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Seeking the family of Thomas Dignum and Catherine Weldon childre were John, Thomas Laurence Mary, Alice and Kitty from Drogheda Co Louth Ireland
Does anyone know any knowledge of this family
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Dates?
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The dates for these Dignans are Thomas Dignan married Catherine Weldon about 1870.
JOhn born in 1871
Thomas born in 1873
Laurence Born in 1876
Alice Born in 1878
Kate Born in 1882
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Did they stay in ireland or move to England? Where were these children born?
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The children were born in Ireland Drogheda co louth
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Perhaps we might be able to help if we knew what you were looking for. If the family stayed in Ireland have you searched free online resources such as 1901 and 1911 Irish census, civil registration index, etc.?
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I checked out the census the Parents died before 1901 so its very diffcult and nobody in my family wanted to talk about it
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Some of the family are in 1901 census together so you've either not searched there yet or haven't told us you have this information. Still not entirely clear what you've found and what you want to find.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Westgate__Drogheda_No__3_/Platin_Road/1569386/
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I found the 1901 census but the 1911 census there is no trace of them
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It's still not clear what you are looking for except perhaps the family in 1911 census.
Going back to the start, the details you've posted aren't quite accurate. IGI (www.familysearch.org) lists:
1. John DIGNUM born 24 Aug.1871 Co. Meath
2. Thomas DIGNUM born 19 Sept.1873 Co. Meath
3. Laurence DIGNUM born 24 Feb.1876 Co. Meath (mother Kate)
4. Mary Agnes DIGNUM born 11 Aug.1878 Co. Meath
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One of the extracted records (for John Dignum 1871) on familysearch states the parish of birth to be St. Mary's, Co. Meath. Although the RC parish is in County Meath it borders county Louth and covers at least part of the town of Drogheda.
The town was (and apparently still is) split between two diocese Armagh and Meath with section in each county. Originally these sections of the town were named 'Drogheda-in-Meath' and 'Drogheda-in-Oriel' (i.e. Louth)
see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drogheda
Shane
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Is this your relation
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Hi found a death record for Catherine Dignam she died 26 January 1886 in the workhouse in Drogheda. I am wondering is there any workhouse records. It says she was married maybe the husband might have re married
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I dont know any details on surviving Workhouse records for Drogheda, but presume that the local library would be the place to check first.
There's a possible marriage in the right area, and at around the right time, on the Civil BMD Index for Catherine :
Name: Catherine Weldon
Registration District: Ardee
Event Type: Marriage
Year: 1870
Volume : 7 / page : 373
(The registration district of Ardee is based in Co. Louth, and not far from Drogheda )
I dont see any cross-match to Thomas, but maybe his name was mis-transcribed. Given that the name Catherine Weldon is quite unusual, I'd say there's a reasonable chance that she's your Catherine.
Based on the extracted record details that aghadowey mentioned for the children - these are the references required to order a cert for Laurence, in case you wish to order a cert to see the full details :
Name: Laurence Dignum
Registration District: Drogheda
Event Type: Birth
Year: 1876
Volume : 2 / page : 558
see the topic Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) for details on searching the BMD Index, ordering certs etc
Shane
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Hi i have tryed everything looking for that cert for THomas Dignam and Catherine Weldon but had no luck so just going with what i have. I think they married some other country or it could have been a mixed marriage
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have you tried ordering that marriage cert mentioned above for Catherine Weldon to see if it's the correct one ?
Shane
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Its a different name on it my uncle was in touch with the Church in Ardee
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Hi i tryed everything. I think the records for the marriages in St Marys In dROGHEDA MUST HAVE BEEN DESTROYED in the custom house in 1921 the records for marriages before 1870.
I found a death cert for Thomas Dignam for Oct 1885 it says he was a Bachelor. And his wife died two months later in the Work House buaryt says on her death cert she was Married. She died the 26 of January 1886. Does anyone know what this means. Cause of Death: GASTRALGIA 3 MONTHS
PERITONITIS 7 DAYS CERTIFIED.
On her death cert it dosent give her husbands name it just says Informant
Graveyard: Relationship: Householder
Parish: Name: Henry Duffy*
County: Address: Drogheda Workhouse
The same with this other death cert below.
Civil Death Record
Name: Margaret Dignan Date of Death: 15-Mar-1886
Age: 2 Months Parish / District: ST. MARYS
Address: Workhouse County: Co. Meath
Status: Not Married Denomination: Civil Record
Occupation: NO OCCUPATION Sex: Female
Graveyard Informant
Graveyard: Relationship: Householder
Parish: Name: Henry Duffy*
County: Address: Drogheda Workhouse
Notes:
I am thinking since the father is not present at death for Margaret his daughter it must be him that died in 1885. Could be this a case that they arnt married or it was just a mistake on Catherines death cert it said married not widow
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Civil Death Record
John Dignam, 17 Jan.1886 age 15
Parish / District: ST. MARYS
Address: Black Butt Lane County: Co. Meath
Not Married, Occupation: DROVER, Sex: Male
Informant Thomas Dignam, Black Butt Lane, Father
Just after getting his sons death cert the father is still alive after 1886 that other Thomas is differetn
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Here is the new website for Dignam,Duignan and Dignan and any other way you can spell the name i have started with Louth and Meath. If you interesed in adding yoru family to it email me
http://dignamireland.vacau.com/dignam/index.html
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http://dignamdrogheda.comoj.com/dignam%20website/
Can anyone help trying to fidn a marriage cert for Alice Dignam or a death cert in ireland for alice dignam she came from Drogheda i have the websit elink above which gives all the details. Is there any way i can get a 1926 cenus for ireland
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The 1926 census is not available-
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2011/04/publication-of-1926-irish-census-to-proceed-despite-required-legal-shift.html
You have had numerous posts repeatedly asking for details of Alice Dignam- below are just a few of them:
Dignam Duignan Dignan (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558656.msg3144666.html#msg3144666) (Beginners)
Duignan/Deignan/Dignam (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,451905.msg3144656.html#msg3144656) (Meath)
Track down someone (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,476193.msg3354953.html#msg3354953) (Louth)
Census Look Ups (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,535564.msg3896011.html#msg3896011)
Dignam Drogheda and Kent (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,541618.msg3952756.html#msg3952756) (Beginners)
Alice Dignam (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,548081.msg3990343.html#msg3990343) (Beginners)- locked
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Can anyone help trying to fidn a marriage cert for Alice Dignam....for alice dignam she came from Drogheda i have the websit elink above which gives all the details.
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you would need some clues as to where/when or who your Alice married - otherwise it's just pot luck with marriage cert orders, to see if you can find a possible match to her father's name and occupation.
The only Alice Dignam marriage in the Drogheda area after 1901 seems to late as it's in 1946 .. see : Alice Dignam, marriages (https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aalice~%20%2Bsurname%3Adignam~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1901-1958~&collection_id=1408347) (BMD Index on FamilySearch)
Shane
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I know she was baptised in 1878 in st marys Drogheda and them her final siting was 1901 census plattin road drogheda and then in 1905 she lived in plattin road her eis my website below with more details baout her regarding Iowa i think she might have went there as her uncle John was in Iowa but not sure
http://dignamdrogheda.comoj.com/dignam%20website/
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Hi Alice Dignam women im looking for and she is very hard to track down. I have asked someone over 90 and they have never hard of her but knew her brother Laruence that passed in 1941. She must have dissapeared or if she died in Drogheda her death cert wasnt registered. But everyone in the familys death cert was registered. Do you think people know her or just dont watn to talk about mothers having children out of wedlock or she could have emgragted but there is no trace of her leaving the country does anyone have any ideas on how to find this women
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Hi I was wondering could this be Alice Dignam Death Cert
Name: Alice Durnin
Registration District: Drogheda
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter and Year: Jul - Sep 1928
Estimated Birth Year: 1878
Age (at Death): 50
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 185
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Did you ever get the 1909 death certificate listed on this thread?
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558656
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yes got that dosent match up i think its wrong the name could have been changed to a different spelling
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What do you mean "dosent match up i think its wrong the name could have been changed to a different spelling"? what are the details from the 1909 death certificate?
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Name: Thomas Tiernan
Registration District: Drogeda
Event Type: Death
Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1898
Age: 85 (est. year of birth 1813)
Volume: 2 / Page: 365
Could be alices Dignams Father
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Name: Thomas Donegan
Registration District: Drogeda
Event Type: Death
Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1897
Age : 97 (est. year of birth 1800 )
Volume:2 / Page: 363
Could be Alices Father Donegan could be Dignam but spelt differently
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This is the 1909 death quoted in other thread-
DeathL Agnes Dignam (age 28) Apr - Jun 1909 Naas registration district, volume 2 page 632
Did you get the certificate?
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Yes got it it sayd on it she was married i think its a different one
(Transcript cert.)
Name : Agnes Dignam
Date of Death : 24 May 1901
Age : 28
Civil Status : Married
Former Residence : from Naas
Place of Death : Workhouse Naas
Cause of death & duration of Illness : Eutric Fever 21 days
Pneumonia 3 days - certified
Informant : John Shiel, occupier, Workhouse Naas
Moderator Note : Images of Full certs are not permitted.
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My next project after tommorows luck at the register office if the two death certs arnt right i will try marriage certs for England
Mary Dignam 1914
Mary Dignam 1913
Mary Dignam 1918
These three are the closed to it other than that the death cert wasnt resgisterd
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Hi I was wondering is this Alice Dignam she was born as Mary Agnes Dignam and she was a Linen Winder on the 1901 census but no trace of marriage cert
Harford, Co. Louth - 1901 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=Harford&firstname=&county=Louth&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=)
Moderator Note - link shrunk
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New Info has come to light regarding the 1911 English Census regarding Alice Dignam. Found her in Liverpool.
She married a Taylor abotu 1908. And i was wondering can anyone help me find her marriage cert and her childrens names
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What was the husband's first name(s)?
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I Think its John
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New Info has come to light regarding the 1911 English Census regarding Alice Dignam. Found her in Liverpool.
She married a Taylor abotu 1908. And i was wondering can anyone help me find her marriage cert and her childrens names
what clues do you have to suggest that this Alice Taylor is your Alice/Agnes Dignam ?
S.
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She is on the 1911 english census as Alice M Taylor in Liverpool
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are there any children with her at that time, if so where were they born ?
S.
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What do you mean "I Think its John"- it this another guess or do you have more details not posted yet?
I have checked Irish civil registration index, FreeBMD and Lancashire BMD and can find no marriage between a Taylor (any first name) to an Alice with a surname anything like Dignam.
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Census for Alice M Taylor for 1911 Its signed Alice Mary Taylor and she was born in Drogheda. I think she married abotu 1908 or 1909 in Liverpool
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She may have spelted her surname Duignan or called her self Mary Duignan or a different surname
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Please pay attention- I have searched for a Taylor marriage in both England and Ireland and cannot see anything like Dignum for the bride.
From finding the census entry how do you get her husband's first name as John?
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There is a Liverpool marriage-1909 for John Taylor and Alice M Walsh.
This seems the likely one for the census.
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I found a Duignan married a John Taylor about 1908 on free bmd.co.uk
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I found a Duignan married a John Taylor about 1908 on free bmd.co.uk
'about 1908'? the index on FreeBMD should narrow it down to the exact quarter as well as bride's first name and other details. I can find no such marriage using the site.
There is a Liverpool marriage-1909 for John Taylor and Alice M Walsh.
This seems the likely one for the census.
FreeBMD shows bride as Alice Mary Walsh.
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There might be a problem with the free bmd website its very slow. I found it before and it came up and I also found Children for her but cant remember there names there was a Taylor born in 1915 with mothers madiam name Dignam I will look during the week and see if the website gets fixed
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The site has been working fine for me this evening- goodness knows I've done enough searches for this thread- and a new search for children named Taylor with mother Dignum also gets 0 results.
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There might be a problem with the free bmd website its very slow. I found it before and it came up and I also found Children for her but cant remember there names there was a Taylor born in 1915 with mothers madiam name Dignam I will look during the week and see if the website gets fixed
If you find possible matches on FreeBMD it would be a good idea to take note of all the details included i.e. name, year/quarter, registration district, volume and page - a) because you will need these to order any certs from GRO UK, and b) so that people can try to help you follow up on these details - e.g. check if the district fits the locations you are interested in etc....
Shane
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Found the family
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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your link is to the FreeBMD home page - so doesn't show any relevant details
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Births Mar 1916
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Taylor Dorothy E Dignum Wandsworth 1d 1047
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Births Jun 1920
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Taylor Female Dignum Wandsworth 1d 1284
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Births Jun 1921
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TAYLOR Thomas F Dignum Wandsworth 1d 1111
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Births Jun 1922
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Taylor Mabel K Dignum Wandsworth 1d 1074
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Wandsworth district is in Greater London, and some distance from Liverpool - but if you think these are possibilities then the best way to check the details of the parents is to order one of the certs from GRO UK.
Shane
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Yes thats it the problem im having is the way the surname Dignam is spelt i think im on the right track
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there's a likely marriage for an Alice Dignum and a Tom Taylor in Wandsworth in 1915 - so doesn't fit that other Alice in Liverpool
Quarter/Year : Jun 1915
Registration District : Wandsworth
Volume : 1d / Page : 1386
Alice Dignum
Tom Taylor
Shane
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You really will need to order some certificates but none of those are for a 1915 birth you earlier said existed.
FreeBMD has a marriage for the likely parents of those children: Alice Dignum & Tom Taylor Wandsworth registration district Apr./June 1915 volume 1d page 1386. It might be better to order this certificate first to see Alice's details (father's name and occupation especially) to see if this is the correct Alice. However, the marriage is well after the 1911 census.
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Very true. The only think i can think of she married twice. But Im happy with what i have now
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If she married twice? A second marriage would have been recorded with her surname (i.e. that of her second husband) not her maiden name.
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yes thats true. I have enough done on ths side of the family unless she went back to Ireland thats the other thing
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Who is the head of the Church of England that has all the records for every church in England
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For those that have been following this topic and are still interested......
Marriage St Pauls Church, Clapham 3 April 1915
Tom Taylor, 22, bachelor, Gas works attendant, of 18 Radleigh Street, father Mark Henry Taylor (deceased) Plumber
Alice Dignum, 21, spinster, of 18 Radleigh Strett, father James Dignum (deceased) Chimney Sweep
Dawn
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I was wondering is there another Alice Dignum married a Taylor about 1908 in Manchester
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You can search for a marriage yourself-
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
However, this subject was covered earlier in this thread so I'm not sure why you are asking again.
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Hi I was wondering could this be Alice Dignam she was born in 1878 in Drogheda and i found her in Rhonde Island in America on the 1910 census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MPXQ-GHV
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Mary A. Deignan was born in Rhode Island not Ireland.
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That could be a mistake as one of the neighbours said some of the family went to America thats why there is no trace of them there is prob some recors that artn online so I might have to wait a few years for them to appear
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Thomas Deignan supposed to have arrived in US in 1851-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MPXQ-GHJ
Here in 1900 with wife Eliza-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M97R-PP9
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Thanks thats that one ilminited im not really pushed on it as much as i used to be so i will just wait till someone thats related to the family searches the name
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Next time perhaps check further before posting- all the information I posted is readily available on www.familysearch.org.
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Dignam Family Website Link
http://dignamdrogheda.comoj.com/dignam%20website/
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New info on Alice dig am. I was talking to an 90year old women she said she remembered her coming home from england to her brothers funeral in the early 1940s. She went to england. I wonder is there any ship records for 1941 fro. Ireland to england or passport records to england for 1941. Or would the English embassy have her on file. I found a marriage for a Mary a dignum in 1917 and 1913 it might be her
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No records were/are kept of people travelling between Ireland and England, Scotland, Wales.
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No records were/are kept of people travelling between Ireland and England, Scotland, Wales.
the only thing is to find her marriage cert
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Hi I came accords this marriage on free bmd.co.uk this might be the one good luck in your search
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl