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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Sligo => Topic started by: pckl on Saturday 29 May 10 13:48 BST (UK)
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Hi
I traced my mother's family (Quinnin) through Northumberland, England.
Other the years the name changed... 1851: Quanan 1861: Quennan 1871:Quinnin 1881: Mc Quinnin 1891: Quinnin 1901: Quinnin 1911: Quinnin and Quinin
I believe the name changed because of the irish accent. I believe the name was originally Queenan or something similiar. I believe the Quinnins are from Sligo from the 1911 census for my great-great grandfather. Martin Quinin b. abt 1838. The place of birth was as follows: Co Sligo (parish unknown)
Martin's parents were Patrick b. abt 1820 and Bridget b. abt 1813. Patrick was sometimes known as Patrick Andrew. Martin and two siblings that I know of... Mary b. abt 1840 and James b. abt 1845.
They must have came over between 1841 and 1851.
I don't know what to do ??? ???... I would love to get back further!
pckl
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The surname. Appears in Sligo as Quinn. As you have no Parish or Townland.
You could try Familysearch.org
There are quite a few Quinn's there that come from Tobercurry.
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Hi and thanks for replying!
Are you sure it would be Quinn? Over time the name always had 2 syllables. And almost sounded the same. I am opening my search now though.
Thanks
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Well no one can be 100% sure for the various changes over the years.
Maybe would be a good idea to look at the 1901 census for sligo.
[ I know your family will not be there for by then they were in England]
But it may give you a clue on a parish etc and the surname.
www.leitrim-roscommon.com
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The name was almost certainly Queenan, I am familiar with this family as I looked it up many years ago having a distant connection with the Queenans of Co Sligo who first settled at Newcastle and later the Durham coal fields, whilst I noticed your branch moved to North Shields and spread out from there.
I have never been able to establish if the families were actually related. As Quinan is usually pronounced Queenan it is easy to understand why it was sometimes spelt that way.
I may have been in touch with you in the passed on another board and if not it must have been one of your relations who is doing the same research.
Good luck,
J.T.A.
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There is a John Quinan listed as a visitor at Newcastle in 1911 born Easky, Co Sligo which might be a clue.
Below are the only variant forms of the name listed in the parish of Easky in The Primary Valuation of Ireland which in the case of Sligo was surveyed in 1858.
Quinan Bartholomew Cooga Easky Sligo
Quinan James Ballycummin Easky Sligo
Quinan John Cooga Easky Sligo
J.T.A.
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Tithe Applotment Books 1824:
Parish of Easky, Co Sligo.
Townland of Ballycummin Andrew Quinnane
Townland of Quique Bartholomew Cunnane
Ditto John Cunnane.
Given that the christian name Andrew was quite rare in Co Sligo There is a good chance the above Andrew Quinnane was your ancestor and Ballycummin was your ancestral home. Also, the James Quinan listed in 1858 at Ballycummin was likely to have been a son or grandson of Andrew who remained on the land.
Goos luck,
J.T.A.
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Hi and thanks for replying!
Blimey! Is there any way to find Martin e.g baptism records, birth records
Thanks ;D ;D ;D
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I'm afraid not, The Catholic baptisms for Easky that have survived only commence 1864.
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oh :-\
So there would'nt be any way of getting Patrick (Andrew)'s parents then?
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Patrick, his wife and Irish born children all appear in 1851 at Newcastle as visitor's in the household of Andrew Quanan (sic): as many census returns did not give precise details of relationships there is a good chance that Patrick (Andrew) was in the household of his father Andrew.
You need to appreciate that the majority of Sligo emigrants during that period were Irish speaking with only a limited amount of English which would make it difficult for the enumerators to get everything right. Back in Sligo the Anglo Irish enumerators had interpreters to help them complete the forms.
J.T.A.
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Hi
Yes I once thought that but just pushed that thought aside..
I've found an irish name Cunnane....could this have adapted to Quinnin...???
It has the same phonetic sounds...
Thanks for replying :D
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Yes Cunnane is another alternative spelling, a variant form that has survived: there is no Q in the Irish alphabet.
I have been going through some old notes and have these marriages of interest to you which might lead to further clues.
St Andrews Catholic Chapel, Newcastle: marriage registers.
17th July 1850:
Dennis Gallon of Durham son of Patrick and Catherine Gallon of Durham
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Catherine Costelloe of Wall Knoll daughter of Andrew and Mary Queenan of Wall Knoll
witnessed by: Thomas McMahon of Durham and Mary McGoverin of Mount Pleasant.
NB: The entry suggest Catherine was a widow but the corresponding GRO index gives her name as Catherine Quinan.
Same Church:
5th October 1848:
Michael Fleming of Wall Knoll son of Michael and Mary Fleming of Co Mayo
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Mary Quinan of Wall Knoll daughter of Andrew Quinan and Mary Gallagher of Wall Knoll
witnessed by: Philip Lynch of and Mary Costello both of Wall Knoll.
I know quite a lot about this family. By 1851 Michael Fleming was widower with no recorded children, but by 1853 he had remarried Ann Burt and they had several children including Sarah Fleming who married James (aka Patrick) Queenan son of Martin at Jarrow in 1875. The only indication of James Queenan's Irish origins is a single Census entry which states he was born Killala, Co Mayo. Interestingly the parish of Easky, Co Sligo overlooks Killala Bay. so the two parishes abut each other, albeit with a long stretch of water in between.
I have lots other notes but you probably have most if not all of them already.
J.T.A.
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Thank You
I would be very grateful if you could send me everything you have got
I have the 1851 census and I know in 1853 Martin Queenan married Barbara Coyle who was their next door neighboor in Wall Knoll.
Ooh this is getting exciting!
Thank You
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Could you send it by e-mail if I send you my e-mail address by pm?
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yes, send it by PM.
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Hi there, I hope you get to read this, my great great grand father was martin quinnin, my great grandfather was john Quinnin, my grandfather was james quinnin.
I've recently been doing some research into the family name myself.
the name Quinnin has a few variations but all the Quinnin's are all the same family.
Please feel free to contact me further as I may be able to help you a little.
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Hi Linzi
I'm the one from facebook haha
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never mind then. Although, I'm not sure the change in spelling is relivant, the earliest Quinnin I found was in the early 1800's in ireland who took the name Quinnin along with his wife.
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Who was that then?
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you know the durham village you were talking about, I live on the durham gateshead border.
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it was a john something or other, I'll have to ask my rents again.
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I will give you my e-mail by pm....
It's a lot easier to talk that way. I would be able to give you info I have...
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there's a john quinnin died at war in the early 1800's I think it's the same guy but don't hold me on that.
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I don't think it's one of ours....
I have worked out we are 2nd cousins once removed....I have most of your genealogy.
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aah nice. If you like me, you'll love my brother.... lol.
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haha Have you found the links?
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I have a Margaret Quinenan(sometimes Queenan) who married Patrick Coen in my family tree. Margaret is in the 1901 Irish census married to Patrick Coen and living in Finisklin, County Sligo. From her age in the census record, she was born around 1855. Her sons, Patrick and Bartholomew, and daughter, Delia, came to Philadelphia. I also live in Philadelphia. I have been told Margaret had a bother, Martin, who lived in New Jersey.
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Hello
My Great grandmother was Anna Queenan, born in Sligo about 1837. Not sure about her parents as there could be 3 possibilty?
She married Patrick Whyte about 1856 in Sligo. Cannot find a marriage for her anywere.Anna had 11 children and died in 1922.
Very little info. was given on her death cert.
I live in Sydney,Australia, could someone please help me?
Sandra
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Hello
My Great grandmother was Anna Queenan, born in Sligo about 1837. Not sure about her parents as there could be 3 possibilty?
She married Patrick Whyte about 1856 in Sligo. Cannot find a marriage for her anywere.Anna had 11 children and died in 1922.
Very little info. was given on her death cert.
I live in Sydney,Australia, could someone please help me?
Sandra
The name was almost certainly Queenan, I am familiar with this family as I looked it up many years ago having a distant connection with the Queenans of Co Sligo who first settled at Newcastle and later the Durham coal fields, whilst I noticed your branch moved to North Shields and spread out from there.
I have never been able to establish if the families were actually related. As Quinan is usually pronounced Queenan it is easy to understand why it was sometimes spelt that way.
I may have been in touch with you in the passed on another board and if not it must have been one of your relations who is doing the same research.
Good luck,
J.T.A.
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My family is also Queenan from Co, Sligo although I do not yet have specific details. I have Patrick, born in Sligo (or nearby) in 1814 with father's name also Patrick. The first official record I have is a marriage certificate in Derby England in 1840 to Mary Howard. They are in the 1841 and 1851 census there with several children. Then Patrick disappears with no evident death record. It is believed that he just disappeared as Mary remarried 7 years later. I have good ongoing records, but am looking for the roots in Ireland. I know there are Queenans in Easky area...but as yet cannot be certain that they are the right ones.
Thanks. :)
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Hi There
Sorry about the delay but unfortunately i only have the one Quinnin in my family and therefore i do not know who her parents or siblings were.
Thank you for information as it may be of some help to me at a later date.
ochsenkopf