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Title: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: De grijze on Saturday 10 April 10 17:59 BST (UK)
:) Hi fellows ,
I'm a amateur historian and I'm looking for any information that I can get about a certain James William Douglas Hoey, He was killed in action during the WWII in my native town Kaggevinne (Belgium )
I want to know the exact birth place are the place where his father lived and ... siblings ,
Herebye some information ;
Name ; James William Douglas Hoey (Changing name Douglas William James Hoey )
Birthplace  Saskatchewan  Date ; 22Aug 1921  Killed in action Belgium 25 June 1943,
Fathers  name Hoey John (Jack) Born in Ireland  ( Place ..?)
Mothers Name ; McQueen , Margaret Ann
Birthplace ; Saskatchewan (Canada)
I want to know for example ; Has J.W.D.Hoey brothers are sisters ,?
What was the exact birthplace of his father ?
When and where was he emigrated ?
Has his father brothers and sisters in ireland and .. siblings ,
Any Little piece of information is more than welcome ,
Thanks in advance
Luc
Title: Re: World War II research
Post by: Arranroots on Saturday 10 April 10 18:25 BST (UK)
Hi Luc

I've moved your thread from the Resources board - you have a lot of territory here, so it was hard to know where to place it!

It seems to me that you might be best looking for the emigration record first (have you done that?)  Did the whole family emigrate, or just Douglas?

I will leave you to the experts ...

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Title: Re: World War II research
Post by: De grijze on Saturday 10 April 10 18:42 BST (UK)
Hi there, you're maybe right , there is a lot of territory ..

First I want to know the exact birthplace of his father (John are Jack Hoey )

 :-\
In the meantime I'm looking for the emigration ,

Regards
Luc
Title: Re: World War II research
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 10 April 10 18:46 BST (UK)
with a relatively common surname and no date or place of birth it's going to be very difficult to start searching for birth of a John/Jack Hoey in Ireland. Maybe the place to start would be Canadian records (census/marriage details etc) to establish his year of birth, and possible place of origin ?



Shane
Title: Re: World War II research
Post by: De grijze on Saturday 10 April 10 19:08 BST (UK)
:) Hi Shane , you're right ,
 I thought that Hoey was rather an unusual name n , (I got J.W.D Hoey 's death cert from Canada)
I have first to search on the Canadian site ,than I' ll get back
Kind regards
Luc
Title: Re: World War II research
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 10 April 10 19:12 BST (UK)
Hoey is a very common Irish surname so you will need more information to find any family connections in Ireland. Searching for 'John Hoey' in civil index (births, deaths, marriages) in Ireland reveals 604 records and checking 1911 census for the same name shows 120 in Ireland at that time (of course it is possible that JWD's father had left Ireland before 1911).
Title: Re: World War II research - Hoey
Post by: HugoBeauchamp on Sunday 11 April 10 14:34 BST (UK)
Luc

The Canadian Census site for 1911 doesn't appear to have any Hoey's or McQueen's that might be of interest, I may be wrong. It might be worth having a look at it on
http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html
there are links to other sites that might be of use.

The CWGC site at
http://www.cwgc.org/
shows that he was the "Son of John and Margaret Hoey, of Kelso, Saskatchewan, Canada"
Might it be worth trying to see if any of the Hoey's listed in the in Saskatchewan, Phone Book might be able to help?

Just after I posted this msg I had a look on Cyndi's List under Canada, then Saskatchewan and landed on the
Saskatchewan Genealogy Society's site where it looks as if the parents of James William are shown
http://saskgenealogy.com/databases/burialindex/nm_BurialSearch.aspx

Perhaps an email to them asking for further details, at least age at death for John/Jack would help in finding an approximate year of birth for him, it may also show that he was a native of ?? in Ireland. The same applies for Margaret A.

Best of luck

H
Title: Re: World War II research
Post by: De grijze on Sunday 11 April 10 18:11 BST (UK)
:) Hi  fellows ,
                        thank you for the useful Web sites and for replying to my appeal, !
I can now see what further but it's difficult , As you can see , there is a lot of territory ,,

Many thanks again !
Kind regards
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 14 April 10 12:24 BST (UK)
1939/40 ballyshannon electors list Hoey living around Ballyshannon, County Donegal.
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: ahleeds on Wednesday 18 August 10 07:29 BST (UK)
 I believe I was talking to James hoey's brother yesterday ,he told me he was shot down over belgium in a Lancaster bomber. This brother lives in Moosomin Saskatchewan , I can get you contact info if needed.

  later
    Anthony
 
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: De grijze on Wednesday 18 August 10 17:21 BST (UK)
:) Hi Anthony,
                        it would be nice if you could bring me in touch with J.W.D. Hoey's brother!
( Killed in action 24/25/June 1943 in Kaggevinne near Diest /Belgium )
He should  have  already a respectable age.
I just hope that it is  his brother, because he didn't fly with a Lancaster but with a Short Sterling.
These aircraft matches is very similar to each other,
I looking forward to it!
Many thanks in advance
Luc
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 19 August 10 10:32 BST (UK)
I have a photo of Hoey Family from Ballyshannon must have moved to Lancashire, England then on to Australia or Canada.  Before they left England brought lots of photos to the house for my late mother to see, the photo ended up on the Ballyshannon site.  I took a copy of it before the site closed down when the scanner is free I will copy the photo then send you a private message to e-mail me.

I think the mother and father are William and Lizzie. children Bobby, Willie, James, Paddy, Dick, Angela, Rita, Pat, Tess, Kath, Anne, Frankie, Brendan
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 19 August 10 11:01 BST (UK)
have a look on the Cyndi site Hoey Mention
http://www.cyndislist.com/census-canada.htm#1911
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: De grijze on Thursday 19 August 10 17:35 BST (UK)
:) Hi Rathmore, thank you for the information and I'm very  curious   to see the pictures ,

 However, I’m afraid  that we don’t talk about  the same person.

 J.WD. Hoey's parents were John (Jack)  Hoey and his mother was Mac Queen Margaret Ann

I sent you a PM with the death certificate .

Thanks in advance
Luc
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: De grijze on Thursday 19 August 10 17:43 BST (UK)
Hi Fellows   .... Here is the death certificate ,
Greetz
Luc

Information removed- only a small portion of death certificate may be posted for deciphering purposes
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: ahleeds on Friday 17 September 10 04:33 BST (UK)
hi im back
 I talked to Bud hoey again yesterday and he will gladly talk to you if you email me at  (*)
 i will email you his phone number and address .
   I couldnt figure out the messaging on this forum so i just posted this.
later  Anthony

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Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: Karamazov on Monday 28 February 11 11:36 GMT (UK)
I have a photo of Hoey Family from Ballyshannon must have moved to Lancashire, England then on to Australia or Canada.  Before they left England brought lots of photos to the house for my late mother to see, the photo ended up on the Ballyshannon site.  I took a copy of it before the site closed down when the scanner is free I will copy the photo then send you a private message to e-mail me.

I think the mother and father are William and Lizzie. children Bobby, Willie, James, Paddy, Dick, Angela, Rita, Pat, Tess, Kath, Anne, Frankie, Brendan


Hello Rathmore,
I stumbled across this message via a Google search - you are mentioning my grandparents and father (Bobby).  I know the photo you are referring to and would be grateful if you could email me privately to discuss further.

Regards.
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: Karamazov on Monday 01 August 11 23:59 BST (UK)
I have a photo of Hoey Family from Ballyshannon must have moved to Lancashire, England then on to Australia or Canada.  Before they left England brought lots of photos to the house for my late mother to see, the photo ended up on the Ballyshannon site.  I took a copy of it before the site closed down when the scanner is free I will copy the photo then send you a private message to e-mail me.

I think the mother and father are William and Lizzie. children Bobby, Willie, James, Paddy, Dick, Angela, Rita, Pat, Tess, Kath, Anne, Frankie, Brendan

The Hoey family mentioned above include my grandparents, father and assorted uncles and aunts. You're right with all the names you mention.  Some of William and Lizzie's childen emigrated to England and some to USA but none  to Australia.  I grew up with a copy of this family photo in our living room ....
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: De grijze on Wednesday 03 August 11 17:19 BST (UK)
 :)Hi Karamazov , I 'll send you a PM

Cheers
Luc
Title: Re: World War II research - HOEY
Post by: EGB101 on Wednesday 12 September 18 21:37 BST (UK)
I have a photo of Hoey Family from Ballyshannon must have moved to Lancashire, England then on to Australia or Canada.  Before they left England brought lots of photos to the house for my late mother to see, the photo ended up on the Ballyshannon site.  I took a copy of it before the site closed down when the scanner is free I will copy the photo then send you a private message to e-mail me.

I think the mother and father are William and Lizzie. children Bobby, Willie, James, Paddy, Dick, Angela, Rita, Pat, Tess, Kath, Anne, Frankie, Brendan

Hi Rathmore. The James you mention above was my Grandfather. I'd be grateful if you could send the photo to me please? Thanks in advance.