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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: bargee be lovely on Saturday 29 May 10 15:37 BST (UK)
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Hi all
Am new to this site - still finding out how it works!
I am looking for info on Diggory & Nixon canal boatmen from Toll End, Tipton.
I am connected to quite a few boat families, particularly the Humphries, but I seem to be hitting a dead end with the Diggory's.
Many thanks
Julie
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See this thread. Stuart (shelleyfamilyhist) may be able to help:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=v5f6sqocc3egs33ngplv7sii71&topic=12844.15
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Hi,
Have a look at this website:-
http://boatmen.wix.com/miners (http://boatmen.wix.com/miners) updated link 2019
If you click on families there is both a Humphries and Diggorys section but the Diggorys are being updated so you can't access the information yet. It would be worth contacting the website owner though.
In the photograph section there is a William Diggory.
I think he has had some problems with the website so is rebuilding at the moment.
Luzzu
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Thanks all
I have sent Stuart a message and am just off to the website. I will elt you know how I get on! :)
Many thanks
Julie
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Hi, does anybody have any info on the Wood family.
I have quite alot but i;d like to fill in the gaps.
Thanks
Christy
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Hi Julie
William Diggory b Tipton 1871 who married Sarah Harrison in 1892 is my GG uncle.
If you want any info PM me and I will help where I can.
Cheers
Ginger
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Thomas Brown. If anyone can help I'll be very surprised but also very pleased! Not only was my ancestor a boatman but he was named Brown and married a Smith! Thomas Brown married Dinah Smith in 1803, probably around the Birmingham area. I know about their descendants, but nothing about their previous families.
Di
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Hi
I have hit a brick wall with the boat people at the same time. Many of them at that time worked in the coal industry one way or another and tranferred to the canals when they were built to move the coal around.
Ginger
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Hi Julie
William Diggory b Tipton 1871 who married Sarah Harrison in 1892 is my GG uncle.
If you want any info PM me and I will help where I can.
Cheers
Ginger
Hi Ginger I'm researching my family and William is a GG grandfather. I'm tying to piece the links together can you help?
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Hi All,
I'm looking for help in linking my GG grandfather William Diggory into my slowly expanding tree, can anyone help?
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Hi Bogstd
William married Sarah Harrisonwho is my g x 2 aunt. If you can give me some idea of where you fit into the tree I am sure I can help. PM me if you prefer.
Ginger
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Hi, does anybody have any info on the Wood family.
I have quite alot but i;d like to fill in the gaps.
Thanks
Christy
Hi
Have just spotted your post (delayed reaction!). As above if you can give me a bit more info as to where you fit in I should be able to help.
Ginger
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Hello there,
Sorry, I see this is quite an old post but I notice you say you're connected to a lot of canal families from the Tipton area.. Are you by any chance connected to the Broadfield boatmen from Staffordshire or the Hallfords/Alfords/Orfords from Uxbridge?
Best wishes,
Tansy :)
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Hello Julie
I am from the Harrison boat family i have humphries & nixon connections in my tree
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Hi, does anybody have any info on the Wood family.
I have quite alot but i;d like to fill in the gaps.
Thanks
Christy
hello if you have benjamin wood born 1835 oldridge occupation boatman the lockkeeper married Harriet Harrison then we have a connection
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Hello
I am from the Harrison line of boat people gingernut1 is also in my family tree but my line is closer connected to the humphries & nixons two of my grandads sisters married Humphries
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Hello Dando t
Could your Alford have been connected to Brentford as a couple where baptised at st Lawrence church.uxbridge being not that far from Brentford & this was the church used by boatmen in the area. Alfords also worked for manny (Emanuelle) Smith whos loading wharf was @ Brentford as added intrest my father was born on a canal boat in Black Jacks lock just outside Uxbridge & when my Grandad retired ofFthe cut he settled in West Drayton.Grandad & G Grandad both worked a lot for Manny Smith
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Hi,
I am new to this board and wondered if anybody had any further information relating to the family name of Chew. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The information I have so far is taken from a fantastic article by Bob May and is as follows:
There was a "Charlie "Flimpy" Chew, a boatman, and his family who worked the canals in the Black Country a century ago.There was also a Black Country postcard showing the Chews at Tipton Turn - and with it was a memorial funeral card given to the mourners at Charles Chew's funeral on October 27th 1926 in Bilston. We know now that Jabez Chew (b 1849 in Audlem, Cheshire) married Mary Boulter (b 1853 in Whitchurch) in 1871. In 1871 census he was described as a 'horse driver and vessel collector' - therefore a boating man, and they had a large family starting with: Charles Boulter Chew (our 'Flimpy') (b March 1877) and was given his mother's maiden name as his middle name which was quite common at that time: then followed Cornelius and Eliza Ann (twins), Ernest, Jabez, Isaiah, William, Jane, Elizabeth and Ambrose (who died young) over the next decade.
We discovered from records that the Chews' younger daughter Violet married a George H Hollingshead in Wolverhampton in 1921.
All the best
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Duplicated posts here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558273.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558270.0.html
Dawn
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The Hollingshead are a large family of canal people their tree links with Bannister,Bunn,Green,Wood,Meaney (on this Forum)James,Wenlock to name a few all are canal boat familys
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Hello
I am from the Harrison line of boat people gingernut1 is also in my family tree but my line is closer connected to the humphries & nixons two of my grandads sisters married Humphries
[/hi jane ....this is my first day on the site . I am starting to research my mum's side,she was doris Nixon daughter of jim Nixon who settled in long buckby any help would be appreciated thanks peter
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Hello Peter
Welcome to Roots Chat
Is that the Jim Nixon who was brother to Ben (Benny) son to Eli & Lizzie
if so then I have photos of Jim & some family members most given to me by Aunty Violet (wife of Benny) this also includes her wedding album.my full name is Jeannette but I use jane on here as there is already 2 x Jeannette smith
Jeannette
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Hello Peter
Welcome to Roots Chat
Is that the Jim Nixon who was brother to Ben (Benny) son to Eli & Lizzie
if so then I have photos of Jim & some family members most given to me by Aunty Violet (wife of Benny) this also includes her wedding album.my full name is Jeannette but I use jane on here as there is already 2 x Jeannette smith
Jeannette
hi Jeanette thanks for getting back to me. spoken to my mum this morning she tells me her dad was jim Nixon brother to eddie sid frank matilda and eli, and that her granddad(jim's dad) was called ben. jim was married to sarah Humphries who's siblings were harriet doris and mary.do you know the name of ben's
wife?also I would be interested in any photos you may have.....thanks peter
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Hello Peter
one more posting & then you can use the personal messaging service & I will send some photos.
Jims Dad Benjamin Slater Nixon married a Jane Creswell. Eli Slater Nixon Jims Brother had a son also called Benjamin Slater Nixon he was known as benny.I spoke to bennys daughter today & told her I was in contact with you. what area do you live in ??
Jeannette
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Hello Peter
one more posting & then you can use the personal messaging service & I will send some photos.
Jims Dad Benjamin Slater Nixon married a Jane Creswell. Eli Slater Nixon Jims Brother had a son also called Benjamin Slater Nixon he was known as benny.I spoke to bennys daughter today & told her I was in contact with you. what area do you live in ??
Jeannette
hi Jeannette thanks for the info.have you any idea where Benjamin originated from? I can remember eli from when I was a kid visiting my granddad(jim) in buckby. of course eli was always uncle eli to my mum,i can remember her uncle frank and uncle eddie as well.i live in west wales at the moment but am going up to see my mum after xmas will take the laptop and scanner with me as she has loads of photos........thanks peter
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Hello Peter
one more posting & then you can use the personal messaging service & I will send some photos.
Jims Dad Benjamin Slater Nixon married a Jane Creswell. Eli Slater Nixon Jims Brother had a son also called Benjamin Slater Nixon he was known as benny.I spoke to bennys daughter today & told her I was in contact with you. what area do you live in ??
Jeannette
hi Jeannette thanks for the info.have you any idea where Benjamin originated from? I can remember eli from when I was a kid visiting my granddad(jim) in buckby. of course eli was always uncle eli to my mum,i can remember her uncle frank and uncle eddie as well.i live in west wales at the moment but am going up to see my mum after xmas will take the laptop and scanner with me as she has loads of photos........thanks peter
Have sent you a personal message Peter
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Hello Peter have sent you a message on the private message system just click on My Messages & you should get my e mail address
Jeannette
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Hello Jane
I have just come across this site. Isabella Cresswell was my grandma and she was the sister of Jane
Cresswell who married Benjamin Slater Nixon. Isabella Cresswell married John Palin. John Palins brother Thomas Palin married Eliza Slater Nixon May 30th1898 at Alrewas Staffordshire. Elizabeth
Palin married Edward Slater Nixon on the same date. Do you have any information about the Palins?
Chris
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Hello Jane
I have just come across this site. Isabella Cresswell was my grandma and she was the sister of Jane
Cresswell who married Benjamin Slater Nixon. Isabella Cresswell married John Palin. John Palins brother Thomas Palin married Eliza Slater Nixon May 30th1898 at Alrewas Staffordshire. Elizabeth
Palin married Edward Slater Nixon on the same date. Do you have any information about the Palins?
Chris
sorry cant remember who sent me this photo so can not attatch credits to it
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My father is Bill on this photo. I think I have found Thomas Palin b.1851 on a Palins family tree posted on Rootschat. He is at Canal Cottage, Leton Bridge, Little Leigh, Northwich, Cheshire, a parish of Great Budworth. He is on the 1861 census with parents Thomas and Margrat Palin. On the family tree she is Margaret Wood. They have ten children Joseph, James, Thomas, William, Mary, John, Elizabeth, Samuel, Henry and Margaret.
Isabella Cresswells parents were James Cresswell b.17th Jan 1854 Littles Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire and Ann Matilda Guest. They were married 21st May 1877 at St. Paul's, Tipton, Staffordshire. James Cresswells parents were John Cresswell and Jane Horton married 3rd Oct 1847 at Saint Matthews, Walsall, Staffordshire.
Thanks for sending the photo.
chris
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I have a boat inspection record for a William Palin = 17th Sept 1896 on board a boat named Pirate reg @Birmingham no 900 owners listed as Fellows Morton & Clayton reg for 4 adults & occupied by 4 men
wm Palin is reg as the master .
also have some for Paling wonder if they could be your folks
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PIRATE was one of the Morton & Clayton Steamers. Millners records have it recorded as several of my Manders boatmen being steerers at one time paired with butty china from 20.5.1890 till 14.3.1896 it was used as a fly boat then William Palin had her around 17.9.1896 til l9.1900
she then went into dock for a new boiler to be fitted documents on file say 5.4.1891 census on grand junction canal 14.9. 1894 she was gauged @ the port of London. She was broken up prior to 18.12.1931
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My Granddad John Palin worked for Fellows and Morton. My Dad was born on a boat called 'The Maple'. It is quite likely that Paling or Pailing are my folks. Gran & Granddad could not read or write and ages and names would alter. What are Milners records?
I have found a census for 1881 at Canal Sutton, Macclesfield, Cheshire. It has William Pailing b.1853 Little Leigh, Cheshire. His wife Mary has the wrong age b.1843 instead of b.1850 at Tunstall, Staffordshire. His children are Mary W b.1872 Birmingham, Margaret b.1877 Derby, Elizabeth b.1880 Derby and Stephen b.1881 Runcorn, Cheshire. I also found a marriage 31st Mar 1873 at Acton Trussell, Stafford for William Palin father Thomas Palin Labourer and Mary Willcocks a widow father James Turner Boatman. On the 1911 census they have a niece Mary Turner b.1887 Walsall, Stafford so this links up.
My Grandparents John & Isabella Palin had a cottage by the canal at Weston, Stafford. It used to be called Weston-on-Trent. Nearby there was a family of Hollinsheads and I think they were cousins to my Dad. Are these your folks?
Jane Nixon's sister Harriet Cresswell m. John Green father Henry Green 9th Mar 1901 St Michaels, Brierley Hill, Dudley. I noticed there was Green in your family line.
The other Cresswells are Phoebe Cresswell m. Edwin Beckett, Selina Oram Cresswell m. John Hodson White, second husband Selina Oram White m. Harry Redwood, Florence Cresswell m. Benjamin Goode, Elizabeth Cresswell m. Thomas Jones known as Tom Coffee, James Cresswell m. Charlotte Evans.
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Cabell
I need to make time & study all this as we seem to have connections in many boating names but then that is not uncommon as the boatmen where a community unto themselves prio to the 11 WW hardly ever mixing with bank people unless it was needed to even when they retired they settled in groups.
Greens are also connected. Many of the Green boatmen are buried in the Boatmans cemetery @ Braunston I was raised with a lot of the old boatmans ways & traditions
My parents & grandparent
's not being able to read or write my Grandad would collect newspapers ect & sit me down to read them to him( I can still see the pride in his eyes some 50 odd years later) he would tell folks our girl is learned she knows her letters .
The one that I remember best is I crumpled 2 pages of newspaper that I read to him after I said Grandad that smells of Viniger his reply was it will do girl it had me supper in it last night.
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Google Thomas W Millner Canal Manager 1895-1930 & then G oogle Buckby steamers
this should help explain Cabell.
have just dug out of a box of paperwork still waiting to be filed some baptism records for John also called Joshua & Minnie's children surname Palin,palin & Paling given but I am sure they are the same siblings as they all give the same address a James Mander he married my GG Grandads sister Judith Harrison & her address is on the records as they often needed to give a land address & they lived in the joining road to the church.
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Hi Jane,
Jane Nixon/Creswell seems to be on a different part of the canals as she lived at Long Buckby, Northampton. Most of the family seem to be in the Cheshire, Staffordshire areas. I have not come across Braunston but would still be interested in the Palin & Paling information. My Auntie Elsie said
that we had relatives up and down the canals and it seems to be true.
Cabell
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Cabell,
Harriett Cresswell's Husband John Green was the brother of my 2x Great grandmother Maria Green who married Henry James.
Ali
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I'm a bit late in the conversation but my mum was a Nixon now a croxford her mum was a Nixon(Gladys Irene Nixon)her dad was sam franks as her mum remarried from the Nixon family and my granddad was a Beresford (George beresford) I am trying to make a family tree can any body help
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It is a long while since I was on this site so I do not know what you are answering but I can give you the Nixon connections in my family.
My Grandparents were John Palin b.1879 Tunstall, Staffordhire & Isabella Cresswell. My Gran's sister was Jane Cresswell and she married Benjamin Slater Nixon on 7th Jun 1897, Parish Church, Alrewas, Staffordshire. They had 11 sons and 1 daughter Ann Matilda Jane. Sons names Eli, Jim, Bill, Frank, Elijah, Charles, Edwin & Edmund. 3 sons died. They lived in the Northampton area but I did not track them any further.
Elizabeth Palin married Edward Slater Nixon b. 18 Aug 1878 & Thomas Palin married Eliza Slater Nixon on 30th May 1898, Parish Church, Alrewas, Staffordshire. It was a double marriage. Thomas & Elizabeth Palin were my Grandad's brother & sister. Edward Slater Nixon & Elizabeth Palin's children were Emily Slater Nixon, Ethel Slater Nixon & Cyril Nixon. There may be more children.
Ellen Slater Nixon married David Wood 19th Oct 1891 St Mary's, Tunstall, Staffordhire. David Wood related to my Gt. Grandma Hannah Wood b. abt. 1851 West Bromwich, Staffs.
The Nixon tree is William Nixon & Sophia Slater married 16th Mar 1852 , Parish Church, Tettenhall, Staffordshire.
Edwin Nixon Slater & Emma Wilkes married 17th May 1873, St. Mary's, Stafford. Their children became Slater Nixon's.
Ellen Slater Nixon b. abt. 1874 Penkridge, Staffordshire, Benjamin Slater Nixon b. abt. 1876 Manchester, Edward Slater Nixon b. 18th Aug 1878, Preston Brook Cheshire, Eliza Slater Nixon b. abt. 1880 Preston Brook, Cheshire, Emily Slater Nixon b. abt. 1885 Wolverhampton and Mary Jane Slater Nixon b. abt. 1888 Shardlow, Derbyshire.
The canal route went from Ellesmere Port, threw Cheshire & Staffordshire and on to Derby & Nottingham.
It may not link up with your tree but they were a closed community marrying other canal boat families.
Good Luck finding your Nixon family tree.
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It is a long while since I was on this site so I do not know what you are answering but I can give you the Nixon connections in my family.
My Grandparents were John Palin b.1879 Tunstall, Staffordhire & Isabella Cresswell. My Gran's sister was Jane Cresswell and she married Benjamin Slater Nixon on 7th Jun 1897, Parish Church, Alrewas, Staffordshire. They had 11 sons and 1 daughter Ann Matilda Jane. Sons names Eli, Jim, Bill, Frank, Elijah, Charles, Edwin & Edmund. 3 sons died. They lived in the Northampton area but I did not track them any further.
Elizabeth Palin married Edward Slater Nixon b. 18 Aug 1878 & Thomas Palin married Eliza Slater Nixon on 30th May 1898, Parish Church, Alrewas, Staffordshire. It was a double marriage. Thomas & Elizabeth Palin were my Grandad's brother & sister. Edward Slater Nixon & Elizabeth Palin's children were Emily Slater Nixon, Ethel Slater Nixon & Cyril Nixon. There may be more children.
Ellen Slater Nixon married David Wood 19th Oct 1891 St Mary's, Tunstall, Staffordhire. David Wood related to my Gt. Grandma Hannah Wood b. abt. 1851 West Bromwich, Staffs.
The Nixon tree is William Nixon & Sophia Slater married 16th Mar 1852 , Parish Church, Tettenhall, Staffordshire.
Edwin Nixon Slater & Emma Wilkes married 17th May 1873, St. Mary's, Stafford. Their children became Slater Nixon's.
Ellen Slater Nixon b. abt. 1874 Penkridge, Staffordshire, Benjamin Slater Nixon b. abt. 1876 Manchester, Edward Slater Nixon b. 18th Aug 1878, Preston Brook Cheshire, Eliza Slater Nixon b. abt. 1880 Preston Brook, Cheshire, Emily Slater Nixon b. abt. 1885 Wolverhampton and Mary Jane Slater Nixon b. abt. 1888 Shardlow, Derbyshire.
The canal route went from Ellesmere Port, threw Cheshire & Staffordshire and on to Derby & Nottingham.
It may not link up with your tree but they were a closed community marrying other canal boat families.
Good Luck finding your Nixon family tree.
Charlie Slater-Nixon was my grandad.
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Hi, I started to research my family some years ago... but had a hiatus that stopped everything, I'm now looking to start again, my Grandfather was a Diggory :)
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Hi There,
I am new to this site and firstly would like to thank cabell for the information. It was a very interesting read. I am a Great-Grandson of Ethel Slater-Nixon and the information there has helped a lot with my family tree. I was wondering if anyone had any pictures of Ethel Slater-Nixon or her parents Edward Slater Nixon and Elizabeth Palin at all.
Regards
Gaz
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Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and I am hoping somebody on here may be able to help me. I am trying to trace my boating/bargee family who were the Benton's. I am only able to go back as far as Samuel Benton (b 1786) - his son Frederick (b. 1815) was also boatman and "boatowner" and in the 1871 census is moored in the parish of Stockton on the Warwick and Napton Canal in a boat that appears to read as Emscote (difficult to read!). Samuel was baptised at All Saints in Leamington Priors, not far from the Saltisford Arm of the Grand Union canal where they appear to be based. I have also found the family at Frazeley Street on the Grand Union in Birmingham. Any help would be really appreciated, thank you.
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Hello
iI have a little info on the 2 x Benton boating people but you would need to figure out if they are your people of the other Benton's
first of all was your Samuel married to Emma ? & did one of your Benton women drown in Griffin's pound ? are you connected to te Cotton & Holdback boating people ?
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Thank you so much for your speedy reply! My Samuel was married to Rebecca (nee Philips). He had lots of children but only 3 survived to adulthood. They were Samuel b 1811 (who married Mary Ann) , George b 1827 and Frederick (my direct ancestor) b 1815. Frederick who was on board the Emscote? Stockton in 1871. At this point in time, I have not discovered any information of any drownings, as I have only recently found out about my ancestry we had no idea they were boating people! I am desperately trying to put meat on the bones and have found no connections yet to the other families you mentioned.
Frederick did have lots of children, they are George, Thomas, Frederick, Sarah, Edwin, James, Charles, Alfred, Noah, Reuben, Albert, Alice and my direct ancestor, Eli. Through Eli there is a direct connection to a William Savage, who's daughter Mary Ann married Eli, daughter. He was also at Saltisford in the 1861 census as a collar maker. They appear to be very much based around Saltisford Canal and Birmingham.
I hope you can make a connection for me! Thank you!