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Title: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: plimmerian on Thursday 22 April 10 13:41 BST (UK)

In 1911 (STAIT transcribed as START)  Annie STAIT (wife) is listed as a lodging house manageress, with her family and 11 lodgers at "Court of Church Street, Ormskirk"

does anyone with local history knowledge know of a lodging house in that area, at that time?

many thanks!

 :)

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 22 April 10 13:49 BST (UK)

See Church Street here:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/11147

I wonder if your address should be "Court off Church Street ..."  :-\

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 22 April 10 14:43 BST (UK)

It is Court OFF Church St Ormskirk. I just looked.
Migky  ;)

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: plimmerian on Thursday 22 April 10 14:53 BST (UK)

great pic - thanks

so would that "court" be like the Liverpool "court" I have come across before eg: house 4, court 3, then street name?!?

best wishes,
Ian.

 

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 23 April 10 02:46 BST (UK)

I would imagine so.  :)

However this still doesn't really answer your original question.  ;)

Just out of interest, this slightly zoomable map shows Church Street but not enough detail to show courts:
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/oldmap/towns/ormskirk/ormskirk.jpg

Church St is on the left about half way up the map and is the street at an angle of approx 10 o'clock.

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: plimmerian on Friday 23 April 10 16:48 BST (UK)

great link - thanks!


 8)

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: Lal on Saturday 24 April 10 01:06 BST (UK)

Sadly a lot of the old courtyards in Ormskirk have fallen victim to 'development', but there have been a few which were saved and have since been done up - there is one which leads through to Church Street and could be the one! Though your best bet is to contact the local family history society, who might be able to help about which may have contained lodging houses.

There is a pub that used to be called Disraelis (it might still be) and that was in a huge building that could likely have been lodgings.

http://www.odfhs.org.uk/

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 24 April 10 05:01 BST (UK)

11 lodgers and a family could have squeezed into quite a small dwelling in those days when people didn't expect or get large rooms or privacy. On the 1911 census did it say how many rooms were in the house? This may give an indication it's size.

Did Annie have a similar occupation in previous censuses? Did she live at the same address as in 1911?

Title: Re: 1911 address in Ormskirk
Post by: plimmerian on Tuesday 27 April 10 00:39 BST (UK)

thanks for the extra link!  8)

the 1911 census entry was a shock to everyone - previous in 1901 (near father and brother):

1901
Brick Fields, Westhead, Lathom
Entry 145
Thomas PYE hd 26 lab in coal mine b. Lathom
Margaret PYE wf 25 – b. Aughton
Mary A. PYE dau 2 – b. Lathom
Ellen PYE dau 1 b. Aughton

Entry 146
Joshua STAIT hd 41 colliery plate layer b. Clifton, Worcs
Annie STAIT – 21 – b. Lathom
Bertha STAIT – 1 – b. Lathom
Enoch STAIT – 2mths – b. Lathom

Entry 150
William PYE hd 58 lab in coal mine b. Lathom
Mary E. PYE wf 57 – b. Lydiate
Mary E. BERRY gr-dau 9 – b. Lathom
Frederick PYE gr- son 3 – b. Lathom