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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Argyllshire => Topic started by: Cayley on Thursday 15 April 10 04:55 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find more information on relations
Ronald Walker from Tarbert
maried Mary McPhall Jan. 20, 1810 Kilberry, Kilcalnomell
Children:
Neil Walker Apr. 20, 1815
Katherine Walker Apr. 29, 1821
Ronald Walker Oct. 24, 1827
Margaret Walker 1834
Neil Walker Apr. 20, 1815--fisherman--boat Janet. Neil & his family emigrated to Canada
married Janet McArthur on Dec. 2, 1843--United Parish of Saddell & Skipness
Children:
Mary Walker Nov. 17, 1846
Neil Ronald Feb. 12, 1848
Duncan Walker Feb. 12, 1850
Catherine Walker Jun. 7, 1852
Mary Walker May 26, 1853
Margaret Walker Mar 14, 1855
Peter Walker Mar. 27, 1857
Janet McArthur's parents
Neil McArthur
married Mary Campbell DOB: Jul. 10, 1796 Kilmarich, Lochgoilhead
Children:
Donald McArthur Oct. 23, 1816
Janet McArthur Nov. 6, 1818
If anyone has information it would be greatly appreciated.
Cayley
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hi,
I am a descendent of a Peter McArthur b. 1809 in skipness,argyll who came to Canada @ 1824. He received a letter in 1895 from a cousin Peter McArthur saying that his sister had married a Neil Walker and had a small farm near Tarbert.
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Hi
I think the Peter McArthur who wrote the letter sounds like the same Peter who was the brother of my great-great grandmother Christina McArthur. I have on my records that he was born (or maybe baptised) on 26.2.1808 and he lived on a farm in Skipness near Tarbert, called Brulain. The reason I think it must be him is that I know John Walker (Christina's husband) had a brother Neil who married a Janet McArthur, and yes they had a farm in Tarbert before emigrating to Ontario in 1874.
Do you think this is the same man? It would mean Janet was another sibling of Peter and Christina. Although I had not made that link it does not seem unlikely?
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Yes, I believe Christine and Peter (letter writer), and Janet
are children of Duncan and Magaret ( McVannel) . I will try to find more material on Walkers in Canada.
I presume Duncan and my gGGrandfather Archibald McArthur are brothers.
Janet McArthur Sterling, Ottawa, Canada.
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Yes it is a connection, my great grandfather was the Neil Walker he married Janet, they had about 30 acres on the hill over looking Tarbert. They moved to Crinan, Ontario with their children, my grandfather was Peter Walker.
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Hi All,
In Cayley's original posting the parents of Janet McArthur married to Neil Walker, are listed as Neil McArthur married to Mary Campbell DOB: Jul. 10, 1796 Kilmarich, Lochgoilhead.
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The " other Janet" , daughter of Duncan McArthur & Margaret McVannel & sibling of Peter & Christin
IGI Batch#C115312
Janat 27Sep1817 Duncan McArthur & Margarat McVannal
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Is there an error in the parentage of Cayley's Janet or was Janet, dau. of Duncan & Margaret, not
the one who married Neil Walker?
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Hi all
I think this surely has to be a mistake - the letter from Peter McArthur (now thought to be dated 1873) says that "sister Jannett is married to Neil Walker and has a small farm (?????)" in the last line of the 1st page. From other things (census entries & death certificate) Peter's parents are named as Duncan McArthur & Margaret McVannel, so these must also be Jannet's parents.
Anne
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I agree with Anne.
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Hi all,
Yes when I started researching my great grandmother Janet McArthur I thought her parents were Neil McArthur & Mary Campbell. Dad had said we were the Campbell clan and I was sure I had the right lady. But with further research & info/help from another Walker cousin realized I had the wrong Janet McArthur, my Janet was born in Skipness not Lochgilhead.
Thanks to Anne & Janet I have been able to put together a lot more of the family, which includes all the McVannel people that I knew were related but could not find out how. I have the book "the history of the McVannel clan" the family of Duncan McVannel & Jean McArthur. I believe Duncan 1774-1837-is a brother to my gr gr grandmother Margaret (Peggy) McVannel 1776-1864.
Cayley
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Hi Cayley & all,
Does anyone know the outcome of the McVannel's 1848 "Potato Fight"????
Reference Title Date
SC50 Campbeltown Sheriff Court 1776-1979
SC50/5 Processes - preservation, 1st series 1830-1975
Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Archives of Scotland
Reference SC50/5/1848/20
Title Alexander MacKeich, dealer, residing at Dalnacarnan v John MacVannell, Peter MacVannell, and Archibald MacVannell, all farmers in Lemnamuick
Dates 1848
Access status Open
Location Off site
Description: Petition for delivery and for damages: relates to sale of 50 Kintyre bolls of potatoes and the doubling of the price of potatoes.
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I've been looking at what may a questionable land deal between Peter Mc Vannel & his (black sheep) 1st cousin, John McArthur in Ekfrid Twp. Ontario in March 1881.
John seemed to be a poster boy for bad behavior & I've been wondering if Peter was an innocent bystander or a shifty accomplice in some sort of deal.
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I'm a Walker and some of my descendants were the McVannels. I'm a descendant of Robert Walker and Margaret Watson. Margaret's mother was Mary McVannel, and her father was William Watson.
I came across an interesting fact today. One Duncan McVannel was killed in Ontario:
PICKARD, Cyrus
Male, age 20
Crime: Murder
Victim: McVannell, Duncan
Trial: 1871/09/19
Assizes; London, Ont.
Judge: Gwynne
Execution fixed to: 1871/12/28
Recommendation for mercy: yes
Result: O. in C. of 1871/11/23, PC 1542
Hanging: 1871/12/28; Middlesex Gaol, London, Ont.
Reference: RG 13, vol. 1408, file 40A; 1871
Content: Correspondence, petitions, order-in-council,
transcript of evidence, coroner's inquest.
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Hi ZerooreZ,
I was aware of this murder. The recipient of the bullet shot by Pickard was
Duncan McV. born abt 1839, son of Duncan McV. b.1793 & Mary Dawson. He emigrated with his parents 1848 and settled in Blanshard Twp.Perth Co.
Duncan Jr. (1839) m. Jane McCulloch 1867
The following are in section 'A' of the St.Marys Cemetery:
Row 15, # 2 Duncan McVannell died April 21, 1871 age 33, erected by his wife Jane McVannell (no mention that Jane is buried here)
Row 1, # 2 Kate E. Bartlett 1872 - 1956 w/o Duncan McVannell
Also buried in this cemetery without a gravestone is this entry: Duncan McVannell died 1880 age 87
It's as difficult following the McVannells as the McArthurs what with the use of only a half dozen given names
Ian
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ZerooreZ,
I just looked at my file and have only Agnes, Jean, William & Mary as children of Margaret McV. & Wm. Watson. Where does Margaret fit in the family?
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I think we're talking about different branches.
The Margaret that I mentioned was the daughter of Mary (not Margaret) McVannel and William Watson.
Mary McVannel (1801-1876) and William Watson's (1783-1866) children were:
Jane, Mary, Janet, Agnes, Margaret, Martha, Christena, William, Duncan, James, and John.
I know what you mean about the lack of names...