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Title: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 05 June 10 15:58 BST (UK)
Wondering if anyone can help though some light on a Dublin photo we have from my grandad. There are nine people, politicians (Cumann na nGaedhael), a priest, a bishop, and two army men.

Their names are written on the back but I cant read three of them clearly. I've included a section of the photo and a scan of the names.

Any ideas on the missing names, the approx date, and the reason why these people were all photographed together ?

My guess as to the timeframe is some time between the beginning of 1922 and August that year - based on Arthur Griffith being present (he died in August) and Paddy Hogan being in the photo as he was minister for Land and Agriculture from 1922.


thanks,


Shane

p.s the other names are Paddy Hogan, Ignatius O'Neill, Kevin O'Higgins, Arthur Griffith, Dr. Fogarty (Bishop of Killaloe) & Sean Mac Eoin

Update - people confirmed :  A = Cannon William [O']Kennedy, B = Sean Milroy T.D.
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: mrwilson on Saturday 05 June 10 16:27 BST (UK)
Perhaps something to do with an amnesty post IRA uprising?
Sinn Féin party?

If it's the same fellows...
Dr. Fogarty Bishop of Killaloe often critical of the actions of the I.R.A. was associated with the moderate section of the Sinn Fein party and Dail Eireann.
http://www.warofindependence.net/?page_id=225

Ignatius O'Neill - IRA Comdt

Kevin O'Higgins was assassinated by the IRA in 1927 - was Free State Minister for Justice.
http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/archive/index.php/t-2354-p-2.html

A few of the names are indexed here... http://www.military.ie/dfhq/archives/documents/The%20Bureau%20of%20Military%20History1913-1921%20Index%20to%20Contributors.pdf


My guesses

A - Cameron Kennedy
B - Sean Miley
C- Micheal Breanna

1921
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: siledee on Saturday 05 June 10 17:53 BST (UK)
I think a) Cannon (should be Canon) Kennedy
            b) Sean Milroy
            c) Michael Breanna (possibly should be Brennan)
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 05 June 10 19:45 BST (UK)
thanks for the suggestions...I'll have a look for the names you mentioned to see if anything further shows up.

Three of the people in the photo are easily recognizable and I have the usual details on them - Arthur Griffith, Kevin O'Higgins and Paddy Hogan. I believe the Dr. (bishop) Fogarty is the one who gave interviews to newspapers on various topics such as the Rising & the death of Michael Collins etc.

All I've found out on the others so far is that Ignatius O'Neill was involved in the War of Independence (Rineen ambush 1920) and that Sean Mac Eoin was a senior officer in the Free state army (he and Michael Brennan are in uniform in the photo), and he also seconded Arthur Griffith's motion in the Dail that the Treaty be accepted.

I've no idea who he is yet but for some reason the person labeled 'B' (Sean Miley/Milroy..) looks like an interesting and important character ..


Shane
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: mrwilson on Sunday 06 June 10 00:54 BST (UK)
Sean Milroy - was elected a Sinn Féin Teachta Dála (TD) at the 1921 elections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_Milroy
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: siledee on Sunday 06 June 10 01:33 BST (UK)
And here is a bit about Cannon Kennedy.
http://www.oliverkane.com/arebelchurchman.html
There's even a picture for you to compare.
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 06 June 10 10:12 BST (UK)
And here is a bit about Cannon Kennedy.
http://www.oliverkane.com/arebelchurchman.html
There's even a picture for you to compare.

thanks for that ... the photo on that site confirms it's the same person.


Shane
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 06 June 10 10:13 BST (UK)
Sean Milroy - was elected a Sinn Féin Teachta Dála (TD) at the 1921 elections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_Milroy

looks like another match.. he's a treaty supporter so fit's with others

his surname looked a bit like Miley to me .. never thought of Milroy as a surname

thank you



Shane
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: mrwilson on Sunday 06 June 10 11:00 BST (UK)
a Sinn Fein Standing Committee 1922 group pic with Sean Milroy and Arthur Griffiths with the infamous Eamon De Valera.
http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/BE065091.html
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: Alma on Saturday 23 April 16 01:10 BST (UK)
1920s Photograph

I am interested in one of the gentlemen in the photo - Ignatius O'Neill - I wonder where I am able to obtain a copy of the photograph.  My links are in County Clare.   

With thanks

Alma
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: Snolan18 on Thursday 19 October 17 04:34 BST (UK)
I am also very interested in Ignatius O'Neill.  He fought with my ancestors in County Clare.  is there any way you could share the full photograph? It would be very much appreciated.  Sarah
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: chinapaddy on Thursday 07 December 17 12:40 GMT (UK)
the photo is on the Military Archives website

Glass plate copy negative of a group portrait containing military officers, TDs and members of the clergy taken in front of a building. The front row, seated, include from left to right Kevin O'Higgins, Arthur Griffith, Dr. Fogarty (Bishop of Killaloe). Men standing in the back row include Paddy Hogan, Canon William O' Kennedy, Ignatius O'Neill, Sean Milroy and Michael [Breana or Brennan].

you can see the 'thumbnail'... but clicking to view the photo gives an error message :o

"Critical error
There was an error while processing a database query"
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: chinapaddy on Wednesday 15 June 22 09:10 BST (UK)
Group Portrait Including Kevin O' Higgins, Sean Mac Eoin and Arthur Griffith

https://www.militaryarchives.ie/gallery/displayimage.php?album=109&pid=267
Title: Re: Dublin 1920s Photo
Post by: Alma on Wednesday 15 June 22 09:58 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link to the photo, Chinapaddy - really appreciated