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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Topic started by: marydeb on Thursday 08 April 10 00:07 BST (UK)

Title: de Burgh
Post by: marydeb on Thursday 08 April 10 00:07 BST (UK)
I need help looking up the birth of Henry Persse de Burgh , Jersey in either 1866 or 1868  ,,,,please ??????? This would probably be found under 'D' in the registers.
Title: Re: Help Required please ..de Burgh , BIRTH , 1866 or 1868
Post by: Hill on Friday 09 April 10 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi Mary

I'm afraid I can't see this birth in the index. I've searched through all the B's as I assume Persee was a second name.

Stewart
Title: Re: Help Required please ..de Burgh , BIRTH , 1866 or 1868
Post by: marydeb on Friday 09 April 10 19:51 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Stewart,i
I only found out recently he was born in Jersey, from his Army records. I usually look up the name under 'D'  for de Burgh, Yes indeed the Persse was a second Christian name and nothing to do with his Surname. ( his mother was a Persse before getting married )

I think the family must have been there with the Army.

 Thank you again for your help.
Mary
Title: de Burgh
Post by: marydeb on Thursday 29 April 10 11:43 BST (UK)
Help please..... I have new family info which suggests that Henry Persse de Burgh was born on Jersey in 1870 ,20th June.
Would someone look this up for me please . 'de Burgh' is the surname.
 Thank you,
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 29 April 10 11:50 BST (UK)
No need to start a new topic- I've merged your latest post with the existing thread and changed the title to de Burgh.
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: Hill on Friday 30 April 10 19:48 BST (UK)
Hi Mary

I'm afarid that even with that specific date I can't see anything either under the D's or the B's.

Stewart
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: behindthefrogs on Friday 30 April 10 22:46 BST (UK)
The "surname" de Burgh will always present difficulties because originally it will always have been preceeded by another name.  Before the advent of surnames this would have been at least a christian name but often also Fitz "somebody" or some other form of "son of" "somebody".  The problem is if and when these other names were dropped, which was often relatively recently.

This means that you need to search for surnames where "de Burgh" is proceeded by another name.  "de Burgh means from the borough or walled town.

David
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: marydeb on Saturday 01 May 10 07:02 BST (UK)
Thank you Stewart,
I am at the same 'brick wall ' ............ I think they came down from MARS !!!!!!!!!!

Mary
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: marydeb on Saturday 01 May 10 07:08 BST (UK)
Hi David,

I am aware of this , but the family have used the surname 'de Burgh' since at least 1830's and I have no problem finding other member of the family under 'de Burgh'. It is just my husband's grandfather  I am chasing for 20 odd years.!!!!!!!!!!!
Only found out through Army records , he put on the forms for joining the army , that he was born in Jersey. Hope dashed again....

Mary
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: Spanrz on Monday 04 November 13 02:17 GMT (UK)
Mary,
           I am familiar with the DeBurgh and Persse names. I have Persse ancestry that goes back to Galway. I am familiar with a DeBurgh Fitzpatrick Persse, who came from Moyode Castle - Galway.

Could you let me know what were the parents names to the DeBurgh your looking for. A lot of names in the Persse family were handed down and it is very difficult to understand who was who, what era they were from and not knowing the parent's names. It is a major trap within this family.
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: marydeb on Wednesday 13 November 13 15:15 GMT (UK)
Hi,

The Persse part of the family is a Leut. Henry Dudley Persse, born 1810c. Galway (no proof).
He Married in Dec,1835 Eliza LOPDELL from Galway. They moved with the army to Mauriyius.

The De Burgh part was 'adopted' in 1874 !!!!  The name was le Brun before that !!!!!!
Title: Re: de Burgh
Post by: marydeb on Wednesday 13 November 13 15:17 GMT (UK)
Also looking into Blood and Blakeley. Co.Clare.