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My BOCOCK ancestors in Lincolnshire include ;
ELSIE, b Scunthorpe 1917.
ROBERT ALFRED, b North Cockerington 1891.
ALFRED, b Irby-upon-Humber 1859.
ROBERT, b Rothwell, christened there JAN 1835.
WILLIAM, christened Cuxwold FEB 1807.
JAMES, christened Irby-upon-Humber JUL 1784.
WILLIAM b c 1755.
This last WILLIAM married Mary Gunnell at Irby-upon-Humber on 6 MAY 1777.
Their children were ;
JOHN (Chr. Hawersby cum Beesby 1777),
WILLIAM (Chr. Irby 1779)
ROBERT (Chr. Irby 1781)
JAMES (Chr. Irby 1784).
The eldest William was living at Irby-upon-Humber at the time of the 1841 Census (HO 107/638 4 Irb.-u-H 37/4) where he is described as an 85 years old agricultural labourer). William died the following year and was buried on 20 AUG 1842 at Irby-upon-Humber.
1.Does anyone feel they may be related to any of my Bocock ancestors?
If so, I have more information to share.
2. Does anyone know when and where WILLIAM BOCOCK was born, and who his parents were ?
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Hi,
No connection to your Bocock's I'm afraid, but I notice that you are researching the surname KIRK in Cottingham.
I have a direct ancestor JOHN KIRK, baptised April 11th 1802 in Cottingham, Hull - his parents were JAMES KIRK and FRANCES BRIGGS who married in Cottingham May 6th 1793.
Sometime prior to 1851 John and several of his brothers moved to the Newport/New Village area of East Yorkshire.
Any connections?
Regards,
Sasha.
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Dear Sasha,
Thanks for contacting me.
I can't immediately see a link but I'd like to explore the possibility.
At about the time your direct-line ancestor John Kirk was born, my (Gt. X4) Grandparents, Robert Kirke and his wife Dinah (nee Gray) were bringing up a family in Cottingham and, by co-incidence had a son John, christened at Cottingham on 14 JULY 1800.
If there is a link, it must obviously come at some earlier stage.
Robert Kirke had himself been baptised at Cottingham on 5 FEB 1767 (IGI C106642), the son of Henry Kirke and Jane (nee Browne). I am not aware that Henry and Jane had any other children but that does not mean that they didn't. Do you know the parents of your James Kirk ?
Henry Kirke was also baptised at Cottingham, on 23 MAY 1741 the son of James Kirke. I don't know James' wife but a James Kirk married an Ellin Acham on 24 JUNE 1740, the year before Henry was baptised.
A James Kirke had been Christened at Cottingham on 04 JAN 1714, the son of Henry Kirke, but I have not yet confirmed that this is my James Kirke.
Can you see any links ?
Best Wishes,
Geoff Bartholomew.
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Hi Geoff,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not 100% sure of the parents of my James Kirk, but I strongly suspect that he is the James baptised June 18th 1752 at Cottingham, son of James Kirk.
James' wife Frances Briggs was baptised at North Newbald on May 26th 1771 (I have her as a 79 year old widow on the 1851 census at New Village). Initially I thought that the age gap between them was perhaps too big. However I have a copy of two draft wills of James Kirk, one dated 1810 and the other dated 1822. In both he is very clear on the fact that his wife inherits everything for the term of her natural life or as long as she remains a widow. If she remarries everything reverts to his children. It is very tempting to read it as an older man worried that his much younger wife will remarry and have a new family after his death.
His address in 1810 was Lawnes, Cottingham, and in 1822 New Village. He mentions 4 acres of land in Cottingham called 'the Firth' and a farm in Wallingfen which he jointly occupies with his nephew William Kirk.
I wonder if your Henry Kirke's father James could also be the father of my James Kirk? Do you know of any further children of your James Kirke?
Be interested to hear your view.
Best wishes,
Sasha.
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Hi......My Great Grand Mother's name was Keziah Bocock, (nee Bates) from Staffordshire and married to Thomas Bocock from Butterwick. Thomas was born in 1861, his Father's name was John Tranfield Bocock born 1836 in East Butterwick, married to Sarah Kirgarth, born 1833 in Fillingham. Any connections??
Kind Regards,
Mal Tyson
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I am researching Robinson Bocock c1859 son of Wm & Elizabeth Ann nee Simpson married in 1848 Caister district. Cannot find a Wm c 1823 born in Rothwell, suspect it does link up with your line but need to find the gap.
Trying to find out who was father of Wm c1823 and go from there.
Regards Avril
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can anyone here Help Me with were William and Betsy Ann Bocock fit in to all this?
They were also from Lincolnshire
And on May of 1875 21 year old William and his 20 year old wife Betsy Ann, Immigrated to New Zealand[were I live] on a ship called The Halcione
link to story--> http://www.taranakimuseum.org.nz/en/stories/immigration/halcione.asp
thx :)
James BococK
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can anyone here Help Me with were William and Betsy Ann Bocock fit in to all this?
James BococK
This could have been their marriage
Marriages Jun 1873
Bocock William Louth 7a 1292
Medcalf John Louth 7a 1292
Smith Betsy Ann Louth 7a 1292
Smith Mary Ann Louth 7a 1292
26 June 1873 at Binbrook. St Mary
William BOCOCK (20, son of Robert) to Betsy Ann SMITH (19, dau of Thomas)
The 1861 census suggests that William was from Irby upon Humber, son of Robert and Fanny.
Betsy Ann was born Binbrook, daughter of Thomas and Ann.
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WOW!!!! Thx Geoff E ;D
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My BOCOCK ancestors in Lincolnshire include ;
ELSIE, b Scunthorpe 1917.
ROBERT ALFRED, b North Cockerington 1891.
ALFRED, b Irby-upon-Humber 1859.
ROBERT, b Rothwell, christened there JAN 1835.
WILLIAM, christened Cuxwold FEB 1807.
JAMES, christened Irby-upon-Humber JUL 1784.
WILLIAM b c 1755.
This last WILLIAM married Mary Gunnell at Irby-upon-Humber on 6 MAY 1777.
Their children were ;
JOHN (Chr. Hawersby cum Beesby 1777),
WILLIAM (Chr. Irby 1779)
ROBERT (Chr. Irby 1781)
JAMES (Chr. Irby 1784).
The eldest William was living at Irby-upon-Humber at the time of the 1841 Census (HO 107/638 4 Irb.-u-H 37/4) where he is described as an 85 years old agricultural labourer). William died the following year and was buried on 20 AUG 1842 at Irby-upon-Humber.
1.Does anyone feel they may be related to any of my Bocock ancestors?
If so, I have more information to share.
2. Does anyone know when and where WILLIAM BOCOCK was born, and who his parents were ?
WOW!!!! Thx Geoff E ;D
William and Betsy Ann were my greatgrandparents. Have some photos and verified family tree/history to share
Grau
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Geoff [the original poster] is my first cousin
BUT Grau and J-Bo you are our cousins too!!
I am in touch with several branches of the BOCOCK NZ line and William was brother to our Alfred BOCOCK [born 1859 in Irby Lincolnshire] He married Dinah KIRK [I also have an extensive KIRK tree for Cottingham] Lot of information on both lines to share.
I have come across Robinson BOCOCK there is an un-sourced tree on line that links our eldest BOCOCK ancestor William to the descendant line of Robinson.
AND I once helped another researcher of John Tranfield Bocock this is from the top of my head as I can't find the old emails I believe John was born in Wrawby or had connections to the workhouse. I think if I remember correctly his dad was Benjamin and he had two sons who ended up in the workhouse when their Mum died.
I think descendants of the Butterwick clan ended up in Scunthorpe [as did my BOCOCK line] and they had a descendant who had the same name and year of birth as my Dad Albert Ernest BOCOCK [brother of Geoff's Elsie] and they both had daughters a few years apart given the same name too!!
Maria
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can anyone here Help Me with were William and Betsy Ann Bocock fit in to all this?
They were also from Lincolnshire
James, if you still need information on William and Betsy Ann please contact me
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Hi Phil
I keep coming across your name in connection to the BOCOCK family. I am not sure if we have exchanged information in the past. A NZ cousin and myself made the link between the Lincolnshire and NZ lines and a lot of our/my work on the BOCOCK tree's I have freely shared and has been replicated online [such as the BOCOCK family picture]. I would love to share information with you.
Maria Borrill nee BOCOCK
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Hi Maria
We have been in touch before but I am not sure whether we have exchanged any info. I have BOCOCKs and BORRILLs on my tree (I think we are distant relations) and would be willing to discuss them further. My email address is greshlincs(at)hotmail(dot)co(dot)uk
Regards
Phil
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I have picked up amessage from Sasha via a third party, from this forum dated 14th July 2004 which I have missed. Is Sasha available to contact please?
Midman
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Midman- I've merged your post with the existing thread but since you've 3 posts you can send Sasha a PM (personal message).
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Sasha,
I have a copy of his will dated 1809 which says much the same, but hints at connections in Barnard Castle.
Midman
Hi Geoff,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not 100% sure of the parents of my James Kirk, but I strongly suspect that he is the James baptised June 18th 1752 at Cottingham, son of James Kirk.
James' wife Frances Briggs was baptised at North Newbald on May 26th 1771 (I have her as a 79 year old widow on the 1851 census at New Village). Initially I thought that the age gap between them was perhaps too big. However I have a copy of two draft wills of James Kirk, one dated 1810 and the other dated 1822. In both he is very clear on the fact that his wife inherits everything for the term of her natural life or as long as she remains a widow. If she remarries everything reverts to his children. It is very tempting to read it as an older man worried that his much younger wife will remarry and have a new family after his death.
His address in 1810 was Lawnes, Cottingham, and in 1822 New Village. He mentions 4 acres of land in Cottingham called 'the Firth' and a farm in Wallingfen which he jointly occupies with his nephew William Kirk.
I wonder if your Henry Kirke's father James could also be the father of my James Kirk? Do you know of any further children of your James Kirke?
Be interested to hear your view.
Best wishes,
Sasha.
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Thanks.
Midman
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Hi, I am pretty sure I am linked to this Bocock line. My great great great grandfather is Robert Bocock. He had my great great grandfather William Bocock (born 29th July 1854 and he was the one who immigrated to New Zealand on the boat " Halcione in 1875. He was married to Betsy Ann Smith.
My mother was a Bocock.
Would love any information you may have if this is the same linked Bocock family.
I am very new to all this family tree stuff.
Regards
Lesley
My BOCOCK ancestors in Lincolnshire include ;
ELSIE, b Scunthorpe 1917.
ROBERT ALFRED, b North Cockerington 1891.
ALFRED, b Irby-upon-Humber 1859.
ROBERT, b Rothwell, christened there JAN 1835.
WILLIAM, christened Cuxwold FEB 1807.
JAMES, christened Irby-upon-Humber JUL 1784.
WILLIAM b c 1755.
This last WILLIAM married Mary Gunnell at Irby-upon-Humber on 6 MAY 1777.
Their children were ;
JOHN (Chr. Hawersby cum Beesby 1777),
WILLIAM (Chr. Irby 1779)
ROBERT (Chr. Irby 1781)
JAMES (Chr. Irby 1784).
The eldest William was living at Irby-upon-Humber at the time of the 1841 Census (HO 107/638 4 Irb.-u-H 37/4) where he is described as an 85 years old agricultural labourer). William died the following year and was buried on 20 AUG 1842 at Irby-upon-Humber.
1.Does anyone feel they may be related to any of my Bocock ancestors?
If so, I have more information to share.
2. Does anyone know when and where WILLIAM BOCOCK was born, and who his parents were ?
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Hi,my Great Great grandparents were Willim Bocock and Betsy Ann Bocock (nee Smith).
I am very new to tracking family. I would appreciate any information you may have regarding these two. My Mum was a Bocock.
Thank you
Regards
Lesley
can anyone here Help Me with were William and Betsy Ann Bocock fit in to all this?
They were also from Lincolnshire
James, if you still need information on William and Betsy Ann please contact me
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Hello
I am trying to find any information about Elsie Bocock. Lived in Hundleby, Spilsby, Lincolnshire and died in early 1970. Lived with my grandfather John Henry Fairweather for many years.
Thanks
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Hello
I am trying to find any information about Elsie Bocock. Lived in Hundleby, Spilsby, Lincolnshire and died in early 1970. Lived with my grandfather John Henry Fairweather for many years.
Thanks
Do you mean Elsie Dinah BOCOCK, b 1893 d 1977?
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Thank you. Yes, the date seems about right. I live outside the UK but currently visiting after many years. I have been trying to find her grave. Sadly, I assumed she was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire but can find no trace. She was like a grandmother to me. Any more information would be appreciated.
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Hi
I have just come across this post and have read it with great interest.
My husband is a Bocock born in Scunthorpe. John Tranfield is his great, great grandfather. I have never been sure about his wife believing it to be either Sarah Kirgarth or Sarah Corringham Woodhead. His father Benjamin was born around 1800 and died in Brigg Union workhouse. His father was William and I think had 2 marriages firstly to Susannah Oxley and then to Ann Blanchard. The spelling of Bocock varies a good deal and I’m not always sure if I’m following the same line! Geoff’s William is my husband’s 5X g grandfather born in Irby and married to Mary Gunnel. I think his father could be a Samuel Bocock born in 1726.
If anyone has firm evidence for any of these Bococks I would be very grateful as my tree is full of question marks!
mdb
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Thank you. Yes, the date seems about right. I live outside the UK but currently visiting after many years. I have been trying to find her grave. Sadly, I assumed she was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire but can find no trace. She was like a grandmother to me. Any more information would be appreciated.
Elsie is a 5th cousin removed of mine. I can't tell you much more about her, she was buried about May 1977 in the Spilsby registration district, but I don't know where.
I can send you a snip of her family record if you pm me your email address