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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: cherry2009 on Friday 23 April 10 22:17 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
This is a long shot but I am trying to find more info about John francis O'mara- Raf segeant Romford Essex and father Andrew, retired police sergeant at time of John's marriage in 1947.
I would be gratefull of any info.. here's what I know
John Francis O'mara born approx 1917 not sure where.
Marriage 1947 Romford Essex to Olive B Halliwell at 30yrs old
Dies 1954 Bolton Lancashire, England
Possible Irish connection (heard from family/seems v.likely) that's all I know.
Sadie
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It's going to be difficult to locate John without details on where he was from in Ireland.
His father's name and occupation could help locate him on our 1911 census, which might give you a possible place of birth for John.
You could try searching the civil index for his birth, but there are quite a number of possible matches. Note that the surname if often spelt as O'Meara also.
Shane
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links :
2 Minute Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) Details on searching the BMD Index, ordering certs
1911 Census (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/)
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Thanks for your help... the surname is spelt O'mara on certificates could it be still spelt O'meara????
Yes I have nothing but the father's name to confirm I am on the right John, so it will be tricky.
Sadie.
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Another update...
There's a possible match for his birth on the Civil Index in the right year and with his full name... Middle are not often included in registrations, so you might be in luck :
Name: John Francis O'Meara
Registration District: Borrisokane
Event Type: Birth
Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1917
Volume Number: 3 / Page Number: 299
The registration district of Borrisokane is in Co. Tipperary
Shane
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Thanks for your help... the surname is spelt O'mara on certificates could it be still spelt O'meara????
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I presume you mean on English certificates ?
I wouldn't worry about a small difference in spelling like this .. names were often recorded with variations like this due to various reasons - especially when people with Irish names moved away from home.
O'Meara is the more common spelling of the surname in Ireland
Shane
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Thank you so much.
I will order the cert and hopefully his father will be called Andrew! The website links were helpful.
Thanks again. I will let you know how I get on.
Sadie
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.. hope that turn out to be the right John Francis.. certainly worth trying to see
I've just looked up the details of the surname O'Meara/O'Mara and it originates in the Tipperary area. The town of Toomevara (Thuaim Uí Mheára in Irish) in the county is apparently named after the O'Meara sept (an ancient family).
Shane
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Hi,
What's the best site to order certificates from? I live in England but what's really important is the cross checking to be sure it is the right John?
Sadie.
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The only official place to order certs from is the GRO - included in the introduction topic mentioned earlier. (http://www.groireland.ie/)
If you order a research cert using references it costs €4. I am not familiar with any reference checking options, although they will apparently do searches. I have never used this option and I'm sure it costs more and has limits.
Shane
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Brilliant! :)
Sadie.
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I am not familiar with any reference checking options, although they will apparently do searches. I have never used this option and I'm sure it costs more and has limits.
I've had a few searches done and the basic service is a 3 year search which costs 6 Euro. There is also a 10 year search and (from vague memory) it costs 10 Euro.
However, if you search the Civil Reg yourself and come up with a number of possibles but you know (e.g.) the father's name, you can send them a list of the possibles together with the father's name and you will get the best match for the basic 4 Euro fee. I have done this a few times and subsequent checks with Parish Registers have proved 100% accurate so far. It's particularly useful for births where the child was registered as 'Male' or 'Female'.
Dara.
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Hi all
I'm just keeping an eye on this thread as I have Meara/ Mara/ Marah with or without the "O" in my tree
My lot were from Co. Kerry though back in the mid 1800's
Good luck with your search, Sadie
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Hi i think thats my grand uncle you are looking for. He was known as frank to his close family, was in the raf, got married in england and had two daughters.was born here in ireland in monivea, where we live now. His father was andrew a police man with the ric and mother was rita. He had two sisters peg, my granny and annie. Really confident its the same guy. Could u e mail me on (*) thanks a million! Deborah
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The O'mara I'm looking for had one daughter and one son as far as I know. Happy to help but not sure the same person.
Sadie
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Hi Sadie.
I am sure it is the same man. Came from Monivea, County Galway, Ireland. His father was Andrew, who was a retired policeman. His mother's maiden name was Marguerita Kennedy. Her father was John Francis Kennedy, who was also a policeman. He served in the RAF during the war and he died in Bolton sometime in the mid 1950's. Too many coincidences for it to be anybody else.
Regards.
John.
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Are you related?... perhaps you could send a personal message with daughters names and/or where he served in Raf?
It does seem too many similar life events!
Sadie.
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Hi sadie.
Can't send personel messages yet. My cousin has been in contact. Frank O'Mara was my uncle. His sister was my mother. I never knew him. I was only about 5years old when he died. As far as I know, the family never used O'Meara. However it is possible that his father was known as Andrew Mara when he was in the Royal Irish Constabulary. I had the RAF service number 623706 texted to me today from Ireland. I am not sure where they found that from.
Regards.
John.
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It's the same guy!!!
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Hello Sadie, Monivea and Moyles in regards to John Francis O'mara of Bolton who was married to Olive Halliwell. I can confirm that he did infact have a daughter Born 1948 and a son born 1952 at the time of his death. I am certain that this is the same person you are referring too. All the facts you have described are true and i can confirm that he was my father, my name is Roger and he died when i was less than two years old. I would love to love to hear from you or any members of his family. Any contact would be greatfully received as i have limited information myself.
I know this is an old thread but i hopefully wait for a reply
Roger
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Hi Roger.
I am John Moyles and your father was my uncle. I replied to messages in the past from Sadie. I have just checked this thread again and found your message. If you see this message, please reply.
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Hello Sadie,
I know that your Aunt's eldest son (your first cousin) has responded to your enquiry regarding your father, John Francis O'Mara. Well, I too would like to respond as I am another of your first cousins, the daughter of your father's younger sister. Please do get in touch with either of us, though I note you live in England, as does our cousin. I live in Canada, but would like to make contact and perhaps meet one of these days. Almost 60 years of silence, so there is lots to share.
We are all keen to make contact.
Kaluda
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Hi Kaluda,
By replying to this thread Sadie has been sent a notification by RootsChat so hopefully they will be intouch very soon.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Sadie, Where are you? You have two first cousins eager to make contact. Your Father, was our only Uncle on that side of the family. Please respond.
Kaluda
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Just replying to this thread incase you may have missed your first email notification :)
Hope that you are in touch with your cousins very soon.
Regards
Sarah
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Hello,
I am just finishing the family history of the OMARAS of Monivea and formerly Mountwilson, Edenderry. There was were 9 children in the family.