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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: Uregirl on Monday 03 May 10 07:25 BST (UK)
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I live in New Zealand and have established through a death certificate that my gt gt Grandmother was from Ireland.
I am looking for connections / information on her or her family especially in Ireland. This is the detail I currently have on her:
Adelia Briget Roach b.approx.1842 in Kilkenny, Ireland. Father's name on death certificate is listed as Phillip Roach, occupation "Magistrate".
She arrived in New Zealand approx. 1863. Married to Henry Donkin when she was 22 yrs old. I believe they married in Dunedin, South Island, New Zealand in 1864.
I know that they lived in the Thames area, New Zealand for some of their marriage and they worked in the Gold Mines.
She died 27/12/1920 in Auckland, New Zealand.
Thank you for taking the time to read my post.
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Most of Kilkenny church records are online on www.irish-roots.ie. It's a pay to view site but you can search for free. A quick search shows no record for your Adelia Bridget.
You could try the LDS pilot search www.familysearch.org.
Griffiths Valuation taken mid 1800s shows no Philip Roach in Kilkenny so perhaps he had died.
As for the surname Donkin, I think maybe it's a corruption of Duncan?
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Griffith's Valuation of c 1850 shows a Philip Roche at Shankill,Kilkenny.This is the usual spelling for the name in Ireland.The IFHF shows 36 births/bapttisms in Kilkenny,where child's father was named Philip Roach/Roche.The name Adelia does not occur,but it sometimes happened that children who were known by this given name-usually Delia-had a different baptism name-say Mary.It is possible that her baptism was in a parish with a late start for records.If you knew her mother's name you might find siblings.Good luck.
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Hi
I'm helping someone at present with this DONKIN family
wondering if you know whether Henry's parents were Margaret Cole (Margaretta) and Ralph Donkin who married in 1817 England
Bye
Althea
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There are 3 of us in NZ who met through a message board and are all researching Donkins. We each come from separate children of Adelia Roach and Henry Donkin. Henry had approx. 9 children and we believe that he named his first son Ralph. We think that his brother was called Ralph as we have Henry (aged 32) and Ralph Donkin (aged 36) arriving in NZ in 1857 on the Messenger.
That would mean that Ralph's birth would have been approx. 1821 and Henry's birth approx. 1825. We are still hunting for Certificates that link Henry and Ralph and prove their parentage. I would be happy to pass on anything new that could assist you as it comes in :).
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That would be good
I'll let the researcher know I'm helping - that you have some messages here
I looked at the Thames Advertiser today at death for Margaretta Donkin in England, but sadly didn't give family details as to who put notice in.
Also if I can pass her name on via PM
Have you been to the Treasury site for Thames
http://www.thetreasury.org.nz/Resources.htm
Half way down is the pioneer register if you are interested in submitting a form, so that your name is on file..so far no one researching Donkin officially
If you do send it back to PO Box 75 THames or you can scan and email to me, I can give you my email via PM messaging
BYe
Althea
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Hi
I too am chasing the lineage thread from Henry Donkin and Bridget Adelia one of Bridgets 9 children was Eleanor Hindall who married Samuel McDonald Fairley my Grandmothers parents.
Regards
Peter Mence
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It seems that this is the same Henry Donkin that was found guilty of abandoning his wife and nine children - not sure what his magistrate father in law would have made of that!
Bridget Adelia, Eleanor Hindall (spelling from my Grandmother's birth cert but anything goes) and Samuel McDonald Fairley all apparently lived in Tararu Rd, Thames.
Eleanor & Samel's marriage cert lists Samuel as "Farley" so is difficult to search.
My Grandmother's birth certificate lists Samuels's occupation as "miner".
My Grandmother was Edith Donkin Mence (nee Fairley).
I believe that Edith knew the Roach family and worked for them for some time before her marriage to Jack Ronald Mence.
Hope this helps
Peter
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;D Welcome to the family. As you will have noted from an earlier post, there are 3 of us searching and we each connect through separate children of Henry and Adelia. I have much that I am happy to share with you. We have concluded for instance that your Eleanor Hindle Donkin and my great grandfather Thomas Cole Donkin were twins. I am currently waiting for a certificate that should back up this theory. I am happy to continue but emailing may be a better form of communication so I will PM you my email address.
Regards
Allie (uregirl)
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I have 2 Ralph Donkins in my tree, one born in 1909 in Thames and he was married to my Gt grandmother on my dads side and his father was a Ralph as well born around 1875-1890 also born in Thames NZ. The 2nd Ralph has a middle name Roache if that helps.
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Henry Philip Donkin was my Great Grandfather; my Grandfather (also Henry Philip) married Ellen Charlton. We have much of the family history complete post the first Henry Philip, but always drew a blank trying to go back beyond that because the elders in the family refused to speak about it! I'm a bit new to the internet based way of researching family history but if anyone could shed some light on him I would be grateful and happy to share all the "post H P 1" info we have. I have recently returned to NZ after living overseas, so will be accessing the Thames sites mention elsewhere, but thought I'd post this in case anyone has crossed this ground before.
Best regards.
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There is a great article about Delia Donkin in paperspast nz
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=THS19130301.2.16&srpos=2&e=-------10--1----0Delia+Donkin
Mrs Delia Donkin was living alone in the Taranaki district during the Maori land wars with her young children. Her husband was away as a volunteer, she had to defend herself and the children. Came to the Thames feild in 1867. Was living at Tararu Road at the time of the article. Hope you can open it
Mel
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Also another article stating that Henry Donkin of Tararu is the son of Ralph Donkin C.E of Leyland Parish, Lancashire, England
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS19010622.2.32.5&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0Donkin+Thames--
Also mentions the names Trooper William Donkin (died 1 June 1901 in South Africa at Doomplat) son of Henry.
William Donkins sisters Mrs J.F.Stewart, Mrs G.E.Bishop, Mrs H.Clark and Mrs S.Fairly
Mel
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My father was Henry Phillip Donkin's (no. 3) brother, Laurence Ralph.
Their father Henry Phillip Donkin (no. 2) married Agnes Johnston (nee Pitkethly, from Scotland, I have information on them) and was apparently a butcher. My dad was born in 1913 in Kihikihi NZ, and I think they moved to Thames when he was very young. Henry Phillip No. 2 left Agnes to bring up 7 children on her own. I believe he was an alcoholic. That will be why there was silence about their background as that would have been very shameful. Agnes was my Nana and was a wonderful woman. She took in sewing to earn an income and was blind by the time I was a child.
Their grandfather, also Henry Phillip Donkin (no.1) was apparently a doctor. He and his brother, Ralph, a Civil Engineer, came to New Zealand from Northumberland in the 1860s. They had a third brother, Thomas Cole who was an artist and had a son called Thomas.
Their father was Ralph Donkin, married Margaretta. Either Ralph or Margarett was born around 1775 and died 1868 in Northumberland.
The older brother of Henry Phillip no2 was Ralph and he had a son Ralph and another Reg, but it appears the posts re Roach and Irish connection don't fit with the info I have, outlined above. Perhaps they fit with Ralph the Civlil Engineer who also came to nz in 1860s, oldest son of Ralph and Margaretta - I see there is info about them on page 1 of this post.
According to my info William who died 1.6.1901 in the Boer War was the son of Henry Phillip no. 1, the doctor, ....