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Title: Question re Sands directories NSW COMPLETED
Post by: kaths2010 on Thursday 15 April 10 21:33 BST (UK)
Could you please advise what information is needed to look up the Sands directories from 1880 through to around 1930. ( Separate lines not the same person)

Can you search for a name if you just have an address?
Can you search for an address if you just have a name?

Thanks
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: troods on Thursday 15 April 10 21:53 BST (UK)
Hi

I just generally search via name - do u need a lookup done if so just post whom u r looking for.

Troods

Edit - this is where  I search from :

http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=1164
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Thursday 15 April 10 23:16 BST (UK)
The names I have are Kezia(h) Clark or Lockett and William Clark and the address was 2 Jenkins St Millers Point ( The Rocks area, Sydney) in 1879.
Thank you
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: troods on Friday 16 April 10 00:50 BST (UK)
Found the following William  with a keyword search of Millers - not sure if he is yours

1868
Clark Wm (Dunlop & Clark), Victoria Terrace, Miller's Point

ring any bells?

Troods
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Friday 16 April 10 00:55 BST (UK)
No, I don't think so. Dunlop and Clarke was a biggish business back in the day I think. My William was a seaman/sailor and Victoria Terrace is quite a way off.
THank you though.
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 02:19 BST (UK)
The names I have are Kezia(h) Clark or Lockett and William Clark and the address was 2 Jenkins St Millers Point ( The Rocks area, Sydney) in 1879.
Thank you

2 Jenkins St in 1880 was a brick and stone house with shingled roof, 2 floors, 3 rooms.  The owner/landlord was William Jacques who also owned No. 4 and No. 6 Jenkins St.  In 1880 the occupier was John Crowley. John Crowley was also there back in 1877.  In 1877 there's a William A Clark at 39 Clarence St  ;)

In 1880 there was a William Clark as the occupier at 3 Cumberland Street, this was a brick & stone house, with a shingled roof, 1 floor and 4 rooms.  The building's agent was T B Dearin.

2 Jenkins St in 1891 was occupied by a C Searson, and the owner/landlord was T Hennessy.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/07nx/


Cheers,  JM

EDIT TO ADD By 1903 the lass born in 1879 was old enough to enrol to vote  ;)
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: troods on Friday 16 April 10 02:31 BST (UK)
Great link JM will have to put that one of my favourites

Troods
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Friday 16 April 10 02:32 BST (UK)
hmm interesting. Possible, given the three houses in a row were owned by the same person that they were let out as required.
The only information I have is that this is where Keziah Clark was born in 1879. Witnesses are Mrs Clark and Mrs Williamson - probably the midwife. The father's name is given as William Clark.

Is there any way of looking up if a Keziah and William Clark were in the same residence at any time e.g the ones at Cumberland and Clarence streets?
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 02:33 BST (UK)
Hi Kaths2010

Do you have Keziah Clark's address as at around say 1903 ?  If she was in NSW she may well be on the electoral roll, I have access to the 1903 roll, but not keyword searchable, so if you have general idea of the district for her I will try to find further info.


Hi troods, its on the RChat NSW Resources Board, and there's so many favourites of mine there  ;)

Cheers,  JM

edit to add by 1903 Keziah Clark's daughter was also old enough to enrol to vote  ;)
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Friday 16 April 10 02:42 BST (UK)
Oh, yes by then she was in the new relationship and had another 8 kids.  The missing years are between the time that the daughter was born and her next child with a different father.  This is the summary:

Missing years 1867 to 1879 questions:  Where did she live? What happened to William?

There are no records of births or deaths using any of the name combinations even wildcards with initital. A big mystery.
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 02:45 BST (UK)
On the 1867 birth cert, what are her parents names please,  ... perhaps they moved to NSW ... I have 1878 electoral rolls for NSW  ;) but only males enrolled and it was not compulsory

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Friday 16 April 10 02:49 BST (UK)
Have gone down that route on BDMS with no success but they are
William Locket b abt 1823 Oxford England and Mary Ann (formerly Leman late Brown) born abt 1825 England(maybe). There were 2 other siblings Charles b abt 1862 and Emma b abt 1865. Parents were supposed to have married in Melbourne in Jan 1861. No records Victorian or NSW BDM for any of the Lockett family including marriages, births and deaths.

Nothing like a challenge!! ;)
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 02:52 BST (UK)
1878 Electoral Roll has
John Crowley listed at Jenkins St, a householder
William Clarke (with "e") at 250 Kent St
Cannot find any Lockett (or variations) registered for that electorate (West Sydney) that included the Gipps Ward

JM
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 02:57 BST (UK)
Re 1879 birth
Do you have full transcript for that birth ?  Please post the info, perhaps there's clues, I have transcripts for same era in and around the Gipps ward, and the info is quite detailed, including details of parents, and also the informants details. 

I like a challenge  ;)

Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Friday 16 April 10 03:09 BST (UK)
I have a full transcript - I'm happy to email it to you so wil send you a PM for address.
Kath
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 03:17 BST (UK)
Sands 1873 LOCKETT, George Ridgeway, a grocer at Cooper St (Sydney); possibly this would be him  11866/1915 death registered at Kiama

1903 E Roll
George William LOCKET (one T), carter Terralong St Kiama
George Ridgeway LOCKETT, a bottler at Kiama
George Ridgeway LOCKETT, Terralong St Kiama, cordial maker  (possibly a brother to Keziah !)

Also on same roll:
Emily, Susan, Sarah ALL surnamed LOCKETT, all at Terralong St, all at domestic duties.  ;)

Cheers,  JM


Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Friday 16 April 10 03:27 BST (UK)
No George on my lists?

The older Kezia's birth certificate contains only the following information
16 October 1867 Berwick Victoria
Name Keziah Lockett
Father William Lockett, Labourer aged 44, born Oxford England (Est DOB 1823)
Married January 1861 Melbourne Victoria
Other children Charles 5 (therefore DOB est 1862) and Emma 2 ( Est DOB 1865)
Mother Mary Ann, formerly Leman(or Lerman) late Brown 43 born France England??
Informanat Mary Ann - illiterate

Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: majm on Friday 16 April 10 03:37 BST (UK)
Re William CLARK  ;) Deceased Estates index at the NSW State Records  ;)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/08gs/

NSW BDM
13608/1906  William Clark son of William and Catherine at NEWTOWN
7423/1901  William H Clark, son of Charles L and Lily F at WATERLOO
several for 1892  ;)

Re Charles LOCKETT
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08gt/

State Records keyword searchable Index : http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/keyname_search.asp

 ;)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW
Post by: kaths2010 on Saturday 17 April 10 01:26 BST (UK)
Thanks.

It's such a common name and with nothing clear about his DOD it would just be way to expensive to go down the BDM route unless I pay a researcher... which I might still do as it's cheaper than ordering certificates or transcripts.
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW CoMPLETED
Post by: kaths2010 on Monday 19 April 10 09:55 BST (UK)
Search for this address is finalised.
Title: Re: Question re Sands directories NSW COMPLETED
Post by: odettekelly on Sunday 23 September 18 22:23 BST (UK)
Hi Kath,
It's  a long shot tha t you might get this message but worth a shot! William Lockett and Mary Ann Leeman ar e my 3 x great grandparents. Keziah Maul was my grandmother. Would love to exchange information.
All the best.
Odette