
JELLETT, Mary Ann.
Burial 30 Dec 1873
Age - 2 months
Lake Bolac cemetery, Victoria
Source - Lake Bolac cemetery: register of interments [1873-1991ex memorial wall]
Comment - Residence, Lake Bolac
Births in South Australia
JELLETT Elizabeth Ann
12 Apr 1875
Father James Philip John JELLETT Mother Mary Ann WODAM
Birthplace not recorded Gre 129/409
In South Australia
JELLETT Mary Ann
25 Nov 1876
Father James Philip John JELLETT Mother Mary Ann WODAM
Birth place not recorded Gre 175/19
District Gresham in South Australia includes the towns marked with #22
http://www.jaunay.com/places.html
According to the marriage indexes Elizabeth Ann JELLETT was born in Mount Gambier.
Victoria
JELLETT Esther
Father James Philip J Mother Mary Ann WODDEM
At Murtoa 1978 Reg#17845
JELLETT James Philip John
Father James Phillip John Mother Mary Ann WODDEN
At Murtoa 1880 Reg#10547
JELLETT Ethel
Father James Philip John Mother Mary Ann WODDEN
At Murtoa 1883 Reg#25340
JELLETT Ruth
Father James Philip John Mother Mary Ann WODEN
At Nurrabiel 1886 Reg#28485
Deaths
JELLETT John James Philip
Father Jellett James Mother Ann GORMAN
At Ballarat 84 years 1928 Reg#13267
Australian Electoral Roll
Victoria 1914,1919,1924
JELLETT John James Philip, Riverbank, Mildura Labourer
Cheers
Cando
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JELLETT, James Phillip J.
Gazetted 6 Sep 1878
Place - Longerenong, Victoria
Source - Victoria government gazette. Page 2194
Comment - Applications for Licenses Approved
JELLETT, James P J.
Gazetted 24 Jun 1880
Place - Longerenong, Victoria
Source Victoria Government gazette. Page 1630
Comment - Issue of New Licenses
JELLETT, J P J.
Gazetted 3 Feb 1882
Place Longerenong, Victoria
Source Victoria Government gazette. Page 249
Comment - Lessees and Licensees in Arrears
JELLETT, J P J.
Gazetted 31 Jul 1885
Place Nurrabiel
Source Victoria Government gazette. Page 2117
Comment - Lessees and Licensees in Arrears of Rents
Cando
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Hello,
I came across your post on my family named Yensch ( Yansch ) this is the same family, you have mentioned my great grandmother Regina Bessie who married William Butler.
I have tons of info on my family and some photos, graves etc.
I located some lost members resting places as well that was very difficult to find.
There is also a published book on my Yensch family that goes way back through to Germany. I have this book also. If yu want the title let me knw and I will locate my book and give you the title.
Robyn
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Hi Robyn,
That would be fantastic, Any info or photo's that you could give us would be great. I know my mother in law would appriciate it.
Thank you so much
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Fire did you find the JELLETT information useful? As you hadn't responded I wasn't sure whether or not you had read the posts.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Fiona,
Did you get my email ?? I also sent some attachments.
Thanks,
Robyn
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This is the death certificate of Mary Ann Brownlee, wife of John Wilhelm ( Yensch ) , she is buried in Wentworth, separate from her husband who was buried in same cemetery but surname is slightly different variation. He is buried under the name of Yansch and his wife Mary Ann was buried as Yensch...
Mary Ann was born in India to British parents, her father was a soldier there at the time of her birth. Will also add her husbands death certificate.
It says here on her death certificate that she was born in India.
Images Removed: only a small portion of the image may be displayed for help with handwriting
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This is a 1 page extract from the published Yensch family book... These are my family..
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Johann Yansch ( Yensch ) death certificate .....
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The grave of Regina Bessie ( nee Yensch ) & William Butler . Regina was the daughter of Mary Ann. There has been talk that Regina was adopted but so far I havent found any proof of that. Also their marriage certificate ....
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Hello everyone, I am a descendant of Johanna Mary Yansch (Marie Johanna Jansch) born 1866, daughter of John William Henry Yansch and Mary Anne Brownley. Reading the prior posts in the thread regarding the book about the Yansch family and the separate information about Mary Brownley, I was wondering if anyone would be willing to send me copies of the supporting documents regarding Mary Anne's parents or details of where the information was found, as well as the title of the book and maybe where I could obtain a copy. I have also found the arrival of the Yansch family in SA aboard the ship Victoria in 1857, which lists the family as follows:
Johann Carl Jensch Age 44 Occupation Landmann Prior Residence Gross Lisen, Prussia
Anna Dorothea (Nee Schneider) Age 39
Johanna Rosina Age 16
Johan August Gottfried Age 14
Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Age 12
Johanna Auguste Age 9
Carl Friedrich August Age 6
Johanna Dorothea Age 3
Carl August Age 1
Thanks in advance for helping me with this information, and I hope the shipping details may be of use to someone here.
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Hi there,
I am the great grand daughter of Regina Bessie Yensch ( Yansch ) whose parents are Johann Henry Yensch & Mary Ann Brownlee. I see by your post that we share the same great great grandparents. My great grandmother and your great grandmother were sisters.
I have the death certificates of Johann & Mary.
Mary Ann Brownlee was born in India to british parents. Her father was a soldier stationed in India at the time of her birth. Her death cert also lists both her marriages.
There is a few Yensch books, spelling variations of Yansch,Yensch.
The main book on our family , the spelling is actually Yensch.
I have posted a photo of my great grandparents grave which you may have come across.
Am happy to help, send me a pm and I can send you the death cert.
Thanks,
Robyn
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Hi Robyn,
Did you get my PM?
Thanks
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Hello,
I came across your post on my family named Yensch ( Yansch ) this is the same family, you have mentioned my great grandmother Regina Bessie who married William Butler.
I have tons of info on my family and some photos, graves etc.
I located some lost members resting places as well that was very difficult to find.
There is also a published book on my Yensch family that goes way back through to Germany. I have this book also. If yu want the title let me knw and I will locate my book and give you the title.
Robyn
Hello,
I came across your post on my family named Yensch ( Yansch ) this is the same family, you have mentioned my great grandmother Regina Bessie who married William Butler.
I have tons of info on my family and some photos, graves etc.
I located some lost members resting places as well that was very difficult to find.
There is also a published book on my Yensch family that goes way back through to Germany. I have this book also. If yu want the title let me knw and I will locate my book and give you the title.
Robyn
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Welcome to Rootschat, djtoms.
I'm not sure what you were trying to do here, but you have repeated a quote twice and not made a comment.
Rather than hitting the quote button use 'Reply' which is located to the right of the page numbers.
Jamjar
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my name is Jacquilin Dempsey and l am the ggg granddaughter of Mary Anne Brownlee and would appreciate any further information on her such as where was he born and the names of her parents please, Her daughter Johanna Mary Jensch/Yensch/Yeusch is my gg grandmother as she was married to my gg grandfather Samuel Dempsey.
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So sorry for my mistake am just learning how all this is done, anyways as l have said Johanna Mary Jensch was married to my great grandfather Samuel Dempsey born 1860 in Ballymena to John Dempsey and Nancy Workman of Ballymena Antrim. Johanna's mother is Mary Ann Brownlee born in 1839 or 1840 in lndia, and her real fathers name is Johann Henry Jensch born in 1844 Germany and passed away in 1923 South Australia, Australia. Mary Ann Brownlee was married 3 times her first husband Johann Henry Jensch, her second husband John Saveeney and her third husband Johann Heinrich Wilhelm Jensch. l am really looking forward to any more on information on the Jensch family history on where l can get the book from please also lam looking forward to anymore information on Johanna and Samuel as well please and thank you. looking forward to hearing from anyone
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Hi!
Wow! I have just come across all of this information, and I’m in awe of the amount of detail that has already been provided. This has filled so many gaps in my own family history on my mother’s side, but there are still so many questions !
My great grandmother was Regina Bessie Yensch / Butler. I am one of the granddaughters of Myron Butler (Tallangatta). For such a long time, many of my relatives have tried to find history of Regina Bessie, including details of her parents, her birth details and her children. I’ve read through all of the replies in this thread to date, and have enjoyed finding out some of the details we have been missing for such a long time.
Robyn F, I am very much interested in the Yensch family tree book you mentioned - would you mind telling me what it is called, who authored it, and how I can get a copy of it please?
Also Robyn F, most of the attachments you loaded in your replies appear to have been removed, and I’m not able to view them. Would it be possible for you to either add them again, or perhaps email them to me please?
I’m also very interested in the birth record for Regina Bessie - I have seen mention of Regina Bertha - was this her given name at birth (later changed to Regina Bessie?), or is it someone else’s record, or is it an error?
There is mention that Regina Bessie (Yensch) Butler and William Butler had 17 children, and 5 still births, however I have been advised by other sources that they may have in fact had 19 children, and one of those missing from the records was named Roy. Is anyone able to shed any further light on this?
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I have a lot of info on the Yaesnch and Butler family but I’m having trouble researching Mary Ann brown lee’s mother I know her father was Robert BrownLee born in Scotland 1805 but need more. I am one of her 6th great grandchildren. Thanks!
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Can I please have the death certificate I’m her 6th great grandchild. Was she not aboriginal?
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Hi Everyone,
I have loved reading all this information about our past family members.
Im Mary Ann Yansch's (Brownlee) 3rd great granddaughter via Bessie Yansch.
I have recently started my family tree and am wondering if anyone has any more information regarding Mary Ann?
For the life of me, I can not find any birth or migration records for her all I know is that her father is Robert Brownlee.
Would anyone happen to know her mothers name etc or where it was found that she was born in India while her dad was serving for the UK as I can't find any service records fo him, only a Robert Brownlee also born in Scotland 1805 but with no ties to our family names.
Thank you
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Hi I have just registered on this site having come across it when searching for my Great Grandmother. Thrilled to have come across posts from others searching also
My grandfather was Byron (Bars) Butler he was one of Regina and Williams children
My Great Grandparents
Regina was a Yorta Yorta Woman, I am one of many of her proud Yorta Yorta great grand daughters. I would love to hear from others in her kinship
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Hi Lilmaree
I would love to talk with you about our family.
My great grandmother Harriet is Byron's sister.
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Hi I have just registered on this site having come across it when searching for my Great Grandmother. Thrilled to have come across posts from others searching also
My grandfather was Byron (Bars) Butler he was one of Regina and Williams children
My Great Grandparents
Regina was a Yorta Yorta Woman, I am one of many of her proud Yorta Yorta great grand daughters. I would love to hear from others in her kinship
Hi Lilmaree,
I have just discovered that Regina (bessie) was my great great grandmother, her son Myron Butler was my nans (Joan) father. Do you have any information on her being Yorta Yorta, I have always thought that we had aboriginal in our family blood line but never knew it was so close, my grand mother use to deny that we had any indigenous roots, I wonder if she was ashamed of it. she passed in 2018 so I can not ask her. and Wow what a huge family we must have out there.