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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Pantaloon on Monday 19 April 10 13:42 BST (UK)
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I am interested in Wyatts living in Fordingbridge from 1700 to 1899. Any mentions gratefull received.
Thanks
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welcome to rootschat pantaloon
there are 40 entries for the surname wyatt living in fordingbridge in 1871 census so to many to put down here. probably the same in earlier and later censuses
so really need a bit more info i.e. first names birthdates occupations etc
mick
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Thanks Wossle,
Especially interested in John Wyatt 1833 and his siblings
Thanks
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this is the only one i can see on the 1841 census
1841
HO107/397/10/11/16
edward wyatt age 40. occ. weaver
william wyatt age 14. occ. weaver
charles wyatt age 15 or 12. occ. labourer.
john wyatt age 9
grace wyatt age 36
mary ann wyatt age 15
elizabeth wyatt age 11
louisa wyatt age 4
anna wyatt age 2
living at;fordingbridge,hampshire
all born in county
this is as they appear in the actual 1841 census image
will see if i can find them in 1851 census
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1851
HO107/1667/53119
edward wyatt age 54. b. fordingbridge. occ. hand loom weaver. head(wid)
charles age 21. b. ditto. occ. agr. lab. son(unm)
elizabeth age 19. b. ditto. daughter
john age 17. b. ditto. occ. factory man weaver. son
louisa age 14. b. ditto. occ. servant. daughter
hannah age 12. b. ditto. daughter
sarah wyatt age 71. b. eastbourne. mother (pauper formerly laundress)
living at;fordingbridge,hampshire
reg.dist; christchurch
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if you think this might be your john then i will try and follow the family through the censuses
and will try and see if i can find out who his mother was
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Thanks Wozzle,
Can I please get back to you tomorrow Mick?
I have quite an extensive list of the Wyatts and am interested in communicating with someone who has more specific knowledge than mine. My research shows that John Wyatt (1833) - whom I believe to be my G.G.Grandfather had father Edward and mother Grace. Let me go through what I already know - I don't want to put you to any trouble.
Best wishes
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okay
mick
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Hi Mick,
My records tally with what you have told me + Edward Wyatt (17970 married a Grace Smith on 20/08/1820. As well as the 7 mentioned childred, they also also had a daughter Lousia who died aged 1 year in 1825 ( another daughter also named Lousia was born circa 1837). Edwards father - also Edward (1766) married a Sarah Brumble - from Eastborne in 1789.
My John Wyatt married a Mary Pink (1831 Fordingbridge) and had children all in F/Bridge
George - 1854
Sarah - 1857
Alfred - 1859 (G.Grandfather)
Louisa- 1861
Mary - 1862
Eliza - 1864
John - 1868
James-1870
Apart fron Alfred, I know nothing of John's children at all. I have some postcards addressed to Reginald Harry Wyatt ( Grandfather 1889 and 3rd son of Alfred) from relatives still in Fordingbridge in 1910 - but are almost illigible.
If possible it is these people who I would like to disciover any information.
Sory for long message.
Best wishes
Michael
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o.k will see if i can find out anything on the children apart from alfred
p.s. do you have the children on any censuses. if you do which censuses do you have
if not then i will try and follow each child through the censuses and bmd's(fingers crossed)
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afraid that I don't.
The 1861 census shows John's family living at "209 Barton" Fordingbridge
the 1871 census shows them at "266 The Bartons" - I think The Bartons still exists - but probabaly only in a modern form by now.
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by your reply you obviously have the family in 1861,1871 already
will post these censuses here to help me in case i need to look at them for reference
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1861
RG9/669/21/36
john wyatt age 28. b. fordingbridge. occ. canvas weaver. head
mary.a. age 29. b. ditto. wife
george age 7. b. ditto. son
sarah.g. age 4. b. ditto. daughter
alfred age 2. b. ditto. son
edward wyatt age 63. b. ditto. occ. canvas weaver. father(wid)
living at;fordingbridge,hampshire
reg.dist; fordingbridge
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1871
RG10/1182/72/9
johnn wyatt age 38. b. fordingbridge. head(no occupation given)
mary.a. age 40. b. ditto. occ. weaver. wife
george age 17. b. ditto. occ. groom. son
alfred age 12. b. ditto. son
louisa age 10. b. ditto, daughter
mary.a. age 9. b. ditto. daughter
eliza age 7. b. ditto. daughter
john age 3. b. ditto. son
james age 11mnths. b. ditto. son
george dager or dyer age 57. b. ditto. occ. sweep. lodger(unm)
living at;the barton,fordingbridge,hampshire
so on this census sarah aged 4 in 1861 is missing
will see if i can find her
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Pantaloon,
The number before Barton is the schedule number, not the number of the house. The Bartons in Fordingbridge is a modern name (as you suspected) for a road on the site of an old house called the Bartons. I'm not sure when it was redevoloped, but the house is marked on the old maps in the 1880s and 90s.
Nell
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cannot find sarah after 1861
will follow george
there are 2 george wyatts born in fordingbridge in 1854
there is a death in 1862 in fordingbridge of a george wyatt this is possibly one of the 2 born 1854
the other one is obviously yours
cannot find a george wyatt born 1854 on the 1881
there is however this one who quiet probably is yours
1881
RG11/2072/72/9
george wyatt age 29. b. fordingbridge. occ. omnibus driver. head
mary age 28. b. corton,wilts. wife
frederick age 5. b. salisbury. son
ellen age 1. b. ditto. daughter
living at; 32,trinity street,salisbury,wilts
reg.dist; alderbury
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ancestry seems to be playing up again
is anyone else having problems with ancestry?
will come back on later
mick
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1881 RG11/1200/24/40
Barn Cottages Fordingbridge
John Wyatt 44 widower works at canvas factory
Eliza 16 workers at canvas factory
John 14 scholar
James 12
Frederick 5
Elizabeth Noyce 77 mother-in-law born Breamore Hampshire
Louisa and Mary A have left home
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John Thomas Edward and James are very common names for all the branches of Wyatt and this is why I cant get mine back from Appleby Magna in Leicestershire. All seem to be related somewhere to the WYATT's that had Allington castle
Rob
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This looks like your John in 1851
HO107/1667/531/19
Red face - already have it.
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Comparing the 1841 and 1851 censuses
Anna (1841) is Hannah (1851)
Grace is Edward's wife? 1841 Edward a widow 1851
Death, Grace Wyatt March 1/4 1848 Fordingbridge Vol 8 page _ 54
Marriage for John Wyatt and Mary Ann Noyce Fordingbridge Dec 1/4 1853
vol 2b page 920
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I have John Wyatt - 1833 married to Mary Pink third quarter of 1854
There seam to be more Wyatts in Fordingbridge than rabbits!
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1881 RG11/1200/24/40
Barn Cottages Fordingbridge
John Wyatt 44 widow works at canvas factory
Eliza 16 workers at canvas factory
John 14 scholar
James 12
Frederick 5
Elizabeth Noyce 77 mother-in-law born Breamore Hampshire
Louisa and Mary A have left home
So this can't be your John and Mary in 1881 because of Elizabeth Noyce m-in-law?
Is your Mary Pink just plain Mary or a Mary Ann? I ask because on the censuses this John's wife is always Mary A.
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OK I answered my own question Mary A Pink. This couple married in Winchester whereas the couple we have been following through the censuses were married in the Fordingbridge registration district.
Do you have the marriage certificate? Is Edward John's father?
I am leaning towards Mary A being Mary A Noyce as the names of the children all add up.
I have been through all the censuses 1841 - 1881 and the John we have been following is the only born in Fordingham 1833 + or - 1.
I'll see if I can pick up on John and Mary Pink in 1861.
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1861 RG9/69/106/29
33 Saint James Street, saint Thomas
Winchester
John Wyatt age 29 Boilermaker born Thurlebear Somerset
Mary A born Compton Hants.
Can't find them in 1871 yet
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1871 RG10/1210/70/38
Brooke St Upper, St Mary Kalender Winchester
John 40 Boilermaker born Thurlebeare Somerset
Mary A 38 born Compton Hants
Still no children with them.
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I agree that John did marry Mary Ann Noyce in 1853 because, as you say, the children look right further on. This also makes sense as the eldest son George was born in 1854. The marriage in Fordingbridge also looks right as the family did not seem to move around much as John was a weaver - (river) Yes his father was Edward and mother Grace (nee Smith)
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Hi Pantaloon
You really need some certificates to verify our findings especially your g grandfather Alfred's. This will give his mother's maiden name.
Now the only birth of an Alfred Wyatt in Fordingbridge is June 1/4 1858 (not 1859) vol 2b page 502.
There is a Harry Alfred June 1/4 1859 in Fordingbridge but he is with his parents James and Eliza in 1861 so the 1858 birth is yours.
I have found all the births of the other children on FreBMD except for James, the youngest.
I will post my findings later - got to do my housewife act :)
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Hi Crisane,
Thanks for comments - you are of course correct - and I now have the birth certificate for Alfred. Born 17th May 1858 to parents John Wyatt and Mary Ann Noyse.
I often think that some of the dates on the census's are a bit 'iffy.
Interesting re Harry Alfred - born 03/06/1859 - I have his certificate as well (because I ordered it incorrectly a few years ago) and it shows his parents as Charles Wyatt and another Mary Ann - this time Cutler. I think that Charles was the elder brother of John and born in 1830. I have tracked him to Hungerford in 1871 with a wife and 5 children but 1881 shows him in prison in Winchester (no idea why) and his younest daughters in the Union workhouse at Fordingbridge.
Best Wishes
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Hi
So pleased the certificate verified the correct family. Would have been terrible to go off on the wrong branch.
I have been caught up with things other than genealogy and have lost track of the thread but because you have the cert for Harry Alfred showing parents as Charles and Mary Ann Cutler then ignore what I said! A good example of why we need certificates. :D
If there is something else you need just refresh my memory.
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My husband is connected to the Fordingbridge Wyatts. His link (I think without checking) that his grandfather was Alfred/Albert and he emigrated to Australia in the 18??.
I will check tonight and provide more information if you are interested.
Cheers
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Hi There,
Yes please - I would be interested to know more - there seem to be four different sections of Wyatts around Fordingbridge and the links between them can be quite difficult to tease out.
Thanks
Mike
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Thanks Mike.
Charles' (m Mary Ann Cutler) father was James Wyatt (m Martha Viney).
James and Martha had Elizabeth b1821; George b 1824; James b.1836; Charles b1829; William b1832; and Henry b1834.
We have info on most of their offspring also. Please let me know if it is useful.
Cheers
Helen
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Hi Helen,
I have Charles Wyatt( 1830 )Married Mary Ann Cuttler(1826)
Children:-
Francis 1855
Harry 1859
Ann 1862
Hannah 1864
Harriet 1867
Martha 1871
Charles father was Edward (1897 and Grace (Smith) - 1805
I have the birth certificate of Harry - who went on to be in service in a London house.
My information on Wyatt's is large (but not extensive) - I am happy to compare notes,
Best wishes
Mike
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Hi Mike
Francis was my husband's grandfather. He came to Australia in 1876.
Mary Ann Cutler was born in Ibsley.
Some of the children were born in Hyde, although Francis was born in Fordingbridge.
Have you (or anyone else ) come across a connection between the Wyatt's and the Goodyear's (the tyre family) around the period 1914-1923?
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Hi Helen,
My Charles (1830) had a brother James (1833) who was my GGGrandfather
I have no further knowledge of Francis although he was still in the family home in 1861
The 1861 census shows 2 children - Charles and Ellen but they have vanished in the 1871 census and the other children are there.
I have not had chance to follow that side of the familyyet - I did make a start on Harry who went in to service in one of the large houses in London but returned to live and marry in Wiltshire
Best wishes,
Mike
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I can answer your query on what happened to Francis Albert Wyatt, b. 16 Jan 1857 at Fordingbridge to Charles Wyatt and Mary Ann Cutler.
Francis was my G.G. Grandfather and emigrated to Australia as a 20 year old, arriving in Adelaide, South Australia, on 1 Feb 1877 aboard ship "Lochee".
Francis married Adelaide Cooke, before moving to Victoria, becoming a farmer in the Wimmera and Mallee region of Victoria. Francis died on 22 December 1907, wife Adelaide passing away in 1954 at the age of 94. They had six children, including my Grandfather Arthur James Wyatt b. 1888 at Mount Pleasant, South Australia.
G.G. Grandchildren of Francis Albert still farm the same land to this day.
Regards,
Ken
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Hello Ken
Francis Albert was my husband's grandfather so it appears that you are 2nd cousins.
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Hi i have a wyatt family tree that was compiled in 1989 by my late sister,whilst i cannot personally confirm its accuracy i know that the information was collected over many years and backed up with certificates etc.
It consists of about 300 names and i am related to a lot of fordingbridge wyatts.
I have
james no dob married to christian Bartlett
children
Jacob 1794 fordingbridge m Mary
James 1799 fordingbridge m Martha viney
James and Martha,s children
Elizabeth 1821 m amprey kenchington
George 1824 m Sarah Jefferies
James 1826 m Eliza etheridge
Charles 1829 m Mary Ann cutler
William 1832 m Emily macey
Henry 1834
Charles and Mary Ann,s children
Ellen 1853
Charles 1855
Francis 1857
harry 1860
Ann 1862
Hannah 1864
Harriet 1867 Martha 1871
I am a descendant of George 1824 m Sarah jefferies.
If i can be of assistance to anyone here just shout
Ken Wyatt
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Hello Cahami - I was very excited to read your post from last september about the Fordingbridge Wyatts. The William you list born in 1832 and who
married Emily Macey in 1851 is my GG Grandfather. We must be distant cousins! How exciting !I would love to see your family tree.
Jackie
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Hi jackie, you are more than welcome to have a copy of it i just need to find out where i can get it copied its quite large 30"x12". i will make enquiries
and gladly send a copy to you. I have thought about trying to scan it but i do not think it will do it justice. ps there is a jacky on it (spelt wrong?) with siblings b,n,m I'm guessing this could be you?
all the best Ken
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Wow Ken - that is fantastic. Thank you so much - I shall look forward to that with great excitement. Let me know what your costs are as I will gladly reimburse you. How do I give you my address without the whole world seeing it on this forum? Or email address? If we can exchange email addresses I can email you my Wyatt Tree which is in a word doc. format.
Oh yes - no I am not the Jacky you have - I am Jacqueline on all trees and my children are l and c.
My grand father was William Albert Wyatt b. 1900, my mother Hazel.
Can't wait to see your tree!
Kind regards
Jackie
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whoops - also meant to say my only sibling is J.
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My OH has a Wyatt from that area, six generations back.
Deborah Wyatt, d.of John and Elizabeth was baptised in 1771 in Ibsley (on the Fordinbridge to Ringwood road).
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Hello Readydale
Do you know anymore about her - her siblings for instance? So far I have gone back to my GGGG Grandfather James Wyatt who married Christian Bartlett June 1794.
Jackie