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Looking for links to Gilder Family who lived in Beaconsfield. John Gilder had a son Edward who came to NZ about 1860. Little is known about life prior.
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Is that the Beaconsfield in Buckinghamshire?
Can you clarify your Subject Re: Beaconsfield, John Gilder,1850
1850 cannot be his birthyear if Edward went to NZ in 1860
When was Edward born? Was he born in Buckinghamshire or elsewhere?
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My mistake, death certificate for Edward shows born Benneston, Yorkshire came to NZ age 11.
Father John Gilder born 1821 Burnham, Buckingham, England. Mother Amelia Gilder nee Beverley. Both lived at Beaconsfield, Buckingham.
Edward is my great grandfather. Would like to know more about John's family. This is a recent discovery - links with London.
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Hi
John & Amelia only married in 1856
Per freebmd
Marriages June qtr 1856
Amelia Beverley Howden 9d 158
John Gilder/Gelder
This is a submitted IGI record
Amelia Beverley Christening: 23 FEB 1834 Howden, Yorkshire
Father: Andrew Beverley Mother: Amelia Bradley
Marriages: Spouse: John Gelder Marriage: 02 JUN 1856 Howden, Yorkshire,
The only John Gilder b Burnham on the 1851 census was b 1818 and married to Emma
Several children including a John b 1838 Farnham Royal Bucks
You need a copy of the 1856 marriage cert to establish who John's father was
The 1861 shows John & Emma with a son Edward aged 4months
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The NZ BMD's show deaths for Amelia 1886 aged 51 therefore born c1835
John 1895 age 61 therefore born c1834
Edward 1942 age 79 born c1863
These are the only John, Amelia and Edward
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1861 census RG09/3563/59/6
Firtree House Farm Luddington Lincolnshire
Farquahar Robertson farmer of 378 acres
John Gelder 25 foreman born Luddington
Amelia 26 born Howden Yorkshire
Annie 2 born Howden
Andrew 9 months born Howden
On the next farm is Edward and Mary Gelder born Luddington
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1871 RG10/4733/34/8
Grove Cottage Farm Howden Yorkshire
John Gelder 35 farmer of 29 acres b Luddington
Amelia 37 b Howden
Ann 12 Ouselthorpe
Andrew B 10 Spaldington
Edward 6 Middleton
Edith M 4 Searner?
Thomas 1 Howden
Amelia Beverley wife's mother 76. Reading Berkshire
The transcript says ALL born Yorkshire but is clearly wrong.
Haven't found them in 1881 yet
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NZ BMD's show possible marriages for Gilder
Andrew Beverley to Elizabeth Smith 1889
Edward to Agnes Smyth 1892
Edith Maude to George Bigwood 1892
Ann to George Crow 1879
So they arrived in NZ between 1871 and 1879 and their surname changed from Gelder to Gilder.
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Thank you Carole. It appears I have some more work to do putting all this together. I have received more information about John and Amelia. John's son Edward married Agnes Smyth. That is confirmed. Will obtain John's death certificate.
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I am coming in late to this discussion. I am travelling up to Beverley on Saturday 2nd August and I will be stopping off at Howden and Luddington. I have also just received John Gelder (Gilder) and Amelia Beverley's marriage certificate. My ex-husband is descended from Edward Gilder who married Agnes Smyth. I do have a lot of information back home in NZ and will be returning home in October after travelling for 5 years.
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I'm sorry, but we have been informed today by her daughter that the RootsChatter, Gilder has sadly away.
Trystan
RootsChat Co-Founder