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Title: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: omap on Thursday 06 May 10 08:57 BST (UK)
Can anyone help here?  I have had ancestors living, married and born at 60 Annfield Road for almost 100 years and yet when I searched the address on Google Earth what I get is an industrial area!!  And the industrial area appears to have been there forever with some really ancient buildings.  In saying that across the road is a vacant grassy area.  Could it be that there used to be row houses on that grassy area as recent as 1981 but have since been demolished? 

My sister travelled from Canada to visit  my great Aunt Mary Allan Lorimer at 60 Annfield Road in summer 1981 and she distinctly remembers there being row houses two stories high and she had to go round back to access the stairs to my great Aunt's 2nd floor appartment.  She said in back of the row houses was a grassed area with tables and she spoke to the ladies sitting there sunning themselves.

Any help on where to find out what happened to the row houses would be appreciated.

Thanks...MJ
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: jobarnesmum on Thursday 06 May 10 09:33 BST (UK)
I cant help but wonder if the good people at TVFHS can help

find them here http://www.tayvalleyfhs.org.uk/

Jo
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: bleckie on Thursday 06 May 10 12:53 BST (UK)
Hi Mj

have a look at the link below it is the street map for Dundee 1870 over current google map.

From memory I think the houses in anfield road were demolished mid to end 80s.

http://geo.nls.uk/maps/towns/dundee1870/openlayers.html

yours Aye
BruceL
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: Lisaw on Thursday 06 May 10 14:25 BST (UK)
Hi MJ,

Did your sister happen to take any pictures of the row houses? My family lived at, if memory serves correctly, 13 Annfield Row (not sure if Row or Road) & 16 Annfield Street.
Does anyone know if this entire "Annfield" area (street, row & road) was demolished?
Thanks,
Lisa
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: omap on Thursday 06 May 10 18:02 BST (UK)
Thanks Jo......will try them.

Bleckie:  Thanks for the info.  I tried the Google overlay but couldn't get it to zoom in.  I did Google Earth the address, zoomed in and saw the street view of the industrial area on the west side of Annfield Road and the open grass field on the west side of Annfield Road.  It's a huge grassy area.  I assume the grassy area must be where the row houses used to be. 

Lisa:  My sister is going to look for pictures she took on her trip to Dundee.  She is presently finishing building her new house (living in it at the moment) and everything is still in boxes, so it could be awhile before she locates the pictures.  ::)
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: breaky on Friday 07 May 10 11:50 BST (UK)
Hope this link works

www.nls.uk/maps/atlas/bartholomew/view/?id=1208

Go west up the Hawkhill road.


breaky
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: omap on Friday 07 May 10 16:48 BST (UK)
Thanks Breaky....that map is awesome.   From doing the Google Earth street view I can relate to the buildings on the west side of Annfield Rd but strangely on this map it does not show the buildings on the east side.  I guess it doesn't show ALL the buildings.  At any rate the map is awesome.  Thanks again.  Will forward this site to my sister and see if these areas ring any bells.

MJ
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: breaky on Saturday 08 May 10 11:54 BST (UK)
Oops - I'd forgotten I have the Alan Godfrey edition of the 1901 map of Dundee (South).

www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk

This does show houses on the east side of the road, near the Hawkhill end. 

On the back of the single map sheet, however, are printed a couple of pages of "directory extracts from a 1901 edition for Dundee" -

Number 73 Annfield Road has

Cathro, Miss H., dressmaker
Urquhart, J.T., telegraphist
Robertson, John, photographer
Lorimer, W.K., baker
Bogue, John, waste merchant.

(The church further up the road is Martyrs Free Church).

breaky
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: omap on Sunday 09 May 10 04:11 BST (UK)
That is so incredibly cool Breaky.....you just solved a mystery.  I knew my Great Aunt Mary's son lived just a block or two away....and you just gave me his initials....W.K. Lorimer.  My sister couldn't remember his first name.  This will jog her memory.   Does it list the residents of 60 Annfield Rd. on the back of those sheets by any chance?
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: breaky on Sunday 09 May 10 12:21 BST (UK)
Sadly, there  is no number 60, unless it was empty at the time and not included.

Number 49 is followed by Martyrs Free Church, then "Blackheath House", then number 73 -  in one column on the page.

The second column has number 62 "Grayfield House", then number 60.

Only one of the two houses is named on the map,  that's "Greyfield House" with an "e", number 62, but it's on the West side of Annfield Road.

Blackheath House was probably the house on the East side - (Blackheath Place is the next street further along on the Hawkhill Road to the East of Annfield). 

No other Lorimers are listed.

I don't have an Ancestry subscription, but I think the 1881 census can be searched under street name there, so perhaps another Rootschat member might be able to help?  If you are looking for Dundee yourself on Scotlands people, then try Angus with the district "Liff" (Liff and Benvie") for 1901.

breaky
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: Lisaw on Sunday 09 May 10 13:13 BST (UK)
Good morning,

1881 census 60 Annfield Road:

David & Margaret Fairweather & family: David A., James, Christina, & Margaret, also Mom Agnes Will

George & Margaret McMillan & family: Robert, William, John, Mary, & Jemima

William & Eliza White & family: Eliza, John, James, Margaret, Eliza, & Cathrine.

Lisa

Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: Harry Peter Rose on Saturday 17 March 18 06:39 GMT (UK)
google Annfield House ....surrounding factories and homes have been demolished.. .the house remains as flats and you could actually stay as an exchange of homes guest!   GREAT HISTORY ABOUT THIS HOUSE!
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: Harry Peter Rose on Saturday 17 March 18 06:47 GMT (UK)
A follow up to Annfield  House which I new well when I lived in Dundee it was mentioned today in
https://www.facebook.com/groups/664596423667561/

WHITE ROCK BC CANADA
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: Harry Peter Rose on Saturday 17 March 18 06:50 GMT (UK)
google Annfield House ....surrounding factories and homes have been demolished.. .the house remains as flats and you could actually stay as an exchange of homes guest!   GREAT HISTORY ABOUT THIS HOUSE!
https://www.homeforexchange.com/listing/united-kingdom/dundee-2-br-flat-in-dundee-city-in-heritage-home......I am going to stay there
Title: Re: 60 Annfield Road, Dundee?
Post by: HeatherConnie on Saturday 26 May 18 20:52 BST (UK)
Here is a bit of the 1900 map of Dundee. I lived on the north side of Annfield Street at the junction with Peddie Street from 1962-66. That tenement is still there, but most of the rest of the street is long gone.