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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: DarrenO on Tuesday 04 May 10 23:55 BST (UK)
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Hi
Could someone kindly tell me what parish Cootehill is in, I've been looking at the Duffy pedigree and it mentions an Owen Duffy from Cootehill in 1865. There is an Owen from Cootehill, Cavan at this time in my wife's family tree and wondering if there is a connection or if any of the Owens listed in Monaghan by Griffiths are actually the Owen referred to.
If there is a connection the pedigree goes back a further five generations.
Regards
Darren
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You don't say what religion but;
http://www.cootehill.kilmore.anglican.org/page3.html
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Hi
Thank you, unfortunately that is Cootehill, Cavan, there is a Cootehill in Monaghan
The reason i'm asking is because of this link http://www.mymcdermottfamily.com/Duffy/duffy.pdf (see page 5)
I'm trying to find out what parish Cootehill, Monaghan is in to see if there is an Owen Duffy listed in Griffiths Valuation.
If Cootehill, Monaghan is in Ematris for example then I can probably discount any link between my wife's Owen Duffy and the Owen Duffy in the link above.
Regards
Darren
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http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/List_of_Townlands_in_County_Monaghan#C but no Cootehill townland, then you have the likes of this " born 9 May 1886 in Lisseveny, Ematris Parish, Co. Monaghan, Northern Ireland, was christened 12 Aug 1886 in Rockcorry Church, District Cootehill, Co. Monaghan" which seems contradictory.
The mention of Cootehill sure causes confusion as I have relatives married in Rockcorry but when I try to tell other people that their relatives are mine they insist they are not because the lived in Cootehill, they don't seem to realize there are 2 Cootehills within walking distance of each other yet different counties.
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Google maps shows signs of a place named Cootehill just over the border in Co. Monagahan (see Cootehill, Cavan to Cootehill, Monaghan (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=cootehill,+cavan&daddr=cootehill,+monaghan,+ireland&geocode=FakbOQMdEwOU_ymhn1QA3hxeSDG9x9PxaUEzsg%3BFZXuOAMdlVSV_yljyvLY5qdgSDESOMW6p8cAJg&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=54.194516,-6.874748&sspn=0.695754,2.04071&ie=UTF8&z=13) ) but when you zoom in there's nowhere shown by that name... the place marked at the location is Mount Lodge and this corresponds to the townland of Mountain Lodge Desmese on the old OSI maps. The townland database (www.thecore.com/seanruad) list the details for this as:
Townland : Mountain Lodge Demesne
Civil Parish : Aghnamullen
Poor Law Union (registration distrct) : Cootehill
County : Monaghan
Shane
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Cootehill is in Co. Cavan but very close to the border with Co. Monaghan. However, part of Cootehill Poor Law Union is in Co. Monaghan. Griffith's Valuation (1858) shows an Owen Duffy listed under the townland of Monneill, Ematris Parish, Cootehill PLU, Co. Monaghan.
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
Note: there are also listings for Owen Duffy on Drumhillagh townland (Drung Parish, Cootehill PLU) and Church St., Magheranure townland (Drumgoon Parish, Cootehill PLU).
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/08ms/ shows the two Cootehills, one the town and the other the townland (just South of East) if you just follow along the Cavan/Monaghan borderline.
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Google maps shows signs of a place named Cootehill just over the border in Co. Monagahan (see Cootehill, Cavan to Cootehill, Monaghan (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=cootehill,+cavan&daddr=cootehill,+monaghan,+ireland&geocode=FakbOQMdEwOU_ymhn1QA3hxeSDG9x9PxaUEzsg%3BFZXuOAMdlVSV_yljyvLY5qdgSDESOMW6p8cAJg&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=54.194516,-6.874748&sspn=0.695754,2.04071&ie=UTF8&z=13) ) but when you zoom in there's nowhere shown by that name... the place marked at the location is Mount Lodge and this corresponds to the townland of Mountain Lodge Desmese on the old OSI maps. The townland database (www.thecore.com/seanruad) list the details for this as:
Townland : Mountain Lodge Demesne
Civil Parish : Aghnamullen
Poor Law Union (registration distrct) : Cootehill
County : Monaghan
Shane
Sorry Shanew our posts crossed. You are indeed correct, first it is there, then it disappears when you zoom in. I've relatives there but they are not in Aughnamullen Parish records but are in Rockcurry and Ematris. The joys of Civil Parish versus Church Parish and the confusion thereof and that's forgetting about the PLU!
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Thank you all for getting involved in this thread. I can confirm that my wife's Owen Duffy is the Drumgoon parish one. He was a house painter and glazier and died in 1877 (aged 80 per the death cert). Familysearch has shows the Owen Duffy in the link as being born abt. 1785 so perhaps there is no connection and I won't be able to go back any further than I have.
Regards
Darren
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Sounds like you're giving up!
"being born abt. 1785" means what? NOTHING!
While Familysearch is good, as such, it is very far from accurate. I'm not criticizing them but very often they are way off with their guesses.
Forget about the person and work on the property he owned if any. Gets you back another 100 years.
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While researching my family I thought the handwritten immigration record said "Coothill, Co Monaghan". I have since found out that the location was "Coolkill" and found them in the townland of Coolkill East, Co Monaghan. Anniebelle
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Not giving up Hallmark, sent you a pm. I will have to slow down as my wife is due our second child in three weeks time. But I love the detective work required and if I proved a link to that Duffy pedigree I'd be over the moon.
Regards
Darren
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I thought our family was the only one having trouble with Cootehill.
Word has it that James Harrison and Frances Phillips had children born in Cootehill, Monaghan Goire. Well there is no Monaghan Goire. Goire means near in Gaelic. The answer for our Harrison family at least is that Cootehill is "near" County Monaghan, but in County Cavan.
Polly
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The Coote Estate in Cootehill, Cavan goes into Co Monaghan
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My dad was born in Cootehill near East Knockbride in County Cavan and is from a long line of Duffys in that area. His father was Patrick Duffy the postman of Drumeague born in 1898 and his father was Thomas Duffy of Skeagh who married Catherine McDermott.
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my dad was born in Cootehill, Bailieborough, Caounty Cavan in 1935.amny Duffys originated from there. East Knockbride was my dad's are (catholic) and Killincare the Parish for Cootehill.