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Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone can help me finding the following births as they took place in America
Catherine Diamond 1895 born in New York?
Susan Helen Diamond 1899 born in New York?
Bridget Agnes Diamond 1901 born in New York?
John Francis Diamond 1902 born in New York?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
If it was New York City there are a few records on the link below but I don't think it is going to cover the whole of the time frame you want unfortunately.
http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm
Have you tried this one:-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
I can see a New York Passenger List for SS Celtic - 27 May 1921 for A Bridget Diamond going to 346 East 65 St. New York NY. The date of birth given on the passenger list is:- 22 March 1901. Could any of that information tie it up to your Bridget ?
There is a California Death Record for Agnes Diamond born 30 July 1899 New York who died in San Francisco. California 28 Jan 1972.
Regards ;D
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your reply. Yes this record looks like her
A Bridget Diamond going to 346 East 65 St. New York NY. The date of birth given on the passenger list is:- 22 March 1901.
Do you know who lived at 346 East 65 St NewYork?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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I have no idea who was living there I'm afraid. Think we need one of the moderators to move this thread to the United States Board
Another New York Passenger List shows Susan Helen Diamond born New York City. New York. 3/9/1899 going to a sister 1476 North Milton Street. Philadelphia. on the SS Baltic 19 Dec 1919
Is this the family they all belong to ?
1900 Census Bronx, New York,
Patrick Diamond 38 Day Labourer. Immigrated 1898
Susie Diamond 35 Had 6 children and 4 survive
Anna Diamond 16 Born Ireland
Cathrian Diamond 13 Born Ireland
Patrick G Diamond 11 Born New York
Susie Helen Diamond 9/12 Born New York
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08vw/
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your reply. Yes this is the Diamond family. Could you send me links to the information that you found or send me a copy of the information .
Thanks
Kieran
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Could you send me a personal message with your e-mail address please. Meanwhile, I'll have another look to see what else I can find.
Regards ;D
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US Passport Application:- Date June 7th 1919
Susan Ellen Diamond born in New York City, 3 rd Sept 1899. My father Patrick Diamond was born in Draperstown. Ireland and he immigrated from Ireland at the Port of Londonderry in 1898 and resided uninterruptedly for 9 years from 1898 - 1907 in New York City. NY. He returned to Ireland in 1907, residing 6 years and is now residing in New York City for the purposes of work. I do not know if he was a Naturalized Citizen.
My permanent residence is in New York City where I follow the occupation of daughter, that I last left the United States June 1907 and I am now temporarily journing to Maghera. Ireland as soon as possible after receiving my passport. I intend to return to the United States within 3 months
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Father and son (the two Patricks) are on the New York Passenger List
Name: Patrick Diamond Birth Year: abt 1888 Age: 10 Gender: Male
Arrival Date: 4 Oct 1898
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Scythia
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The Father Patrick returns again on New York Passenger List 23 June 1913
Name: Patrick Diamond Age: 50 Gender: Male Birth Location: Ireland
Birth Location Other: dunlogan
Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1913
Birth Year: abt 1863
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cameronia
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Philadelphia Passenger List
Name: John Diamond Age: 18 Years Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1920.
Birthplace: New York,
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Haverford
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Mr. Pat Diamond
Last Residence: Ireland
Occupation:- Machinist. Single Person. From Maghera.
Name of Persopn or relative who knows you from County whence came is :- Mrs Diamond. Fir View. Maghera. Ireland.
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This could be your John Francis Diamond.
1930 San Francisco, California
John F Diamond 28 Born New York. Rents home $40. Married at 26 years old. Occupation:- City Policeman.
Bridie C Diamond 28 Born Irish Free State.
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks again for the information and yes both records belong to my Diamond Family of whom I have recently got in contact with.
I am in contact with John F Diamond and Bridget Christine Cahalane daughter so she will be able to tell me more whenever she gets around to sending me information that she has.
Thanks again for all your help
You are truly wonderful
Kieran
PS Can you see if you can find out anything on Andrew McKernan and Bridget McKernan nee Heron who got married in June 1837 and had a daughter Margaret born in February 1848 from Drumderg Draperstown, Derry Northern Ireland. From some records I found they were maybe in Newark, Essex, New Jersey.
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1880 Census Newark, Essex, New Jersey
All children born New Jersey
Andrew Mckernan 56 Born Ireland. Labourer
Bridget Mckernan 44
Ellen Mckernan 20 Button Factory
Elizabeth Mckernan 18 Button Factory
Peter Mckernan 16 Button Factory
Andrew Mckernan 14
Joseph Mckernan 12
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for the information. Yes I have got this but I am not sure if this is the right family as there is no Margaret mentioned. I would need to find something that says where in Ireland they were from as Andrew and Bridget were both from Draperstown.
Also they got married in 1837 so going by Andrew is 56 in 1880 he was born in 1824 so he was 13 when he got married?
Thanks for all your help I am really very grateful for it all.
Kieran
PS can you send me links to the last two pieces of the Diamonds information
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Hello Kieran,
Try the Ireland board to get the marriage info that you need - I think there is more than one Maghera, so not sure which County you need to put it under.
No that does'nt look like the correct Andrew but I did'nt see any other. :(
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks again for all your help. Yes this dosen't look like Andrew but it could be and his age could be taken down incorrectly or he was trying to make himself younger or maybe he was in another part of America.
Maghera where the Diamonds were living is in Co Derry.
Here they are in the 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Maghera/Glen_Road/611353/
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran
Saw a post you did on a Belfast Forum in April and you refer to a marriage between John P Hanna and Agnes Diamond.
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=29659.0
Does that mean that there is Bridget Agnes and Agnes are one and the same ?
Is this Agnes in New York ?
1930 Census Bronx, New York
John Hanna 31 Born England. Father England. Mother N.Ireland.Married at 27 years. Operator. Ind. ... Railway. Immigrated 1922
Agnes Hanna 27 Born New York of Irish Parents. Married at 25 years.
Plus 2 children. 1 Male John F Hanna 4 th Oct 1927 - 12 April 1993 SSDI Record
1 Female:- Mary E Hanna 19 Oct 1926 - 2004
Your post says "I am looking for the marriage of John P Hanna from Castlewellan Co Down to Agnes Diamond probably around 1901 or so"
Interestingly there is a New York Passenger List for John Hanna which ties in nicely with the immigration date on the above Census.
Name: John Hanna
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1922 Birth Year: abt 1900 Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Battersea .London
Age: 22 Gender: Male. Single at this date. Occupation:- Farm Labourer.
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia
Father listed as Hugh Hanna. Drumariad. Castlewellan. Co Down. He was going to Uncle John Hanna. 1836 Arthur Avenue. Bronx. New York.
So the marriage quite possibly is in New York about 1925/26 unless I can find another passenger list that puts John Hanna back in Ireland.
What do you reckon to a New York Marriage ?
Name: John F. Hanna
Last Residence: 10471 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Born: 4 Oct 1927
Died: 12 Apr 1993
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Don't know if you may have seen this and I cannot put all the content because of other living relatives.This was part of an obituary notice in the Post Star of Mary E Hanna/Barlow born 19 Oct 1926 the other daughter of John Hannah & Agnes Diamond.
Name of Deceased: Mary E. Barlow Age at Death: 77
Death Date: 21 May 2004 Obituary Date: 5 May 2009
Newspaper Title: Post-Star Newspaper Location: Glens Falls, NY, USA
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1926 Birth Place: Warrensburg
Spouse's name: Vincent H. Barlow August
Parents' Names: John and Agnes (Diamond) Hanna
5 Grandchildren
and her husband SSDI Record
Name: Vincent H. Barlow
Born: 26 Mar 1926
Died: 21 May 2004
Last Residence: 12885 Warrensburg, Warren, New York.
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks again for all your help and you have hit the jackpot. Again this information is for the correct families and anything you can send me to back things up will be great. Any chance of getting any of the kids details so that I could get my auntie to write to them as she kept in contact with Agnes, John P and John F.
Yes Bridget Agnes and Agnes are the one. We only knew her as Agnes but I have found a record that calls her Bridget Agnes which I think was her baptism. Yes the marriage probably took place in New York I was trying Ireland as they both had come from Ireland but I never found any marriage for them.
I have got the marriage of Hugh Hanna who came from Castlewellan but married Mary Caines from Battersea and all the four children were born in Battersea.
Any chance of finding any details for his uncle John Hanna.
Thanks so much for all your help my aunties will be thrilled.
Kieran
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Hi Dettori28,
Agnes sister was called Catherine Diamond and I think she was married to Duryea and died on the 15 June 1968 in America.
Also there was a Herbert T Moyes who died on the 2 March 1987
Do you know where the Barlow's are buried at?
Thanks as always
Kieran
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Have you got a date of birth for Hugh's brother John Hanna ?
I see one in Bronx New York in 1920 E 172 nd Street and 1930 Fenton Avenue born about 1870. Immigrated 1888 but that isn't the address John Hanna was going to in 1922.
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all the information. Unfortunately, I don't know when Hugh's brother John was born.
I have been speaking to my aunties and they say that Susan Helen Diamond married Harry Bradley from Maghera around 1950 -
1970 as when she came home in 1970 she was 20 years married.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Catheine I find rather a mystery because you originally were looking for a birth 1895.
On the 1900 Census, Catherine was listed as born 1888 Ireland and was 13 years old ???
Catherine isn't with the family on your 1911 Ireland Census Record.
I can see a SSDI Record for a Catherine Duryea born 11 Aug 1897 Died July 1980 Brooklyn. Kings. New York.
and another SSDI for Catherine Duryea born 6th May 1900 Died January 1967
The first one was married to Frank F Duryea and their is a US Veterans Gravesite information for that one below
Name: Catherine Duryea
Service Info.: SGT US ARMY Birth Date: 11 Aug 1897
Death Date: 20 Jul 1980
Relation: Wife of Duryea, Frank F
Interment Date: 23 Jul 1980
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section 2d Site 2371
If Catherine was born 1895-8 then I would have to assume she went back to Ireland with the family in 1907 so would hope to find a passenger record of her returning married or unmarried. Have'nt found an unmarried one yet.
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This is Census information for Catherine Duryea that was married to Frank.
1930 Census Brooklyn, Kings, New York
All born New York
Frank Duryea 34 Married at 21 yrs. Parents New York. Motorman. Elevator Train ???
Katherine Duryea 32 Married at 20 yrs. Parents Irish Free State.
Frances Duryea 12
Walter Duryea 8
+ 1 more daughter same name as Mother.
Can probably find more on this family if it is the correct one.
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Reply 19 - Herbert Moyes ???
Who is Herbert - I can see the death record born 4 Jan 1907 and died Mar 1987 - Springfield, Delaware, Pennsylvania but I am not sure how he fits in ??
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Reply 19 - Herbert Moyes ???
Who is Herbert - I can see the death record born 4 Jan 1907 and died Mar 1987 - Springfield, Delaware, Pennsylvania but I am not sure how he fits in ??
Yes this record is right he was married to Rose or Rosie McKernan 13th July 1913 - 2 March 2005 and had two children Herbert Moyes and Barbara Rose Moyes. I
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Reply 19 - Herbert Moyes ???
Who is Herbert - I can see the death record born 4 Jan 1907 and died Mar 1987 - Springfield, Delaware, Pennsylvania but I am not sure how he fits in ??
Yes this record is right he was married to Rose or Rosie McKernan 13th July 1913 - 2 March 2005 and had two children Herbert Moyes and Barbara Rose Moyes. I have no records for the children but know that Barbara Rose is married.
Rosie McKernan was my grandfathers sister.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Catheine I find rather a mystery because you originally were looking for a birth 1895.
On the 1900 Census, Catherine was listed as born 1888 Ireland and was 13 years old ???
Catherine isn't with the family on your 1911 Ireland Census Record.
I can see a SSDI Record for a Catherine Duryea born 11 Aug 1897 Died July 1980 Brooklyn. Kings. New York.
and another SSDI for Catherine Duryea born 6th May 1900 Died January 1967
The first one was married to Frank F Duryea and their is a US Veterans Gravesite information for that one below
Name: Catherine Duryea
Service Info.: SGT US ARMY Birth Date: 11 Aug 1897
Death Date: 20 Jul 1980
Relation: Wife of Duryea, Frank F
Interment Date: 23 Jul 1980
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section 2d Site 2371
If Catherine was born 1895-8 then I would have to assume she went back to Ireland with the family in 1907 so would hope to find a passenger record of her returning married or unmarried. Have'nt found an unmarried one yet.
Hi Dettori28,
Yes I see what you mean about Catherine. I see in the Census you sent me for 4th June 1909 she is listed as Catherian and was born in 1886. I was given a memorial card and she is called Kathryn M. Duryea who died on the 15th June 1968 if this is hers?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Re:- Herbert and Rose
The son is still alive in Pennsylvania, probably about 73 yrs or so.
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Regarding Catherine/Kathryn that makes her born 1886 - which is another different date ???
Name: Kathryn Duryea
Born: 28 Oct 1886
Died: Jun 1968
Last Residence: 11510 Baldwin, Nassau, New York.
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Regarding Catherine/Kathryn that makes her born 1886 - which is another different date ???
Name: Kathryn Duryea
Born: 28 Oct 1886
Died: Jun 1968
Last Residence: 11510 Baldwin, Nassau, New York.
Hi Dettori28,
Yes this looks like her as the census says born October 1886. Is this Catherine son who is still alive aged 73?
Thanks again fro all your help and hard work.
I really appreciate all your help
Kieran
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Heelo Keiran
On the 1900 Census we had a Patrick G Diamond 11 Born New York, have you any further info on him.
He may not have travelled back to Ireland with the family in 1907
but I have'nt found anything definite for him yet ?
Reply £ also said that Susan Helen Diamond was going to a sister in Philadelphia, so I am wondering if that could have been Catherine/Kathryn - need to check that out as well ?
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your reply. Yes Patrick Geard Diamond was born in 20 Aug 1888 in Ireland and that was him you had in the ships log yesterday 'the Father and son (the two Patricks) are on the New York Passenger List' Patrick Geard was the son.
In my last email I thought I might have his death on the 24 October 1969 but I am not sure if this is correct.
Yes haven't spoken to my aunties Susan Helen either went to Catherine/Kathyrn or Annie who was born in Scotland on the 17th November 1884 and who they think married Mullholland?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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This is the Patrick you are trying to tie in to but there are so many options, he may not be the right one. I was hoping to find a Patrick with "G" (Geard) in the name but so far cannot see anything. Is it Geard or a version of Gerard ?
Name: Patrick Diamond
Born: 1 May 1902
Died: Oct 1969
Last Residence: 19082 Upper Darby, Delaware, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Certainly got around did'nt they, Ireland, Scotland USA and back to Ireland before some returning to the USA.
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks again for all your help. Yes Geard maybe was spelt wrong it should of been Gerard.
These details however, look correct any chance at finding out who the Patrick parents were?
Yes the Diamonds really got around even back home they moved around quite a bit.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
The Delaware Death records only go as far as 1955. I could only suggest you try the public library, see if they can do a look up for you or if they can point you in a direction. I can't see anyone appropriate for RAOGK who could do that.
http://www.delcolibraries.org/ud.htm
There is a criteria for people who request a death certificate, it isn't quite as easy as it seems, the link below will explain.
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/death_certificates/14122
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Have you got a date of birth for Hugh's brother John Hanna ?
I see one in Bronx New York in 1920 E 172 nd Street and 1930 Fenton Avenue born about 1870. Immigrated 1888 but that isn't the address John Hanna was going to in 1922.
Hi Dettori28,
I think I may have found John as his brother Hugh was born in approximately 1863 and his father was Patrick.
John was born in approximately in 1873.
See copy of the census below
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Seaforde/Drumnaquoil/1227300/
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help. My aunties was wondering if you could find anything on XXXX Kennedy from Dunlogan Draperstown Magherafelt Co Derry who was born maybe around 1955 and his wife was from the free state of Ireland maybe Galway.
I would be very grateful of any help with this
Kieran
Moderator Comment: Name of living person removed. Please do not give details of anybody born after 1920 unless you know they are deceased.
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Not sure if I can be positive about John Hanna, but I suspect this is the family in
1920 Bronx Assembly District 5, Bronx, New York
East 172 nd Street.
John Hanna 50 Immigrated 1888. Bricklayer for construction company
Margaret Hanna 40 Immigrated 1909
Mary Hanna 16 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1909
Charles Hanna 14 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1909
Josephine Hanna 12 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1909
John P Hanna 9 Born New York
Loretta Hanna 8 Born New York
Margaret Hanna 5 Born New York
William Hanna 2 Born New York
Edmund Hanna 6 months. Born New York
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help. My aunties was wondering if you could find anything on Harry Kennedy from Dunlogan Draperstown Magherafelt Co Derry who was born maybe around 1955 and his wife was from the free state of Ireland maybe Galway.
I would be very grateful of any help with this
Kieran
Do you mean 1955 or should it be 1855 ??? I cannot do living people on here - would need to know a little more. Do you expect to find him the USA ? ???
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help. Yes 1955 would he not be in a ships log or are they not available yet. Yes they are in the USA somewhere.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Sorry, Keiran - very little available after the 1950's. If he was married before he went, you must be talking in the mid 70's or later :(
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The Hanna family are from County Down. Have found the passenger list for Margaret, Mary Charles and Josephine.
New York Passenger List.
Margaret, Mary, Charles and Josephine
Arrival Date: 4 May 1909
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: California
Going to husband John Hannah (spelt that way) 1505 Edgewater Road, Bronx. NY
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1930 Census Bronx, New York
Fenton Street.
John Hanna 61 Married at 32. Owns Home $9750. Bricklayer in building. Immigrated 1906
Margaret Hanna 50
Charles Hanna 24 Bricklayer in building
John Hanna 20 Bricklayer in building
Loretta Hanna 18 Secretary Fair Office
Margaret Hanna 16
William Hanna 13
Edmond Hanna 10
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help. Could you send me copies of anything you find. This all looks good. I think the same here after 1950 although you can get copies of certificates as long as you know a rough date. For Northern Ireland you just go online put in the details and then of course your credit card and then you get the certificate.
Would it be possible to get any details on any of the children that were listed for Andrew McKernan as it might list the mothers maiden name or where she was from.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Seems they start off in New Jersey.
1910 Census Newark Ward 8, Essex, New Jersey
John Hanna 35 Bricklayer - house.
Margaret Hanna 39 Had 5 children and 4 survive. Br
Mary A Hanna 9
Charles G Hanna 5
Josephine Hanna 3
John P Hanna 2 months Born NJ
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The maiden name was Bridget Walsh - here is the birth record
http://www.rootschat.com/links/08x7/
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your help. Yet again when I try and get my fathers family they are wrong. It should of been Andrew McKernan and Bridget Heron married in June 1837.
Thanks for looking
Kieran
Maybe they would be in a ships log. I think they left Ireland after Feb 1848. I have found them married as Andrew Keirnan and Biddy Haran.
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No I never found any entry to match them when we did reply 11 and 12 Sorry ???
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your help it seems like my fathers family went into a puff of smoke once they left Ireland.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help.
Can you find a George Murray who was born in 28 Jan 1877 from Moneyneena Draperstown parents Michael Murray and Ellen Murray nee Murray.
I know he went to America but again I don't know where.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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That really isn't enough information to work with Keiran. I have had a look but nothing jumps out at me.
Coincidence but there is an IGI Record for George Murray a son of Hugh Murray and Susan Murray Diamond born exactly the same day - 24 Jan 1877. Ironical when your other line includes the Diamond family ;)
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help. Hughs parents were Patrick Hanna and Bridget Doran from
Parish/ District of DRUMAROAD
I now have found Elizabeth (12 Jan 1870),
Charles Patrick (12 Sep 1864),
John (24 Jun 1866) and Hugh (06/01/1861)
I hope this helps confirm the details for John Hanna.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Thats puts a slightly different time scale on John Hanna to the one I quoted previously and need another look to verifyy. >:(
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your reply. I got some of the records from LDS and the other was a look up that gave me the full parents. I am going home shortly to Ireland so the responses might not be as quick as I won't always have the internet.
However, do worry I will get back in touch.
I can't thank you enough for all your help. Hopefully, I will be able to get to the bottom of my fathers family soon
Thanks
Kieran :)
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No I never found any entry to match them when we did reply 11 and 12 Sorry ???
Hi Dettori28,
I am just after looking deaths and I have found two possible
Bridget Kernan born 1810 in Ireland and died aged 90 882 Pacific St., Brooklyn, Kings, New York
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=Kernon&deathPlaceId=1&givenName=Bridget&p=recordResults&deathPlaceLoc1=United%20States&searchType=close
Andrew Kernan born in 1804 died in 22 Mar 1871
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=Kernon&deathPlaceId=1&givenName=Andrew&p=recordResults&deathPlaceLoc1=United%20States&searchType=close
Thanks for all your help
Kieran :)
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Those are Kernan and not McKernan and the death places are in 2 different locations. No census seems to show a Bridget and Andrew Kernan/ McKernan together in either of those locations that I can see. ???
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Going back to Susan Helen Diamond who married Harry Bradley.
These are the SSDI Records for those 2. No luck with obituaries to fill in the blanks
Name: Harry Bradley
Born: 28 Jun 1928
Died: Apr 1986
Last Benefit: 10454 Bronx, Bronx, New York, United States of America
SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
Name: Helen Bradley
Last Residence: 10467 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Born: 3 Sep 1899
Died: May 1983
Last Benefit: 10467 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
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Hi Kieran,
I've been looking at John Hanna again and although his age would be out on that 1910 census, 1920 make him 1869/70 which isn't to far out. I think the census records I gave seems the best match for him. He even calls his son John P Hanna - born 1909 New Jersey. Might see if I can anything on him ;)
The McKernan family are a mystery and I still see no census with them on it. Could be mistranscribed but I've even tried variations of that and got "zilch"
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On the 1910 census John P Hanna was 2 months old. The census was taken 18th April 1910. So this SSDI Record seems to fit:- ???
Name: John P. Hanna
Born: 20 Feb 1910
Died: 14 Nov 1989
Last Residence: 10470 Bronx, Bronx, New York, United States of America
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Those are Kernan and not McKernan and the death places are in 2 different locations. No census seems to show a Bridget and Andrew Kernan/ McKernan together in either of those locations that I can see. ???
Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for your reply. The wedding record for Andrew and Bridget lists them as Andrew Kernan/Keirnan and Biddy Haran.
So you can see that the names have changed over the years.
Maybe there daughter Margaret born on the 03/02/1848 would be easier to find.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Yes, I see that which is why I checked for Andrew, Bridget and Margaret Kernan and McKernan and lots of other variations. I can find a Bridget Kernan born 1810 Ireland in New York in 1850 but no Andrew or Margaret. That family of Kernan were also in the USA before 1837 and Margaret was'nt born until 1848. So that particular Bridget could very well be the one on death record that you found. ??? I can also see a Margaret Kernan (Domestic) born 1848 but no further info on her. I have spent many hours going through all that I can but have drawn a blank ???
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help and all the information. It seems to be always the same when I try and get information on the McKernans that went to America. It must be the way the name has been recorded.
The wedding details are on this link but I don't think it will give you any more clues
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_marriage.cfm?Standard_Surname=HAREN&Actual_Surname=HARAN&Surname1=Haran&Firstname1=Biddy&YOB=&YOM=&Surname2=&Firstname2=&CountyID=7
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Can't get the link Keiran ???
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This might be the link:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
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Many thanks, I'd better wade back through the thread to find the date of the marriage now, I've forgotten. ;)
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Hi Dettori28,
Sorry the link didn't work but I see you have been given the right weblink.
If you search for Biddy Haran from Londonderry there will be only one marriage listed and this is for Andrew and Bridget.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Since the marriage is apparently in Londonderry this is the link for that part of the website:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/index.html
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Thank you, found it, did'nt help but nice to see it.
Surely there must be other children, if the marriage is 1837 and Margaret was born 1848. Could you have a search to see if you can find any more ?
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Not sure what's supposed to be on the site but when I search for marriage in L'derry for Bridget Haran there's only 1 result- 1839 to John Walls.
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It was under Biddy Haran - 1837
KEIRNAN ANDREW HARAN BIDDY 1837 M
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Hi Dettori28,
Thanks for all your help. Well I have another family I would love your help with.
It is Rose McKernan born on the 13 July 1913 and Rosie died on the 2 March 2005 who married Herbert T Moyes who was born 4th Jan 1907 and died on the 2 March 1987. They then had two children called Barbara Rose Moyes and Herbert Moyes. I believe that Barbara married DeFelice.
I would be very grateful if you can find any ships logs or any death notices.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Just trying to refresh my memory - we touched on this couple about reply 24/25 ish. I cannot do the children on here they may still be living people. I thought I send you a link to the possible son (will resend) ???
SSDI Record
Rose Moyes - Born: 13 Jul 1913
Died: 2 Mar 2005
Last Residence: 19037 Glen Riddle Lima, Delaware, Pennsylvania
SSN was issued in : Pennsylvania (1956-1958)
Herbert Moyes - Born: 4 Jan 1907
Died: Mar 1987
Last Residence: 19064 Springfield, Delaware, Pennsylvania, United States of America
SSN was issued in - Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
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Was Rose born in Draperstown 1913 ??? Mother called Rose. Lived in Doon. Draperstown. Co. Derry.
Also a sister Mary in Philadelphia ??? I have a passenger record with those details.
Or was she born and married in the USA ???
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Hi Dettori28,
Yes these details are all correct. Yes she had a sister Mary living in Philadelphia and a sister Annie Marie.
Yes Rose was born in Draperstown in Doon and so was Mary and Annie Marie. I have got all the births OK it was what happened after they went to America.
Thanks again for all your help you are really great
Kieran
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New York Passenger List
Name: Rose Mckernan. Born in 1914. Draperstown. Ireland.
Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1930. Aged 16 years.
Rose travelled from Londonderry to New York on the SS Caledonia
Visa Number:- 12518 was issued in Belfast on 26 June 1930.
Her Motherr was:- Rose McKernan. Doon. Draperstwon. Co. Derry.
Rose was travelling to Philadelphia to see her sister Miss Mary McKernan. 2105 Venango Street. Philadelphia. PA. She intended to stay permanently.
Rose was 5ft 3" Fresh Complexion. Brown Eyes. Brown Hair. Condition of health, mental & physical was good.
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all the information this is great. Can you send me a copy of this so I can add this to my records
Thanks as always
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Sorry Keiran I thought you wre all sorted & deleted your e-mail address a few days ago. Can you send me a pm again please. ;)
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Hi Sandra, :)
Thanks for all your help. Can you find any ships logs for the husbands of Rose and Mary McKernan as Charles Lowery came from Belfast. Also is there any information on Annie Marie McKernan as she was another sister she was born in 1923.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Was Chales Lowery the husband of Mary who lived in Philladelphia, Kieran. Can you give me an idea of there ages and was he from Draperstown ? Obviously Mary was already in Philadelphia when Rose arrived in 1930 going from memory.
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Hi Sandra,
Yes Charles Lowry was the husband of Mary. He came from Belfast his father was Robert Lowery and mother was Jane Duffin.
This is Charles in the 1911 nothern Ireland census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__George_s/Majestic_Street/155774/
Hope this helps
Kieran
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This is Charles in the 1911 nothern Ireland census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__George_s/Majestic_Street/155774/
It's actually the Irish census- Northern Ireland didn't come into existence until 1920s. Majestic Street is in Belfast.
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A possibility:- Boston Passenger List
Charles Lowry Born about 1901 Belfast. Ireland. Aged 24 years. Single
Travelling from Liverpool, England - Arriving : 27 April 1925 in Boston, Massachusetts on the SS Baltic Going to Philladelhia
Friend's Name: D Shearer. Occupation:- Engineer.
Mother was Mrs Lowry. 83 Craigmore Street. Belfast
If you have a definate birthdate it would verify if either of these records could be him ?
SSDI Record
Name: Charles Lowry
Born 24 Feb 1901 and Died Nov 1968
Last Residence was: 19003 Ardmore, Delaware, Pennsylvania,
SSN was issued in: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
Name: Charles Lowry
Born 10 March 1900
Died May 1987
Last Residence: 15010 Beaver Falls, Beaver, Pennsylvania,
SSN was issued in: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Not sure as his daughter has listed him as being born in 29 June 1914 but that doesn't work with the census. He died the 1st November 1972 and lived at Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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The Census you put on indicates he was born in 1901.
There is a Charles Arthur Lowry death listed in New Jersey in Nov 1972 with a birth date of 14 June 1914. He was born in Pennsylvania and married Lydia Columbo. ??? Obviously not yours.
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks again for all your help. My aunties always said that Charles was from Belfast. Yes this entry you found isn't him as he didn't marry the right person.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
PS I think the daughter must have the wrong death date.
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Hello Kieran,
It is better to post your questions on the boards, rather than by personal message, that way it makes it easier to follow what has gone before and everyone can see what it is your looking for. So hope you don't mind, that is what I have done here. Looks like you have another New York one here. ;)
Hi Sandra,
Its me again and I was wondering if you can find out anything on the following
Margaret McGuigan born in 1905 and married John Scheer also born in 1905.
Margaret died in 1971 and John died in 1999.
Can you find any ships logs for these or any death notices?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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This is the lady you mean:-
SSDI Record
Name: Margaret Scheer
Born: 14 Nov 1905
Died: Feb 1971
Last Residence: 10532 Hawthorne, Westchester, New York, United States of America
SSN was issued in: New York (1962)
SSDI Record
John G. Scheer
Born: 8 Apr 1905
Died: 14 Jul 1999
Last Residence: 10532 Hawthorne, Westchester, New York, United States of America
SSN was issued in: New York (Before 1951)
Someone has got an anc.try tree with those 2 names - Margaret is Margaret Eileen Ceclia Mc Guigan and it says she was born November 14, 1905 in New York. John G Scheer April 8, 1905 in Budapest, Hungary. They have no further information - apart from they has a son. (No name given) So if this information is correct Margaret was already in New York and would'nt appear on a passenger list.
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your reply. Yes this all looks great are you able to find any death notices from any of the papers.
Thanks for all your help you are great.
Kieran
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I have'nt come up with anything extra Kieran but you never know someone may find something for you. That is why I've put the message here - to give you a better chance. Did you know he was from Hungary ?
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1930 Census Bronx, New York
John G Scheer 25 Born Hungary. Electrician
Margeret E C Scheer 24 Born New York
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Remind me again - who are Margarets parents ? Does this family look at all familiar ?
1920 Census Bronx Assembly District 4, Bronx, New York
Catherine Mc Guigann 40 Born New York 1880
James Mc Guigann 19 Bernard Mc Guigann 15
Margarett E Mc Guigann 14 Rose F Mc Guigann 9
Theresa Mc Guigann 6 Elizabeth Mc Guigann 3
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Margaret married John 30 June 1929 Bronx
Scheer John Jun 30 1929 Bronx 4840
McGuigan Margaret Jun 30 1929 Bronx 4840
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBridesRes2.asp
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your replys I will look up the McGuigans in a minute. I have made a bit of a discovery remember I was asking about my grandfathers sister I am hoping that I have tracked down her death.
McKiernan Mary E 27 y Oct 27 1904 35555 Manhattan M265
I would be very grateful if you can provide any information on this as I have always hit a brick wall when I have been lucking for her.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
PS Can you send me a copy of the census.
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Remind me again - who are Margarets parents ? Does this family look at all familiar ?
1920 Census Bronx Assembly District 4, Bronx, New York
Catherine Mc Guigann 40 Born New York 1880
James Mc Guigann 19 Bernard Mc Guigann 15
Margarett E Mc Guigann 14 Rose F Mc Guigann 9
Theresa Mc Guigann 6 Elizabeth Mc Guigann 3
Hi Sandra,
Yes this family looks like they are connected.
Can you send me a copy of the census
Thanks
Kieran
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Yes, I have sent those 2 requests ;)
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Same ones again in1930 Census Bronx, New York
Catherine Mcguigan 50 Widow. Married at 19 years
Rose Mcguigan 19 Typist in Bank
Thresa Mcguigan 16
Elizabeth Mcguigan 13
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Mcguigan Catherine 64 y Mar 20 1943 3086 Bronx. New York
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0992/
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Same ones again in1930 Census Bronx, New York
Catherine Mcguigan 50 Widow. Married at 19 years
Rose Mcguigan 19 Typist in Bank
Thresa Mcguigan 16
Elizabeth Mcguigan 13
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Can you please send me a copy of this census as well.
Any luck with Mary McKiernan?
Thank for all your help
Kieran
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No, I'm afraid you will need to get the death certificate on that one, there are no further details available. :(
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Hi Sandra,
As always you are great at finding me information.
Can you find anything for Bernard McGuigan born in 1904 who married Anna McGregory born in 1907.
Also a James McGuigan born in 1873 and a Catherine McQuade born in 1876.
Thanks as always for all your help.
Kieran
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Bernard McGuigan was born 10 July 1904 in New York, NY Died 4 Dec 1970 in Bronx, New York.
SSDI Record
Name: Bernard McGuigan
Born: 10 Jul 1904
Died: Dec 1970
Last Residence: 10461 Bronx, Bronx, New York,
SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
New York Passenger List
Bernard Mcguigan. Born 1904. New York. Aged 28 years.
Arrival Date: 23 Sep 1932
Travelling from New York NY on Sept 10th 1932 Arriving at the Port of New York 23 Sept 1932 on SS Munargo
Travellling with him Anna, aged 25 and born New York Feb 6th 1907 and Donald Mcguigan born New York Oct 30th 1929 (See later posting for death in 2010)
Address in the US 3513 Rasters Blvd. New York City.
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Could be same family 1910 Census Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
This was how it was spelt. All children born New York.
James McGaigan 36 Born Ireland Marriage 1 for 12 years. Immigrated 1897. Foreman City Department.
Catharine McGaigan 38 Born New York
James McGaigan Jr 10
John McGaigan 8
Bernad McGaigan 5
Margaret McGaigan 4
William McGaigan 1
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1930 Census Bronx, Bronx, New York
This is how it was spelt.
Bernard A Mcgugin 25 Born New York. Married at 21 years. Policeman. City Department.
Anna Mcgugin 23 Married at 18 years.
Donald Mcgugin 8 months
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SSDI Record
Name: Anna McGuigan
Born: 6 Feb 1907
Died: May 1979
Last Residence: 10461 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
SSN was issued: New York (Before 1951)
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Donald James McGuigan born 30 July 1929. Graduation in 1946 - Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Mt. St. Michael Academy, 4300 Murdock Ave in the Bronx. 1951 - Military
Korea- UN POW Camp CPRL as military police. Rec'd a commendation, Serial (?) US 51 115 298.
24 th Oct 1952 Marriage to Joan Marie Emerick. Had 2 sons and a daughter. (Named later in Obituary information) Joan was Born 15 May 1930 in Brooklyn, NY Died 14th Jan 2005 in Ocala, FL
Donald Died 12 April 2010 St. Petersburg, FL at Bon Secours Maria Manor. Funeral Mass said at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Pinellas Park, Fl and was interred in Bay Pines with Joan's ashes.
MC GUIGAN, DONALD JAMES 80
Ocala - McGuigan, Donald James 80, died on April 12, 2010, at his home in St. Petersburg, Fl. Donald was born on July 30, 1929, in Bronx, N.Y. and was a Korean War Veteran. After retiring as Detective from the New York City Police Dept. He and his wife Joan (deceased) relocated to Ocala, Fl. where he was an active member of Blessed Trinity Roman Catholic Church, as well as a member of his local Fraternal Order of Police chapter. Donald is also retired from the Ocala Police Department. Remainder of obituary covers his children - will send by pm.
SSDI Record
Donald James McGuigan
Born: 30 Jul 1929
Died: 12 Apr 2010
Last Residence: 33705 Saint Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida
SSN was issued: New York (Before 1951)
SSDI Record
Name: Joan McGuigan
Born 15 May 1930
Died 144 Jan 2005
Last Residence: 34471 Ocala, Marion, Florida,
SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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US Veterans Gravesite
Name: Joan Marie McGuigan
Birth Date: 15 May 1930
Death Date: 14 Jan 2005
CPL US ARMY
Relation: Wife of McGuigan, Donald J
Cemetery: Florida National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 6502 SW. 102nd Ave. Bushnell, FL 33513
Buried At: Section 1d Row 2d Site 36
Obituary for Joan McGuigan.
Joan M. McGuigan, 74
OCALA - Joan M. McGuigan, 74, a homemaker, died Friday, Jan. 14, 2005, at Ocala Regional Medical Center.
A native of New York City, she moved here from there in 1979. Mrs. McGuigan was a member of Blessed Trinity Catholic Church, the Royal Dames of Ocala and the Pioneer Garden Club.
Survivors include her husband, Donald McGuigan. Remainder of obituary covers children - will send by pm.
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James McGuigan was born 1874 in Dungiven, Londonderry, Ireland Died 1 st August 1919
in Bronx, Bronx, New York. Married to Catherine McQuaid who died 20 March 1943 Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA.
James McGuigan Death
McGuigan James 45 y Jul 29 1919 5901 Bronx
http://www.rootschat.com/links/099i/
1900 Census Bronx, New York, New York
James Mcguigan 27 Born Ireland. Married 2 years. Iron setter. Immigration date not clear 1893/1898 ???
Catherine Mcguigan 23 Born NY
Mary Mcquade 21 Born NY Sister-In-Law. Saleslady dry Goods Store.
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If James immigrated about 1893 - this could be a possibility but it does'nt give alot of detail
New York Passenger List
Name: James Mcguigan. Born about 1875. Age 19 years.
Travelling from Londonderry to New York, on the
Ship Named: Furnessia - Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1894.
Occupation:- Labourer
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According to an anc. try tree - James McGuigan Jnr Born 1900 in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Died 15th Sept 1922 in Bronx, Bronx, New York. Burial Calcary Cemetery. Queens. New York. The source is Interment records for Calcary Cemetery.
John McGuigan Born 1902 in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Died 18th July 1919
in Bronx, Bronx, New York. Burial Calcary Cemetery, Queens, New York.
Catherine McGuigan Born 1903 in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Died 1903
in Bronx, Bronx, New York. Ref Calcary Cemetery
McGuigan Catherine 4 m May 31 1903 16874 Manhattan
Mary A McGuigan Born July 1907 in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Death June 29, 1908
in Bronx, Bronx, New York.
McGuigan Mary A 11 m June 28 1908 20110 Manhattan
William McGuigan Born 5/1909 in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Died 27th May 1910
in Bronx, Bronx, New York. Ref Calcary Cemetery.
Daniel McGuigan Born 12/1914in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Death 19th Jan 1915
in Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Cecilia McGuigan Born 10/1918 in Bronx, Bronx, New York, USA Died 4 th June 1919
in Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Theresa Mc Guigan Died 24th Jan 1941 in Bronx, Bronx, New York
Mcguigan Theresa 27 y Jan 24 1941 2221 Manhattan
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Hi Sandra,
As always you are great. I was asking my auntie about Andrew McKernan again and she says that he left on a ship from Londonderry would this help track him and Bridget down?
Thanks for all your help you are wonderful.
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
I have just received more Diamond information. Can you please have a look for
Bridget C Diamond born on the 29 January 1901 and died on the 24 Jan 1981.
Thanks for all your help as always it is very much appreciated.
Kieran
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I can see the death record Kieran but where was she born - is this a different Diamond family to the one we started with because we had a Bridget Agnes Diamond back in the early replies ? Is this a maiden name or married name ?
Name: Bridget Diamond
Born: 29 Jan 1901
Died: Jan 1981
Last Residence: 10532 Hawthorne, Westchester, New York, United States of America
Last Benefit: 06410 Cheshire, New Haven, Connecticut, United States of America
SSN was issued: New York (1953-1955)
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Married Name then - because it looks like she is perhaps the wife of:-
SSDI Record
Name: John Diamond
Born: 18 Mar 1902
Died: Apr 1972
Last Residence: 10532 Hawthorne, Westchester, New York, United States of America
SSN was issued: New York (Before 1951)
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Hi Sandra,
You are after finding Bridget Agnes brother John who was known as (Jack) and the other Bridget C is his wife.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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This was them in reply 10
This could be your John Francis Diamond.
1930 San Francisco, California
John F Diamond 28 Born New York. Rents home $40. Married at 26 years old. Occupation:- City Policeman.
Bridie C Diamond 28 Born Irish Free State.
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Hi Sandra,
Can you find any death notices for
John J. Ohalloran, born 28 May 1919, died 15 Aug 1995 last residence was Philadelphia.
His wife was Annie O'Halloran maybe nee McKernan. There children was as follows:
John J. Ohalloran, born 28 May 1919, died 15 Aug 1995
Vincent Leo O’halloran born 7 Dec. 1924 and died 12 Feb. 1978 in Dade Co.
Francis E. Ohalloran born 7 Dec 1924 and a death date of 24 Mar. 2009.
Thanks for all your help.
Kieran
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Same ones again in1930 Census Bronx, New York
Catherine Mcguigan 50 Widow. Married at 19 years
Rose Mcguigan 19 Typist in Bank
Thresa Mcguigan 16
Elizabeth Mcguigan 13
Can you please forward me a copy and anything else from this point
Thanks
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
It is impossible for me to send every record, to every person I am helping with research although I do try to help out with what I can, the volume would be to great. These sites should help you with most things.
It is possible you can see passenger records on the Ellis Island Site - all you have to do is register and then it is free.
http://www.ellisisland.org/
SSDI Records are available here:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
and the pilot site gives alot of census and other records
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
Alot of your family seem to have been in New York so this site is also very useful
http://www.italiangen.org/
Hope these help:
SSDI
Name: John J. OHalloran
Born: 28 May 1919
Died: 15 Aug 1995
Last Residence: 19116 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
Florida Death Index
Name: Vincent Leo Ohalloran
Born 7 Dec 1924 Age 53 years.
Death Date: 12 Feb 1978
County of Death: Dade Florida
SSDI Record - This birth date varies from the one you gave
Name: Francis E. Ohalloran
Born: 5 Jan 1921
Died: 24 Mar 2009
Last Residence: 19136 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help as always and all the luseful links. The only things I was looking copies of was the census as I can't get them. Also where do you find the death notices at?
Thanks for all your help it is always very much appreciated.
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
I have gone back through the last couple of days and sent you every census up to date. Should keep you busy sorting them out. ;)
Regards.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help as usual. I will now add these details to my information on the McGuigan Family.
Thanks
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help :)
Can you find any death notice for Bernard McGuigan who Died 4 Dec 1970 in Bronx, New York.
Or do you know what cemetery he was buried in?
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
Sorry. I have found no obituary notice for Bernard just the SSDI record in an earlier reply. Most of the younger infants of that family were buried at Calcary Cemetery. New York. Perhaps he could be buried there as well but that would be a guess. The only suggestion would be to contact that Cemetery and see if they have any records that would help you. Perhaps there were family plots there ? Again, sorry I cannot be more helpful.
Regards.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks very much for looking for the obituary notice for Bernard McGuigan.
Could you look for an obituary notice for
John J. Ohalloran, born 28 May 1919, died 15 Aug 1995 or
Francis E. Ohalloran born in 28 May 1919 death date of 24 Mar. 2009
Or can you find any death details for Anna Ohalloran I notice her dat of birth listed is 11 June 1888 and that is my grandfathers date of birth so maybe she got mixed up with the dates?
Anna husband was John Joseph O'Halloran. I think the family lived in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
I would as always be very grateful of any information you can find to help see if Anna is My grandfathers sister this would be a great breakthough and I know my auntie would be thrilled if I could get this for her.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Sorry, I did not see any Obituary notices the other day when I gave the SSDI records of the O Halloran Family.
I did'nt see an appropriate SSDI Record for Anna or James T OHalloran 1923.
There are no Pennsylvania death records online to verify the date of death of John J OHalloran 1885 Ireland who seems to have died between 1925 - 1930. :(
1930 Census Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Allison Street
Anna Ohalloran 40 Born 1890 Northern Ireland. Widowed. Owns Home $4000. Immigrated 1910
John J Ohalloran 10
Francis E Ohalloran 9
James T Ohalloran 7
Vincent L Ohalloran 5
Anna Miller 31 Boarder
Myron Miller 9 Boarder
Rodger Miller 8 Boarder
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1920 Census Philadelphia Ward 26, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Hick Street
John J O'Halleran 35 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1912. Private Chaffeur.
Anna O'Halleran 30 Born Ireland Immigrated 1910.
John J O'Halleran 6 months
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks as always for all your help. Is it possible to find a petition for naturalization or there passport applications. As they were born in Ireland are they on any ships logs?
Thanks for all you help and all your hard work is much appreciated.
Kieran
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We only have the 1920 census with John O Halloran Snr on - he presumably had a passport before he left Ireland, his immigration was supposedly 1912, Anna 1910 - they don't seem to have arrived together. Were they even married then, the first child is John Joseph in 1919 ? I could'nt see Passport Application, any Naturalization or Passenger List to fit him or them. Sorry, drawn a blank ???
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your help. I was wondering if you can find anything for
Rose McGuigan born 1910 died 1987 who married Joseph Eberhardt in 1946.
or her sister Elizabeth McGuigan born in 1916 and died 1988 who married Robert Edwin Nolte in 1952. Edward was born in 1913 and died 1967.
I would be very grateful if you can find any death notices so I can find where they are buried.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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SSDI Record
Rose Eberhardt
Born: 15 Jun 1910
Died: Jul 1987
Last Residence: 10520 Croton On Hudson, Westchester, New York,
SSN issued in : New York (Before 1951)
Presuming Joseph Eberhardt was born around the same year as Rose - then this would be a possibility for a death record:
Joseph Eberhardt
Born: 26 Aug 1910
Died: Mar 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
US Veterans Gravesites
Joseph Eberhardt Born 26 Aug 1910 Died 11 March 19
SGT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1910
Death Date: 11 Mar 1972
Interment Date: 15 Mar 1972
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section 2u Site 3441
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SSDI Record
Elizabeth Nolte
Born: 11 Nov 1916
Died: 23 Aug 1988
Last Residence: 11214 Brooklyn, Kings, New York,
SSN was issued: New York (Before 1951)
SSDI Record
Name: Robert Nolte
Born: 30 Aug 1913
Died in May 1967
SSN was issued: New York (Before 1951)
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Regarding Catherine/Kathryn that makes her born 1886 - which is another different date ???
Name: Kathryn Duryea
Born: 28 Oct 1886
Died: Jun 1968
Last Residence: 11510 Baldwin, Nassau, New York.
Hi Sandra,
I have more details on Kathryn she was married to Marge Molly and got divorced and remarried Harold Duryeau
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Really unsure abour Harold, not really enough to go on. There are a few Harold Duryea so it would be difficult to tell which one.
IF that is the correct death record for Kathryn Duryea, the last residence was 11510
The nearest death record is the one below BUT would this gentleman not be alot younger than Kathryn ??? :-
SSDI Record
Harold Duryea
Born 14 June 1902
Died Aug 1982
Last Residence/Benefit: 11530 Garden City, Nassau, New York
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SSDI Record
Rose Eberhardt
Born: 15 Jun 1910
Died: Jul 1987
Last Residence: 10520 Croton On Hudson, Westchester, New York,
SSN issued in : New York (Before 1951)
Presuming Joseph Eberhardt was born around the same year as Rose - then this would be a possibility for a death record:
Joseph Eberhardt
Born: 26 Aug 1910
Died: Mar 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
US Veterans Gravesites
Joseph Eberhardt Born 26 Aug 1910 Died 11 March 19
SGT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1910
Death Date: 11 Mar 1972
Interment Date: 15 Mar 1972
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section 2u Site 3441
Really unsure abour Harold, not really enough to go on. There are a few Harold Duryea so it would be difficult to tell which one.
IF that is the correct death record for Kathryn Duryea, the last residence was 11510
The nearest death record is the one below BUT would this gentleman not be alot younger than Kathryn ??? :-
SSDI Record
Harold Duryea
Born 14 June 1902
Died Aug 1982
Last Residence/Benefit: 11530 Garden City, Nassau, New York
SSDI Record
Rose Eberhardt
Born: 15 Jun 1910
Died: Jul 1987
Last Residence: 10520 Croton On Hudson, Westchester, New York,
SSN issued in : New York (Before 1951)
Presuming Joseph Eberhardt was born around the same year as Rose - then this would be a possibility for a death record:
Joseph Eberhardt
Born: 26 Aug 1910
Died: Mar 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
US Veterans Gravesites
Joseph Eberhardt Born 26 Aug 1910 Died 11 March 19
SGT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1910
Death Date: 11 Mar 1972
Interment Date: 15 Mar 1972
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section 2u Site 3441
Hi Sandra,
Thanks you very much for all the information. This has really helped me as I have found someone who will go and take a photo of the headstone.
If you can find out where anyone else is buried I would be moe than grateful.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. I have made a bit of a discovery and was hoping you could help me with it.
Mary McKernan born 7th May 1877 is showning up in the 13th June 1900 census she immigrated in America 4 years prior in 1896 so I am hoping that you can help me get a ships entry for her. However, her surname was spelt as McKernin. She is also listed with her cousins the Gardince. William, Ann C etc Can you find anything on this couple was Ann orginally called McKernan or O'Neill?
I would be very grateful of any help you can give me with this
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Not finding Mary McKernan on a passenger list at the moment. Ann was a McKernan according to this Census.
William and Anna are called Gardiner in 1910 Brooklyn Ward 19, Kings, New York
William J Gardiner 50 Marriage 1 for 15 years. Born Ireland. Manufacturer of Shoes
Anna C Gardiner 37 Born NY. Had 4 children and 4 survive.
George H Gardiner 14
William A Gardiner 13
Anna Gardiner 12
Mary E Gardiner 7
Anthony Mckernan 70 Born Ireland. father-In-Law. Marriage 1 for 42 years. Immigrated 1858. Clerk. ...?...Factory
Mary A Mckernan 70 Born Ireland. Mother-In-Law. Immigrate 1861. Had 2 children and 1 survives.
Annie Killian 20 Servant
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Don't see William J Gardiner in 1920 but would this be him in New York City Deaths ? Age is correct ?
Gardiner William 53 y Oct 29 1913 31001 Manhattan
The WW1 Draft for George Gardiner born 28 April 1895. Single. Occupation Shoe Buyer. Gives his Mother as person who will always know him and is dated June 5th 1917. So that could perhaps be an indication the death above is William ? Address iwas given as:- 1249 E 34 Street.
WW2 Draft
George Hamilton Gardiner - Born 28 Apr 1895
Birth Place: New York City
Residence: Kings, New York
Name of person who will always know you Anna C Gardiner (Mother - same address)
Employer:-Coward Shoe Co. Empire State Building. New York
SSDI Record
George Gardiner
Born 28th April 1895
Last Residence: 11210 Brooklyn, Kings, New York.
Last Benefit: 11375 Flushing, Queens, New York.
Died: Apr 1980 SSN was issued: Maine (Before 1951)
New York City Births 1891 - 1902
George H. Gardiner 28 May 1895 - 19104 - Births Reported in May, 1895.
William Gardiner 19 Jul 1897 - 29962 - Births Reported in July, 1897.
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1900 Census Manhattan, New York,
Anthony Mckernan 60 Jan 1840. Married 1867. Immigrated 1858. Dry Goods Salesman.
Mary A Mckernan 56 May 1844. Had 3 children 1 survives. Married 33 years.
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1880 Census New York City, New York
Anthony Mckernon 40 Clerk in Store
Mary Mckernon 35
Annie Mckernon 9
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Possibilty, although age is wrong.
1870 Census New York Ward 20 District 15 (2nd Enum), New York.
Anthony Mckernon 36 Born Ireland. OccupationRetail Liquors
Mary McKernon 29 Born Ireland.
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Do you have any idea of the birth location of Anthony McKernan ???
I noticed this entry - again the birth year varies but we know that sometimes is incorrect. Will send with everything else and let you decipher in your own time.
New York Emigrants Savings Bank.
Name: Anthony Mckiernan Born about 1837
Kiltribred Leitrim
Address (Difficult to read - 7 Wooster Street ???
Occupation Porter
Parents in Ireland + Mary - M Loughlin ???
Account 26111 - Transaction Date: 3 Dec 1860
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Various Passemger Lists which could very well be your Anthony - can't see another of this age group in New York.
UK Incoming Passenger List
Anthony Mckernan
Born abt 1839
Age: 69
Port of Departure: New York - Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland - Arriving 10 July 1908
Ship Name: Celtic
UK Incoming Passenger List
Name: Anthony Mckernan
Born: abt 1841 Age: 51
Port of Departure: New York. - Port of Arrival: Queenstown, Ireland. Arriving 19 June 1892
Ship Name: Servia
Occupation:- Clerk
New York Passenger List
Name: Anthony Mckernan. Born about 1839 Age: 69
Occupation could be Lock-keeper ???
Last permanent address was in New York. Had been in USA 50 years (which fits)
Address 504 W 151 St New York NY
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland to New York on SS Celtic Arriving 22 August 1908
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Possibility SSDI Record (Not convinced on this one Kieran - have seen a WW1 draft with the same date of birth for William R Gardiner with a father born in Glasgow ???)
William Gardiner
Born: 23 May 1897
Died: Jan 1956
SSN was issued: New York (Before 1951)
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you very much for all your hard work. Not sure yet how all these people link in. I would be very grateful if you could try and find out who Ann McKernans parents were William Gardiners wife.
Or maybe in maybe possible to find a death notice for Ann or her husband?
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Sorry Kieran, Anthony and Mary came from Ireland originally, managed to locate them back to 1870 but you will need to make enquiries in Ireland. Did my best with the extra passenger list info for Anthony but saw nothing else.
Did not see any death record listed on www.italiangen.org for Anthony either.
Anna C was alive and listed on George Hamilton Gardiner's WW2 draft so must have died later than that date ???
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Hi Kieran,
Not finding Mary McKernan on a passenger list at the moment. Ann was a McKernan according to this Census.
William and Anna are called Gardiner in 1910 Brooklyn Ward 19, Kings, New York
William J Gardiner 50 Marriage 1 for 15 years. Born Ireland. Manufacturer of Shoes
Anna C Gardiner 37 Born NY. Had 4 children and 4 survive.
George H Gardiner 14
William A Gardiner 13
Anna Gardiner 12
Mary E Gardiner 7
Anthony Mckernan 70 Born Ireland. father-In-Law. Marriage 1 for 42 years. Immigrated 1858. Clerk. ...?...Factory
Mary A Mckernan 70 Born Ireland. Mother-In-Law. Immigrate 1861. Had 2 children and 1 survives.
Annie Killian 20 Servant
Hi Sandra,
Mary McKernan is on the row beneath Anna Gardiner.
It says she is a cousin.
Thanks for all your ehlp as always
Kieran
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Re:- Reply 105
The Marriage of Joan M Emericks to Donald McGuigan (Son of Bernard McGuigan)- Oct 24th 1953.
Just enter Donald McGuigan (exact phrase and its 9th entry)
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
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Reply 87 - Margaret Scheer.
Ypnkers New York Herald Statesman 1971
Mrs Margaret E C Sheer, aged 65 years died yesterday at her home at 139 Elwood Avenue. Born in the Bronx, Mrs Sheer had lived in this area for 36 years. She was a member of the Women's Auxillary of the Hawthorn Fire Department and was a Communicant of Holy Rosary Church. She was survived by husband John ( who died later in 1999) a son of Queens. New York and 2 daughters etc.,
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your recent work and great that I can get copies of the newspaper articles. I would really love to get the death notices for the O'Halloran parents or children as this would help work out if this is the right family.
Thanks as always for all your hard work it is very much appreciated.
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
I have made a few attempts on those over the weeks but cannot find anything I'm afraid. John and Francis deaths were both Philadelphia so perhaps contact a public library in that area. Checked for RAOGK in Dade where Vincent died but could'nt see one. Again the only alternative I could think of would be the nearest public library.
Regards
Sandra :(
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your help. I have made a few discoveries. Remember Barbara Moyes she married Defelice and also graduated at a University but I don't know which one.
Also remember Kathryn Diamond (1886 - 1968) she married first to surname Molly and then a got divorced after 9 years and married Harold Duryea.
Patrick Diamond was killed in WW1 and Ann (1886) disappeared in Mississippi.
James Joseph Diamond (1892 -1956) married in 1921 to Mary Agnes Moss (1898 - 1959) and had two children James Thomas (1926 - 2006) and Francis Patrick born in 1929.
I am not sure what you will be able to find on any of these but thought it was worth a try.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
I hope all is well with you. I have just found another record and was wondering if you can find out anything else on it.
Given Name: Mary
Surname: Farren
Last Place of Residence: Derry
Date of Arrival: 20 Apr 1899
Age at Arrival: 24y
Ethnicity: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York
Gender: Female
Marital Status: S
US Citizen:
Ship of Travel: Ethiopia
Collection: New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924
Can you find out what her parents were called
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
I see the passenger list which you refer to, Mary seems to be travelling with Ellen Farren aged 26 (possibly her sister). Unfortunately there does'nt seem to be that second page that may have given further information, re parents etc., I wonder if this is Mary on the 1900 Census Brooklyn Ward 23, Kings, New York working for the Rawson family but then the trail goes cold again :( Does'nt appear to be a marriage for Mary or Ellen in New York City under Farren or Farron
Perry B Rawson 24 Margaret A Rawson 24
Margaret P Rawson 1 Rachel L Patterson 63
Mary Farren 23 Born Ireland Sept 1876. Single. Immigrated 1899. Servant
Will send you a pm with details of a possible contact in connection with the Diamond family, hope this will be helpful to you.
Regards Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. This does look like her but it could be Robert Farrens two sisters this could be her birth
Mary Farren, born 1872 in Newtownlimavady
This could be Ellen Farren
Ellen Farren, born 21 Sep 1874 in Derry, Londonderry, Ireland to Edward Farren and Catharine Mcgill Farren
Kieran
Is it possible to get any death notice for either of them
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Hello Kieran,
With reference to one of the Diamond brothers with a wife Joan whose death is below. RAOGK have volunteer in Sonoma. California who will do Obituary look-ups in the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. Wonder if that would be worth a try to get an Obituary notice for her ???
http://www.raogk.org/californ4.htm
Joan Diamond
Born: 1 Aug 1933
Died: 22 Jul 2001
Last Residence: 95404 Santa Rosa, Sonoma, California.
SSN issued: New York (1952-1953)
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Kieran,
Longshot Kieran but just to make you aware of this one. Where is Ballynease. Ireland ? Came across a family tree with a Mary Ann Farren born Jan 1875 in Ballynease, Ireland Died 20 April 1910 in Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Married to a William Henry with 2 sons - Hugh 1905 and Harry 1907. They have a sister-in-law Catherine Farren with them in 1910 ??? The birth year for Mary Ann would be out on what you think and immigration not right either. ??? Parents Hhugh Farren and Catherine Gurt ???
1910 Census Philadelphia Ward 15, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
William Henry 31 Born ireland. Marriage 1 for 6 years
Mary Ann Henry 40 Born Ireland. had 3 children and 2 survive. Immigrated 1894
Hugh Henry 4
Henry Henry 2
Catharine Farrin 25 Born Ireland. Sister -In-Law. Immigrated 1906
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your helpful advice as always you get the information for me. I have looked at the RAOGK volunteers in Sonoma. Do you mean to conact Tom Cole?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Yes, TC thats the one I thought might be worth a whirl. The other one said may require reimbursement.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Don't think this is the right Farrens as Ballynease is in Portglenone and not Claudy/Limavady.
I will keep this on the backburner as you never know maybe they are related. Do they have a Robert Farren listed in the tree. Also I have been talking to my aunties and they seem to think that Francis Patrick Diamond had a tree online. He had two siblings Kevin Michael born in 1953 and married Nell Koch and Laura Susan Diamond born in 1956 who married Matthew Laughlin.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Thought it would be a longshot but sometimes you never know. Who is Robert Farren and when was he born please ? I am unsure of the relationships on this one.
Presume Edward is the father and Catherine the mother with 3 children Robert, Mary and Ellen and they are from Derry. Is that right ? Sent pm on other subject.
Regards
Sandra 8)
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Hi Kieran,
Found the entry:-
JAMES JOSEPH DIAMOND - Born15 October 1890 in Ireland Died 25 April 1956
in Healdsburg, California, USA - only has the father and son listed. No further details. Last logged in this month.
I could make the contact if you wished to do so - I still have your e-mail addy from July if that is still current.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. By all means make contact for me as this would be great to make contact.
You have made me smile as you often do
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Robert Farren is my great great grandfather he married Margaret Mclaughlin and they had two children that I can find William in 21 September 1869 and Elizabeth born on 17 May 1880. Robert Farren a Blacksmith was from Muldonagh in Newtown Limavady.
I hope this helps
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Your most welcome Kieran. Wish we could unravel a few more of the mysteries for you. So do you suspect Mary Farren 1874 ish and Ellen are other children of Robert and Margaret ?
A smile - is a frown turned upside down. :)
A smile - is painted on the face of a clown.
A smile - brightens a dreary day.
A smile - chases tears away.
A smile - is a gift that shows you care.
A smile - is priceless no matter where.
A smile - is the key to happiness.
A smile - a sure sign of success.
Regards
Sandra :)
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Roman wasn't build in a day and neither is a family tree. I am not sure how Mary and Ellen fit in yet but hopefully it will all become clear yet.
Thanks as always you are really helpful.
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Gone back over the thread looking for where we touched on James Joseph Diamond and Mary Agnes Moss and the 2 sons but could'nt see much.
So I will post this info - forgive me if I am repeating. Since the death of Mary A Diamond was also in Sonoma, perhaps the RAOGK volunteer we mentioned previously would also be able to help out with an Obituary for Mary ???
California Death Index
Mary A Diamond - [Mary A Moss]
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1898 - Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 9 Oct 1959 - Death Place: Sonoma
Mother's Maiden Name: Shipsey
Father's Surname: Moss
US Veterans Gravesites
James J Diamond. Born 15 Oct 1892 Died 25 April 1956
Service Info.: PFC US ARMY WORLD WAR I
Service Start Date: 21 Sep 1917
Interment Date: 27 Apr 1956
Cemetery: Golden Gate National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 1300 Sneath Lane San Bruno, CA 94066
Buried At: Section W Site 2084
US Veterans Gravesites
Mary A Diamond - Birth Date: 8 Apr 1898
Death Date: 9 Oct 1959
Service Info.: PFC US ARMY
Relation: Wife of Diamond, James J
Interment Date: 13 Oct 1959
Cemetery - Golden Gate National Cemetery
Cemetery Address - 1300 Sneath Lane San Bruno, CA 94066
Buried - Section W Site 2084
Regards
Sandra
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WW1 Draft Dated:- June 5th 1917. I can't recall sending you this record.
James Joseph Diamond born 15 Oct 1892 Maghera. Londonderry. Ireland. Described as Alien so had not applied for Naturalization at this date. Had a father who was dependant on him. Single.
He was of medium height and build. Hazel eyes and brown hair.
Dated June 5th 1917 in Precinct 25/28. San Francisco. California.
We had James and Mary on the 1930 Census - This shows James on the 1920 Census San Francisco Assembly District 24, San Francisco, California.
Margaret Thaskray 76
James J Diamond 27 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1909. Boarder. NA 19. (Presume 1919) Occupation:- Painter
US Natualization
James Joseph Diamond residing at Camp Lewis. Wash Occupation:- Soldier. Born 15 October 1892 at Maghera. Ireland. Entered the USA on 15 November 1909 at New York on SS California. States he is not married and has no children at this date. Resided in the State of Washington continously 15 November 1909 to 21 September 1917.
Avidavits to the petition were given by Lieut Archie M edward and Lieut C M Jones.
On a continuing page 22 June 1918 it looks as if he did not appear and the petition was dismissed without prejudice.
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks again for all the helpful information. You didn't send this before and it is really helpful as it tells me where they are buried. On ancestory can you see if you can find trees for Allison in Grangemouth Sterling Scotland as I have been told there are 4 trees on it.
You have been really helpful as you always are
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Thought we had'nt much on James Joseph -
These 2 entries say specifically Grangemouth Sterlingshire. - Adam Buchanan Allison -Born 1879 in Grangemouth, Stirling, Scotland Died in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland. Married to Isabella Kemp Born 2 June 1878 in Knockbain, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Died 7 January 1967 in Wishaw, England. Had 1 son and 1 daughter.
Also a James Allison 10 Oct 1862 in Muiravonside. Sirlingshire. Scotland Married to a Jane Turnbull. Living in Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, Scotland in 1901 with 3 sons and 2 daughters.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
My grandfathers brother John McKernon had a daughter called Mary McGettigan nee McKernon was married to Joseph Allison his father was Joseph Allison Muiravonside. Stirlingshire. Scotland. I am having real trouble finding the resting place of my grandfathers brother John McKernon who died in 1903.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Yes, a number of entries for different Joseph Allison's, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire - many with a son of the same name but none give any other details beyond that. Sorry. :(
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for looking is there any information working back for Joseph Allison.
Thanks
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Can you find anything onBernard McGuigan born on 1904 and died in 1970 and married (1926) Ann M Gregory (Wife) who was born in 1907 and had (*) born in 1933 and married (1959) (*) born in 1933 and (*) was born in 1947 and married in (1970) to (*) born in 1947.
I would be very grateful of any help with this
Thanks
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
What are the parents names of Bernard McGuigan ? A number of entries but want to make sure I have the right one.
Thank You
Sandra
PM sent re above
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Bernards father was James McGuigan 1837 - 1919 and Catherine McQuade 1876 - 1943.
Thanks
Kieran
Ps can you please check on ancestory to see if you find anything on the surname Kearnan in Londonderry Ireland
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Just had a quick scan of what we have already and Bernard McGuigan was in replies 101, 102, 103, 104.
Can't really help with Kearnan in Londonderry though. Sorry. :(
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Sorry to be a pain but how do I find 101, 102 etc.
Does Kearnan appear anywhere in America as this is the way my family were referred to in the 1831 census and there are a lots of them that I can not find anything on at all so I assume that they maybe went to America.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Each reply has a number - if you go back to about page 7 then you should start to find Bernard, Ann, Donald etc.,
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The surname Kearnan does crop up on US Census/Naturalization/Passenger Lists etc., from 1850.
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Hi Sandra,
Thats great.
Does an Andrew along with a wife Bridget. Or Mary, Pat, Patrick or Thomas appear and if so does it say they were from Londonderry Northern Ireland.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your help. I have made a few discoveries. Remember Barbara Moyes she married Defelice and also graduated at a University but I don't know which one.
Also remember Kathryn Diamond (1886 - 1968) she married first to surname Molly and then a got divorced after 9 years and married Harold Duryea.
Patrick Diamond was killed in WW1 and Ann (1886) disappeared in Mississippi.
I am not sure what you will be able to find on any of these but thought it was worth a try.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
The post above is almost identical to post 151. I remember sending you a contact for the Moyes family much earlier. Perhaps they could help you with details of the lady above - my apologises, she is a living person and there is no further information covering her time - frame that I can find for you. Perhaps you could try whitepages and similar to try and locate her. The only entry I came across, gave the wrong middle initial.
Kathryn Diamond we could never find which Harold Duryea she married. There were quite a number of that name in the New York area.
The earlier passenger lists don't always give a specific place in Ireland where the person is travelling from - we would need dates of birth etc to track Kearnan in the USA, there are quite a number.
Also received a pm from you asking about another lady - we would need the details of her date/place of birth etc on here to be able to help on that one.
Sorry to seem to be unhelpful this time.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your information.
Kathryn Diamond got married twice firstly to Molly and then to Duryea.
I guess the Kearnans dates would start from births from 1796 onwards.
As for the pm message I recon she would be in her 40's
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help as always. Can you find anything on this record
Name: Andrew Kirman
Arrival Date: 22 Apr 1848
Age: 30
Gender: M (Male)
Port of Arrival: New York
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Place of Origin: Ireland
Ship: Aurora
Is he listed with anyone else such as Bridget and daughter Margaret born in 03 Feb 1848 after that I can find no more children.
As always I am very grateful of all your help.
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Unfortunately it is one of those that does not have an image for me to view.
However, on the Catlegarden.org site by just putting the ship in and playing about with the surname - the name:- Andrew Kernan - Mechanic. Aged 30 years comes up (no other Kernan travelling with him)
Ann Kearney Age 20 Gentleman's Servant ???
and Thomas Kearney Farmer Aged 20
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help as always. Is there anyway of tracking to see what Andrew did after going to America. Does he happen to show up in any census with the family?
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
This is a sample of some of the earlier Kearnan/Kiernan/Kerman that I can see but I have no way of telling if Andrew would be the correct one for you - there is not enough detail ???
1880 Census New York City, New York, New York
Mary Duffy 40
Kate Duffy 21
Thomas Duffy 18
Francis Duffy 15
Mary Duffy 12
Andrew Keirnan 60 Born Ireland. Paper-Carrier. Boarder
Rose Keirnan 45 Born Ireland Medical Condition:- Liver Complaint.
1870 New Britain, Hartford, Connecticut
Andrew Kearnan 53 Born Ireland. Labourer. Value of Real Estate $1000
Mary Kearnan 51
1870 Census Newburgh Ward 1, Orange, New York
Andrew Kerman 50 Born Ireland. Labourer. Real estate $500
Margaret Kerman 38
David Kerman 10 Born NY
Patrick Kerman 8 Born NY
Margaret Kerman 6 Born NY
Ellen Kerman 4 Born NY
Johanah Shay 50 Born Ireland. Boarder. Works in Mill
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your help. Yes this is a real puzzle and it seems Andrew and wife Bridget are hard to find.
Are you able to find any marriage record for Bridget Agnes Hanna married on the 28 December 1925 at the Annunciation Church, Convent Avenue, New York.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hello Kieran.
Apologises, cleaning out my messages and came across this one 6 th October that slipped the net.
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help and sending the message to Elizabeth. Yes the other tree is correct also
Could you find the obituary notice for my cousin Patrick Haggerty died April 19, 1959? He may have lived in NY or California.
Apparently one fo the Haggertys were possibly married to one of the Diamonds.
Thanks for all your help as always you are a star
Kieran
The California Death Index includes 1940 - 1997 but I cannot see Patrick Haggerty listed in 19 April 1959. Its also just a little to early for the SSDI Index I'm afraid.
There is a Patrick Francis Haggerty who died Jan 1959 Florida who was a resident of Windham. Connecticut born 1898.
Sorry I am unable to find the marriage entry for Bridget Agnes Hanna 28 Dec 1925 New York. You have quite a few mysteries in New York and I wondered if this information might assist you.
The best location in The New York Public Library for historical and genealogical research is the Stephen A. Schwarzman Building Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy (http://www.nypl.org/locations/schwarzman/milstein-division-us-history-local-history-genealogy), 476 5th Ave. and 42nd St., Rm. 121.
Contact information, including e-mail address, for the Genealogy Division is as follows:
First Floor, Room 121
Phone: (212) 930-0828
E-mail: histref@nypl.org
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Kieran,
Profound apologises, found another one on the 8th October but I am sure you will understand that was my horribilis "period" if you remember.
Hi Sandra,
As always you find me the information to help me complete more research. Can you find a obituary notice for my cousin Patrick Haggerty died April 19, 1959.
Also can you find out where Catherine McQuade 1876 - 20 March 1943 was buried? Did she remarry after James McGuigan died on the 1st August 1919.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Think I have explained about cousin Patrick. Catherine was not recorded as having married again, the index only goes to 1937 at the moment but the death record in 1943 was still showing her as Catherine McGuigan. If I remember correctly we did find many Mcguigans through Interment records for Calcary Cemetery. (Reply 109)Have you tried contacting the Cemetery about that one ? Could be a good possibility she was also buried there.
Hope I am up to date with you now.
Sandra ;)
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Hi Sandra,
I hope all is well and eas wondering if you can find me anything on the following family:
Mary McGuigan (James McGuigan) sister married Dennis Haggerty and their children were:
Patrick Haggerty
Catherine
Mary
Bernard(d. 1957 and wife Grace Redmond- Haggerty (d. 1992) buried at the Holy Cross Cemetery, CA.
Rose (nun)
His brother Patrick J. Haggerty and wife Gertrude are buried at Long Island National Cemetery but I don't know when they died?
I would be very grateful of any help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
Yes, thank you - all getting sorted now.
This must be the family we looking at - so I'll pop this here - more for my benefit than yours so that I can refresh my memory and see what can be found.
1920 - Dennis and Mary living in Manhattan Assembly District 20, New York, New York.
Children all born New York
Dennis Haggerty 56 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1882. NA 1890. Watchman at photo-studio
Mary Haggerty 48 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1889. NA 1890
Patrick Haggerty 26 Born Sept 1893. Clerk in brokers office.
Catherine Haggerty 25 Born May 1894 Operator. Childrens xxx ???
Mary Haggerty 21 Born Jan 1898. Operator Corset Factory
Bernard Haggerty 19 Clerk in Brokers Office.
Rose Haggerty 17 Operator Telephone Co
1910 shows an extra son Michael Haggerty aged 17 years. Born April 1891 (Office Boy for Insurance Company) It also says Mary had 8 children and 6 survive -
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Michael Haggerty was born April 1891. There is a WW1 Draft for Michael J Haggerty. Single. Manhattan born 21 April 1891 living at 413 E122 NY. Occupation Clerk. Wilcox & xxxxx 3 South William.
WW2 Draft Michael James Haggerty Born 21 st April 1892. Born New York City. Residence 141 St Marks Road. New Brighton. S1. Has a wife called Anna. Employers Name:- Larsen Baking Co. Could be Clorr Road S1 ???
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Michael with wife Anna and children living in Richmond, New York in 1930
Michael J Haggerty 37 Married at 27 years. Adjuster. Insurance
Anna Haggerty 34 Born NY. Married at 24 years
Dorothy Haggerty 9 Born NY.
Elaine Haggerty 6 Born NY
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New York Passenger List shows Elaine Haggerty. Born 1923 New York. Aged 29 years. Travelling Bermusa to New York arriving 28 Nov 1952 on Ship Named - Queen of Bermuda. Her address is 141 St Marks Place. Staten Island. New York.
(Same as the WW2 Draft for Michael - roughly)
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks again for all your help. As always you find information could you please send me any copies of the information that you found. I have been told that my grandfathers sister Annie McKernan nee O'Halloran may have been living somewhere near the America Canadian boarder. I haven't a clue where that would be. Have you any ideas? I would love to get to the bottom of this.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Sorry have'nt got a clue where that could be - the American/Canadian border is the longest in the world. Need to re-read this thread to find out about Annie.
Regards
Sandra
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Dorothy Haggerty remained unmarried by the look of an SSDI Record -
Dorothy M. Haggerty. Born: 16 Apr 1920 and Died: 26 Dec 1994
Last Residence: 10301 Staten Island, Richmond, New York,.
SSN was issued in New York (Before 1951)
It appears Dorothy still lived at the address: 141 Saint Marks Pl Apt 2h, Staten Island, NY, 10301 in 1974
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His brother Patrick J. Haggerty and wife Gertrude are buried at Long Island National Cemetery but I don't know when they died?
I would be very grateful of any help
Kieran
US Veterans Gravesites shows:- Gertrude C Haggerty. Born 15 July 1895 Died 19th July 1990. Wife of Haggerty, Patrick Joseph
Service Info.: CPL US ARMY
Interment Date: 23 Jul 1990 - Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section T Site 3772
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0aib/
Regards
Sandra
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US Veterans Gravesites shows: Patrick Joseph Haggerty -CPL US Army World War I. Service Start Date: 27 May 1918
Born 4 Sep 1894 and Died 19 Apr 1959 - Interment Date: 23 Apr 1959
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section T Site 3773
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0aia/
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
I hope you had a very nice Christmas and New Year. Well when I was at home in December I met up with my auntie and her husband. Anyway he was telling me that he is supposed to be related to Buddy Holly so i said to him I would try and find out for him if this is the case. Apparently, Buddy Holly was born in Texas on the September 7, 1936. Is there anyway of finding out who his parents were.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
Hope you enjoyed your trip. Lawrence Odell Holley - Born Nov-4-1901 in Lubbock, Lubbock County, Texas and died July-8-1985 in Lubbock, Lubbock County, Texas.
Married to Ella Pauline Drake about 1924.
Ella Pauline Drake - Born 29 Aug 1902 in Bridgeport, Wise, Texas and Died 20 May 1990 in Lubbock, Lubbock, Texas. They had 3 sons and 2 daughters.
Article on Buddy Holly:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly
http://www.accuracyproject.org/cbe-Holly,Buddy.html
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bt8/
Regards
Sandra
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http://www.genealogy.com/famousfolks/buddyh/index.html
http://www.genealogy.com/famousfolks/buddyh/sources.htm
Is this uncle any relation to the Diamonds, etc., above or should this be a separate thread?
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HI Kierran
Sister - Patricia Lou Holley
Born7 Mar 1929 in Lubbock, Texas, and died 25 Sep 2008 in Lubbock, Texas.
Obituary on the link below:-
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bt6/
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all this. Yes this should have been a new thread as this is to do with my uncle Thomas White. He was also telling me that we are related to the country and western singer Philomena Beggley. This is on my mums fathers side of the house Farrens. It is through Agnes Farren who married Leacock Portlengone in Co Derry.
Is there any trees on ancestory with Philomenas family in it or any trees for Farrens the Derry region.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
I cannot see any trees in the lasies name - Unfortunately I can't go into details on here because she is a living person.
This link will give you a little on her personal life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philomena_Begley
Regards
Sandra
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Can you delete this post as I have found the family all died early in Magherafelt Ireland apart from Adam and Hugh.
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Hello Kieran,
Pleased you found your family. Sorry I can't delete your post - you need the expertise of shellyesq for that.
Think we are completed on the Diamonds though.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. I have another connection with the Diamonds remember Helen was married Henry / Harry Bradley. Well he had three nephews I think one was called Jerry McOscar who lived in Philadelphia? I have't got a clue what age he would be.
Anyway of getting his email address so that I can contact him?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
Sorry this is another likely living person - you could try white pages, people finder and facebook to see if you can locate entries in Philadelphia. Perhaps he goes under Gerald.
All the best
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks as always for your help.
I have located someone with the name and have e-mailed them. Back to the Diamonds Annie Diamond married Mullholland and had two sons James and Patrick. Patricks wife died in May / June 1974 as my aunt has found a letter saying so.
Also is there any chance of finding out where Ann Martel married John Diamond born 1931 died 2003 is buried maybe in Connecticut Cheshire.
Ann DIAMOND
Birth Date: 10 Aug 1931
Death Date: 10 Sep 2003
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Vermont
His sister Gerry married Samuel Crowley died 2002
Is this him
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1927
Death Date: 28 Jun 2002
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: California. Do you know where he is buried
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
There is an RAOGK Volunteer in New Haven Connecticut who will do research on vital records and obituaries for Hamden, New Haven, North Haven and Wallingford. Also, pictures of cemetery stones in the same cities and towns.
Perhaps if you e-mail the volunteer and she could find the Obituary, it might say which funeral home or where Ann was buried. First on the list for New Haven on the link below.
http://www.raogk.org/connecti.htm
John P. Diamond. Born about 1932 and aged 22 years (Mothers Name Bridget Cahallan and Father John) Married Ann Martel born about 1931 and aged 23 years (Mothers Maiden Name Marie Lawrence and Father J Armand Martel)) 25 September 1954 Ludlow. Windsor. Vermont.
John P Diamond lived at 8 Pine Street. Mt Kisco. New York.
Ann Marie Martel lived at 8 Pleassant Street. Ludlow. Vermont.
Would need more info on the Mulholland family.
Regards
Sandra
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Hello Kieran,
There is a RAOGK Volunteer in Tehama. California who will do Obituary look ups.
Perhaps if you can locate the Obituary - it may give the information of where he is buried. First on the list of the link below.
Sam S. Crowley. Born 18 April 1927 and Died 28 June 2002
Last Residence: 96080 Red Bluff, Tehama, California,.
SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
http://www.raogk.org/californ5.htm
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
Thanks for all your help I have emailed the volunteers like you suggested. Lets hope they are able to find something. Would the Mullhollands not come up in the census?
Patrick lived with his wife and her sister. Annie Diamond Mullholland was born in Scotland on the 17th November 1884. Her parents were Patrick Diamond and Susan McGuigan.
Would there be a passport application for her?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
I am really hoping that this information might bring some clues to find Annie McKernan and she is listed as a seamstress
She is in the 1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Draperstown/Drumderg/1543945/
but not in the 1911 so must have left Ireland between 1901 and 1911. She was maybe marriedto O'Halloran but not sure of this. My aunties remember there father saying that she was nearly on the Titanic so that would be around 1910 - 1911.
I would love to find a link on her as there would probably be family relations still alive in America.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Sandra
Patrick lived with his wife and her sister. Annie Diamond Mullholland was born in Scotland on the 17th November 1884. Her parents were Patrick Diamond and Susan McGuigan.
Would there be a passport application for her?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Were Annie Diamond and Patrick Mulholland married in Scotland ? Were Patrick or James born in Scotland ?
BW
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Annie was more like married in America. Her two sons Patrick and James would of been born in America so thats why I thought they might be found in the census under Mulholland?
Thanks
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
There are lots of Mulholland on Census records so you need to be more specific with the details - we need a time frame to work to. There are 217 replies on this thread and going back to look at the information already given - in reply 3 we have Patrick Diamond and Susan in New York with Anna born 1884 - I presume this is the Anna you mean. In reply 15 Patrick, Susan and daughter Anna are in Maghera for the 1911 Census (Anna unmarried). Later in reply 32 - Susan Helen Diamond goes to either Catherine/Kathryn or Annie and we know Susan applied for a Passport in New York in 1919. Perhaps the marriage of Anna to Patrick Mulholland could have been during this period 1911 - 1919 ??? I can see a death record for Anna Mulholland born 22 November 1984 (date a few days out from your Anna) died Jan 1968 Philadelphia. Pennsylvania but can't see a suitable family in Pennsylvania or New York. I have checked for a passenger list for Anna Diamond or Anna Mulholland returning to the USA after 1911 and cannot see one. So no luck.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all yoyur help. I have thought of another way to find the family. I know Annie's son Patrick his wife died in May 1974 as it stated in the letter my auntie has.
Could either of these be Patricks wife?
Alice MULHOLLAND - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 8 Jun 1921 State Where Number was Issued: New York Death: May 1974
Jeanette MULHOLLAND - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 31 Oct 1923 State Where Number was Issued: Illinois Death: May 1974
Hopefully this might help find them
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
You could try looking through the site below if you think that they were in New York - often has Obituaries, Marriages etc (site a little slow to load but will eventually settle)
http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
What was the address on the letter Auntie received in reply 211 ?
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
The address on the letter was from Helen so that isn't going to give any clues as she lived in the Bronx New York. She was telling my aunties about the sad news about Patricks wife but didn't state her name.
Thats why the information I have isn't great.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
Sorry - have'nt had much luck with Diamond/Mulholland yet. Went back to Patrick Diamond Passenger List in reply 8 - you should have a copy of that one - it referred to Patricks return to New York in 1913.
It states he had been in New York from 1898 - 1908, it also names his daughter as Mrs Kate Walters - 875 E 180 Street. NY. Tthis the daughter that you thought had married a Duryea ??? Wondering if Catherine was married twice ??? What do you reckon ?
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. As far as I know Catherine married twice once to Marge Molly and then to Harold Duryea I got this information from a cousin. I have been able to get one of the death notices and will hopefully get the other one next week.
Did you have any look with the McKernan information this seems another brick wall.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
PS She died called Kathryn M Duryea on 15 June 1968
Kathryn DURYEA
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1886
Death Date: Jun 1968
Social Security Number: 090-09-5939
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New York
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 11510
Localities: Baldwin, Nassau, New York
Baldwin Harbor, Nassau, New York
N Baldwin, Nassau, New York
North Baldwin, Nassau, New York
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Hello Kieran,
Yes, I have re-read all that today but have a look at the information on that 1913 passenger list and you will see she is mentioned as daughter Mrs Kate Walters. Thats what I fouind puzzling ???
Nothing on Annie McKernan 1883 that I can tie up to your Annie I'm afraid.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help but remember Annie was maybe married before she left Ireland. However, I have not been able to find this. So she could of been Annie O'Halloran or Annie Halloran. She is a real mistery to what happened her.
Thanks again for all your help
Kieran
Ps I was able to get the other two death notices which gives me more names to look at
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Hello Kieran,
Pleased to hear you have found some further information to help your search.
Yes, I have checked McKernan and Halloran/O'Halloran/Holloran/Haloran etc and found nothing suitable.
This is the DIAMOND thread - information about others should be a new thread. - otherwise it is getting to complicated for others to try and follow. It takes a long time to go back over/re-read and check what has happened previously.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your help. How do I start a new thread as thats why I have been putting everything in here.
It must be the way Annie's surname is spelt maybe McKernon or McKiernan
She is a real mystery her and her other sister Mary
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
Click the button for New Topic at the top of the forum board you wish to use.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting.php
Regards
Sandra
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1880 Census Newark, Essex, New Jersey
All children born New Jersey
Andrew Mckernan 56 Born Ireland. Labourer
Bridget Mckernan 44
Ellen Mckernan 20 Button Factory
Elizabeth Mckernan 18 Button Factory
Peter Mckernan 16 Button Factory
Andrew Mckernan 14
Joseph Mckernan 12
Hi Sandra,
Any chance at find out death dates for any of these as I have found out that the British Library has a good collection of newspapers so if I have death dates I could look up the death ntocies for some clues.
Thanks
Kieran
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Catheine I find rather a mystery because you originally were looking for a birth 1895.
On the 1900 Census, Catherine was listed as born 1888 Ireland and was 13 years old ???
Catherine isn't with the family on your 1911 Ireland Census Record.
I can see a SSDI Record for a Catherine Duryea born 11 Aug 1897 Died July 1980 Brooklyn. Kings. New York.
and another SSDI for Catherine Duryea born 6th May 1900 Died January 1967
The first one was married to Frank F Duryea and their is a US Veterans Gravesite information for that one below
Name: Catherine Duryea
Service Info.: SGT US ARMY Birth Date: 11 Aug 1897
Death Date: 20 Jul 1980
Relation: Wife of Duryea, Frank F
Interment Date: 23 Jul 1980
Cemetery: Long Island National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 2040 Wellwood Avenue Farmingdale, NY 11735-1211
Buried At: Section 2d Site 2371
If Catherine was born 1895-8 then I would have to assume she went back to Ireland with the family in 1907 so would hope to find a passenger record of her returning married or unmarried. Have'nt found an unmarried one yet.
Hi Sandra,
Do you have any idea what newspaper woul have carried the obituary?
Thanks
Kieran
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Hi my name is Padraig McKeon.
I've been doing some searching and came across the chat room with you're post regarding George Gardiner. I have been trying to find out information regarding a George Gardiner with a daughter Bridget McKeon (nee Gardiner)1849-1928, she would have been my Great Grand Mother. They were from Edenmore, Kilclare, Carrick on Shannon. Co. Leitrim.
I am wondering if there may be a link?
Yours
Podge McKeon
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Hi Podge,
Thanks for your reply. There maybe a connection but I haven't made it yet.
If you have any information in what way you think it fits let me know but the McKernan side of my tree is very empty as I can't seem to find my grandfathers two sisters who went to America. Sorry I am not of more help.
Thanks
Kieran
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Hi Keiran
this is what I have:-
My grandfather Joe McKeon, married (12th Feb 1870) Bridged 'Mae' Gardiner born Kilmaltranny, Co. Sligo 1849. She died 12 Sept 1928, her father was George Gardiner.
My grandfather's sister Frances Maria (10-05-1884-23-04-1943) married Anthony McKeirnan. I think he was from the Ballinamore area of Co. Leitrim, they had 2 boys Mel and Oliver.
I haven't got mush further than that at the moment
Yours
Podge
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Sorry Kieran
It should have been my great grandfather Ambrose who was married to Bridgid.
Doing to many things at once.
Sorry
Podge
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Hi Sanda,
Thanks for all your help. I am hoping that you can help me find the graves or death notices for Mary Agnes Diamond nee Moss who died on the 9 October 1959 and her husband died 25 April 1956 in Sonoma.
Also find Marys parents who were Moss and mother Shipsey but I don't know where from?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your help. I have been completing more research on the McKernan surname and found out it can be spelt various ways. That's maybe why we can't find Annie or Mary.
The various ways are Kearnan, Keernan, Keirnan, Kernan, Kernane, Kiernan, Kirnan, McKearnan, McKernan, McKiernan, McKirnan and McKernon I am not sure if this will bring any of them to light.
The surname for O'Halloran can be spelt like Hallaran, Halleran, Halloran, Halloren, Haloran, Hollaran, Holleran, Holloran, Holoran and O'Halloran
Would it be possible to try these surnames to see if anything comes to light or maybe you have already tried this?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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This thread seems to have gotten extremely long and have wandered off from its original topic, so I spun off the most recent question into a separate thread which is here - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,522711.msg3773640.html#msg3773640
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Just trying to refresh my memory - we touched on this couple about reply 24/25 ish. I cannot do the children on here they may still be living people. I thought I send you a link to the possible son (will resend) ???
SSDI Record
Rose Moyes - Born: 13 Jul 1913
Died: 2 Mar 2005
Last Residence: 19037 Glen Riddle Lima, Delaware, Pennsylvania
SSN was issued in : Pennsylvania (1956-1958)
Herbert Moyes - Born: 4 Jan 1907
Died: Mar 1987
Last Residence: 19064 Springfield, Delaware, Pennsylvania, United States of America
SSN was issued in - Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
Thanks for all your help
Can you please try and find out where the two people above Herbert and Rose would be buried at?
Thanks
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Here is Rose McKernan Moyes - you can request a photograph if you wish.
Burial - Saints Peter and Paul Cemetery. Springfield. Delaware County Pennsylvania,
91 years of age; Born in Doon, Northern Ireland; resident of Springfield PA; Wife of the late Herbert T Moyes (3-2-1987); Daughter of the late Patrick & Rose McKernen; Sister of the late Paddy & James McKernan & Mary Lowry;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0cl7/
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Kieran
Saw a post you did on a Belfast Forum in April and you refer to a marriage between John P Hanna and Agnes Diamond.
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=29659.0
Does that mean that there is Bridget Agnes and Agnes are one and the same ?
Is this Agnes in New York ?
1930 Census Bronx, New York
John Hanna 31 Born England. Father England. Mother N.Ireland.Married at 27 years. Operator. Ind. ... Railway. Immigrated 1922
Agnes Hanna 27 Born New York of Irish Parents. Married at 25 years.
Plus 2 children. 1 Male John F Hanna 4 th Oct 1927 - 12 April 1993 SSDI Record
1 Female:- Mary E Hanna 19 Oct 1926 - 2004
Your post says "I am looking for the marriage of John P Hanna from Castlewellan Co Down to Agnes Diamond probably around 1901 or so"
Interestingly there is a New York Passenger List for John Hanna which ties in nicely with the immigration date on the above Census.
Name: John Hanna
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1922 Birth Year: abt 1900 Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Battersea .London
Age: 22 Gender: Male. Single at this date. Occupation:- Farm Labourer.
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia
Father listed as Hugh Hanna. Drumariad. Castlewellan. Co Down. He was going to Uncle John Hanna. 1836 Arthur Avenue. Bronx. New York.
So the marriage quite possibly is in New York about 1925/26 unless I can find another passenger list that puts John Hanna back in Ireland.
What do you reckon to a New York Marriage ?
Name: John F. Hanna
Last Residence: 10471 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Born: 4 Oct 1927
Died: 12 Apr 1993
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Remember you found the uncle John Hanna this would tie as he had an uncle born in 1866 to Patrick Hanna and Bridget Doran. He also had a brother called Charles Patrick born in 1864 and Elizabeth born in 1870.
Can you find out if any of these also came to John and when did he die?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Regarding Catherine/Kathryn that makes her born 1886 - which is another different date ???
Name: Kathryn Duryea
Born: 28 Oct 1886
Died: Jun 1968
Last Residence: 11510 Baldwin, Nassau, New York.
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help but I have got to the bototm of the mystery of Kathryn. She is buried in the Gates of Heaven cemetery. So this confirms this is her. Can you find her husband or her passport application?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Name: Kathryn Duryea
Born: 28 Oct 1886
Died: Jun 1968
Last Residence: 11510 Baldwin, Nassau, New York.
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help but I have got to the bototm of the mystery of Kathryn. She is buried in the Gates of Heaven cemetery. So this confirms this is her. Can you find her husband or her passport application?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Hello Kieran,
Sorry, never came across a passport application for Kathryn Duryea. Have you contacted the Gates of Heaven Cemetery to see who is buried with her - perhaps they will have the name of her husband on the records. ?
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Kieran
Saw a post you did on a Belfast Forum in April and you refer to a marriage between John P Hanna and Agnes Diamond.
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=29659.0
Does that mean that there is Bridget Agnes and Agnes are one and the same ?
Is this Agnes in New York ?
1930 Census Bronx, New York
John Hanna 31 Born England. Father England. Mother N.Ireland.Married at 27 years. Operator. Ind. ... Railway. Immigrated 1922
Agnes Hanna 27 Born New York of Irish Parents. Married at 25 years.
Plus 2 children. 1 Male John F Hanna 4 th Oct 1927 - 12 April 1993 SSDI Record
1 Female:- Mary E Hanna 19 Oct 1926 - 2004
Your post says "I am looking for the marriage of John P Hanna from Castlewellan Co Down to Agnes Diamond probably around 1901 or so"
Interestingly there is a New York Passenger List for John Hanna which ties in nicely with the immigration date on the above Census.
Name: John Hanna
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1922 Birth Year: abt 1900 Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Battersea .London
Age: 22 Gender: Male. Single at this date. Occupation:- Farm Labourer.
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia
Father listed as Hugh Hanna. Drumariad. Castlewellan. Co Down. He was going to Uncle John Hanna. 1836 Arthur Avenue. Bronx. New York.
So the marriage quite possibly is in New York about 1925/26 unless I can find another passenger list that puts John Hanna back in Ireland.
What do you reckon to a New York Marriage ?
Name: John F. Hanna
Last Residence: 10471 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Born: 4 Oct 1927
Died: 12 Apr 1993
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Remember you found the uncle John Hanna this would tie as he had an uncle born in 1866 to Patrick Hanna and Bridget Doran. He also had a brother called Charles Patrick born in 1864 and Elizabeth born in 1870.
Can you find out if any of these also came to John and when did he die?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Hi Kieran,
Did you contact the grandson or grandaughter of John Hanna mentioned in the Obituary I sent for his daughter Mary E Hanna/Barlow - they may be able to give you the details on grandfather John Hanna. The grandson was still living in Baldwin. New York. I can see from the UK BMD Index a birth recorded in June 1899 Wandsworth. London but do you have an exact date of birth for John Hanna ?
Bridget Agnes Diamond made a passport application and was issued one through the American Consul in London. Stated her father Patrick Diamond was still living in New York carrying on business as a Contractor. That he first immigrated about 1890 and has lived uninteruptedly in the US for 31 years - 1890 - 1921. Bridget was legally domiciled in Maghera. Derry. Ireland but her permanent residence was in New York City. She left the USA in 1908 and had lived in Maghera with her Mother. Bridget intended to return to the US within one month of the date may 14th 1921. It states she intends to return to the US in the company of her Mother to reside with her father at 346 East 65 th Street. New York City., Signed at the American Consulate in Belfast on 30th April 1921. Bridget was 20 years old. 5 ft 4 inches. Medium forehead. Straight Nose. Medium Mouth. Round Chin. Black Hair. Ruddy Complexion. and Round Face.
States that although the applicant had no identifying witness - they believed that she was the party referred to in the application through documents submitted by Rev Louis P Bossard of St Jerome's Church. New York showing that the applicant was born on 22 March 1901 and baptised 31 st March 1901. (Also contans a photograph of Bridget Agnes Diamond) It states that she retuirned to Ireland aged 7 years in 1908 because her Mother was ill. Her Mother would now be returning to her father in New York and Bridget required the passport to accompany her to join her father.
Bridget Diamond did travel to the US on New York Passenger List arriving 27th May 1921 on SS Celtic but seemed to be travelling alone.
Nothing jumps out for Charles Patrick Hanna or Elizabeth Hanna that I can see at the moment.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for all your help. Yes i have contacted the grandaughter of John Hanna. She doesn't know much about the Hanna conntection at all. You are seeing John Hanna who was the generation before him. The one I am tring to find information on is the one the generation before that who was born in 1866 to Patrick Hanna and Bridget Doran. There are two many John's but this might be the uncle John that John Hanna went out to. I would be very grateful if you can send me any documents you have been able to find and the photo you found. Maybe Charles and Elizabeth stayed in the Co Down.
Thansk for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Yes, we did that John Hanna as well starting about reply 38 - married to Margaret - last seen on the 1930 census aged 61 years. Did'nt find any death records or further information on him after that date. Sorry.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your help. Maybe John and Margaret ended up either going back to the Co Down or to England?
Will check and see if I can get the in Ireland
Thanks
Kieran
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Hello Kieran,
My hunch would be that they stayed in New York and possibly died in New York but apart from checking www.italiangen.org there are no other online death records to check. Having just a quick look at the children of John and Margaret I would suspect that these are 2 who stayed in New York. ???
According to a family tree entry Loretta Elizabeth Hanna born 15 January 1912 Bronx. New York married Joseph James Gleeson April 26th 1936
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0co6/
Loretta Died Nov 1979 in Suffolk County (Last Residence: 11971 Southold, Suffolk, New York ) and husband Joseph Joseph James Gleeson - Born 9 Jan 1909 in Bronx - Died Feb 1990 in Suffolk County. The only entry I could find for a Joseph J Gleeson was - Joseph J. Gleeson - Born: 9 Jan 1908 - Died: 14 Feb 1988 (which is slightly different to what the tree entry said ) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
This SSDI entry could be the son Edmund Hanna. Born 5 July 1919 and Died March 1959
SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
The site below is always worth checking - slow to load but will eventually settle down.
http://www.fultonhistory.com/
Regards
Sandra
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Loretta Elizabeth Hanna Burial: Saint Patricks Cemetery Southold Suffolk County New York,
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0co7/
and Joseph
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0co8/
May give you another line of enquiry to verify or contact the contributor if you wish.
Regards
Sandra
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Another son of John and Margaret
John P. Hanna Born 20 Feb 1910 - Died 14 November 1989
Last Residence: 10470 Bronx, Bronx, New York,
SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all yoyur help. I have thought of another way to find the family. I know Annie's son Patrick his wife died in May 1974 as it stated in the letter my auntie has.
Could either of these be Patricks wife?
Alice MULHOLLAND - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 8 Jun 1921 State Where Number was Issued: New York Death: May 1974
Jeanette MULHOLLAND - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 31 Oct 1923 State Where Number was Issued: Illinois Death: May 1974
Hopefully this might help find them
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. I have found out that Patrick Mulholland had a brother called James/ Jimmy and lived in New York. He never got married so hopefully this might information might help as they are sons of Annie Mulholland nee Diamond.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Could be same family 1910 Census Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
This was how it was spelt. All children born New York.
James McGaigan 36 Born Ireland Marriage 1 for 12 years. Immigrated 1897. Foreman City Department.
Catharine McGaigan 38 Born New York
James McGaigan Jr 10
John McGaigan 8
Bernad McGaigan 5
Margaret McGaigan 4
William McGaigan 1
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for al your help. Do you know who James McGaigan father was could it of been Michael McGuigan and Katherine Donoughy?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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James McGuigan Death
McGuigan James 45 y Jul 29 1919 5901 Bronx
http://www.rootschat.com/links/099i/
Sorry the passenger list of the arrival of James did not give any further details. Perhaps the parents will be named on the death certificate - the details are above.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you very much for all your help. In Post 243 you mention a photo of Agnes etc can you please send me copies of what you found.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
PS When I was on a Irish website I found an Andrew Kearnan 24 and a Bridget Kearnan 18 travelling in 1851 to America but it dosen't say what ship. I was wonderin could this be my great grandfathers brother.
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all yoyur help. I have thought of another way to find the family. I know Annie's son Patrick his wife died in May 1974 as it stated in the letter my auntie has.
Could either of these be Patricks wife?
Alice MULHOLLAND - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 8 Jun 1921 State Where Number was Issued: New York Death: May 1974
Jeanette MULHOLLAND - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 31 Oct 1923 State Where Number was Issued: Illinois Death: May 1974
Hopefully this might help find them
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. I have found out that Patrick Mulholland had a brother called James/ Jimmy and lived in New York. He never got married so hopefully this might information might help as they are sons of Annie Mulholland nee Diamond.
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
Hi Sandra,
I have found a wedding for an Annie Diamond who married a John Mulholland on the 16 Jan 1913. Can you find anything for Annie to see who her parents were? Or to see if they had children Patrick and James and lived in New York.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Sanda,
I hope all is well with you. I have just found out that a Patrick Mulholland was married to Gertrude? I think it could be
MULHOLLAND, GERTRUDE
18 Aug 1894 Mar 1964 69 (Rhode Island) Massachusetts 031-16-8960
I would be very grateful if you could find out anything on this for me?
Thanks for your help
Kieran
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Hi Sanda,
I hope all is well with you. I have just found out that a Patrick Mulholland was married to Gertrude? I think it could be
MULHOLLAND, GERTRUDE
18 Aug 1894 Mar 1964 69 (Rhode Island) Massachusetts 031-16-8960
I would be very grateful if you could find out anything on this for me?
Thanks for your help
Kieran
Hi Sandra,
I hope all is well are you able to find anything on this family?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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While it's generally good to keep everything in one place, this thread has gotten rather long and gone in so many different directions that it's hard to follow the plot. Perhaps you could start a separate thread about Gertrude Mulholland and give us whatever other information you have about her that might be pertinent.
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Hi Shellyesq,
Thanks for your reply. I have started a new thread on the Mulhollands.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran
Saw a post you did on a Belfast Forum in April and you refer to a marriage between John P Hanna and Agnes Diamond.
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=29659.0
Does that mean that there is Bridget Agnes and Agnes are one and the same ?
Is this Agnes in New York ?
1930 Census Bronx, New York
John Hanna 31 Born England. Father England. Mother N.Ireland.Married at 27 years. Operator. Ind. ... Railway. Immigrated 1922
Agnes Hanna 27 Born New York of Irish Parents. Married at 25 years.
Plus 2 children. 1 Male John F Hanna 4 th Oct 1927 - 12 April 1993 SSDI Record
1 Female:- Mary E Hanna 19 Oct 1926 - 2004
Your post says "I am looking for the marriage of John P Hanna from Castlewellan Co Down to Agnes Diamond probably around 1901 or so"
Interestingly there is a New York Passenger List for John Hanna which ties in nicely with the immigration date on the above Census.
Name: John Hanna
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1922 Birth Year: abt 1900 Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Battersea .London
Age: 22 Gender: Male. Single at this date. Occupation:- Farm Labourer.
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia
Father listed as Hugh Hanna. Drumariad. Castlewellan. Co Down. He was going to Uncle John Hanna. 1836 Arthur Avenue. Bronx. New York.
So the marriage quite possibly is in New York about 1925/26 unless I can find another passenger list that puts John Hanna back in Ireland.
What do you reckon to a New York Marriage ?
Name: John F. Hanna
Last Residence: 10471 Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Born: 4 Oct 1927
Died: 12 Apr 1993
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Remember you found the uncle John Hanna this would tie as he had an uncle born in 1866 to Patrick Hanna and Bridget Doran. He also had a brother called Charles Patrick born in 1864 and Elizabeth born in 1870.
Can you find out if any of these also came to John and when did he die?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
Hi Kieran,
Did you contact the grandson or grandaughter of John Hanna mentioned in the Obituary I sent for his daughter Mary E Hanna/Barlow - they may be able to give you the details on grandfather John Hanna. The grandson was still living in Baldwin. New York. I can see from the UK BMD Index a birth recorded in June 1899 Wandsworth. London but do you have an exact date of birth for John Hanna ?
Bridget Agnes Diamond made a passport application and was issued one through the American Consul in London. Stated her father Patrick Diamond was still living in New York carrying on business as a Contractor. That he first immigrated about 1890 and has lived uninteruptedly in the US for 31 years - 1890 - 1921. Bridget was legally domiciled in Maghera. Derry. Ireland but her permanent residence was in New York City. She left the USA in 1908 and had lived in Maghera with her Mother. Bridget intended to return to the US within one month of the date may 14th 1921. It states she intends to return to the US in the company of her Mother to reside with her father at 346 East 65 th Street. New York City., Signed at the American Consulate in Belfast on 30th April 1921. Bridget was 20 years old. 5 ft 4 inches. Medium forehead. Straight Nose. Medium Mouth. Round Chin. Black Hair. Ruddy Complexion. and Round Face.
States that although the applicant had no identifying witness - they believed that she was the party referred to in the application through documents submitted by Rev Louis P Bossard of St Jerome's Church. New York showing that the applicant was born on 22 March 1901 and baptised 31 st March 1901. (Also contans a photograph of Bridget Agnes Diamond) It states that she retuirned to Ireland aged 7 years in 1908 because her Mother was ill. Her Mother would now be returning to her father in New York and Bridget required the passport to accompany her to join her father.
Bridget Diamond did travel to the US on New York Passenger List arriving 27th May 1921 on SS Celtic but seemed to be travelling alone.
Nothing jumps out for Charles Patrick Hanna or Elizabeth Hanna that I can see at the moment.
Regards
Sandra
Hi Sandra,
I hope all is well with you.
Is it possible to get a copy of the photo you have mentiioned above of Agnes Bridget Diamond?
Thanks for your help
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
Unfortunately, I did'nt find a death date for John Hanna Snr or any records for Charles and Elizabeth. Photograph sent ages ago - would need a pm with your e-mail address to resend.
Sandra
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Should be with you now Kieran.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks I got the passport application.
Thanks
Kieran
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That's great - the site was playing up, so only half the page with the photograph showed but a least you can see her now.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your reply but I have only receieved a text document but no photograph
Theres no rush. Can you see if you can find a passport application for her father Patrick Diamond or her sister Katherine Diamond
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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You should definitely have these documents they are registered in my sent items.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. Yes the photos came through and it is great to have this tracked down. Its a pity I can't find the passport applications for my grandfathers two sisters Mary McKernan or Annie McKernan as my auntie would be over the moon to see any photos of them.
Thanks again for all your help it is very much appreciated
Kieran
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Hi Kieran,
I am "over the moon" that the photographs managed to travel through cyberspace and reach you at last ;D
Sandra
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Sorry - no passport applications for Patrick or Catherine Diamond. Neither could I see any for the McKernan sisters.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help. I was wondering if you could look at Mary McKernan in the June 1900 Kings New York as it says immigration in 1896. I was wondering if you can find anything for this?
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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The Mary McKernan you refer to was listed with the Gardiner family and described as a cousin on the 1900 census - Gardiners were under Gardince on a separate thread. Nothing to identify Mary in later census.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,553282.0.html
William J Gardince. aged 37 years. Born November 1862. Ireland. Immigrated 1880/1888 (not clear) . Married 1894. Foreman at shoe factory.
Anna C 28 years. Born August 1872 New Y. Had 3 children and 3 survive. Married 1894.
George H 5 years. Born April 1895 NY
William H 3 years. Born August 1896. NY
Anna 2 years. Born August 1897. NY
Mary Mckernan 23 years. Born May 1877 Ireland. Cousin. Immigrated 1896. Single. Servant.
Mary also previously mentioned here :- http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,460356.0.html
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all your help.
I have got another piece of the jigsaw for Mary McKernan she is 19 which is the right year of her birth. She is listed as Mary Kiernan
Given Name: Mary
Surname: Kiernan
Last Place of Residence: Ireland
Event Date: 14 Oct 1896
Age: 19
Nationality: Ireland
Departure Port: Glasgow
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Female
Marital Status:
Citizenship Status:
Ship Name: State of Nebraska
Citing this Record:
"New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX7V-FPY : 6 December 2014), Mary Kiernan, 14 Oct 1896; citing departure port Glasgow, arrival port New York, ship name State of Nebraska, NARA microfilm publication T715 and M237 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
Is there anything more that can be done with this?
Thanks for all your help as always
Kieran
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Sadly those earlier passenger lists sometimes do not show enough information to positively identify someone - this doesn't state where she was born or any parents names which would have helped.
Doesn't seem to be travelling with a companion.
Sandra
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The Mary McKernan you refer to was listed with the Gardiner family and described as a cousin on the 1900 census - Gardiners were under Gardince on a separate thread. Nothing to identify Mary in later census.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,553282.0.html
William J Gardince. aged 37 years. Born November 1862. Ireland. Immigrated 1880/1888 (not clear) . Married 1894. Foreman at shoe factory.
Anna C 28 years. Born August 1872 New Y. Had 3 children and 3 survive. Married 1894.
George H 5 years. Born April 1895 NY
William H 3 years. Born August 1896. NY
Anna 2 years. Born August 1897. NY
Mary Mckernan 23 years. Born May 1877 Ireland. Cousin. Immigrated 1896. Single. Servant.
Mary also previously mentioned here :- http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,460356.0.html
Sandra
Hi Sandra,
I have been able to find two births of this couple
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W4M-3WJ Mary Gardiner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD51-TZB George Hamilton Gardiner
PS but I can add any attachments
Can they be found in the 1910 census or later
Kieran
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1910 census Brooklyn Ward 19, Kings, New York.
William J Gardiner 50 Born Ireland. Manufacturer Shoes.
Anna C Gardiner 37
George H Gardiner 14
William A Gardiner 13
Anna Gardiner 12
Mary E Gardiner 7
Anthony Mckernan 70 Born Ireland. Father-in-law. Clerk. Shirt Factory.
Mary A Mckernan 70
Annie Killian 20 Born Austria. Servant.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RV6-C3Z?i=25&cc=1727033
1920 census - reply 18 - this link..............
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=553282.18
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJRK-V4L
1930 census - reply 21 this link..........
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=553282.18
1940 census - reply 22 - this link........
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=553282.18
Sandra
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Brooklyn Daily Eagle - 25 April 1918
Georg e H. Gardiner, 3924 Avenue K infantry, is the son of Mrs. Anna C. Gardiner. He was an asisstant buyer of shoes in on e of the large downtown department stores. He wen to Camp
Upton last September an a entered the Officers'Training School in January .
He is a graduate of Commercial High School.
WW2 Draft - George Hamilton Gardiner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DH5S-76C?i=1871&cc=1861144
Sandra
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Not sure if we included William J Gardiner in any of the previous threads -
New York Herald - 31 October 1913
GARDINER- On Wednesday, October 29 William J gardiner, beloved husband of Anna C. Gardiner, funeral from his late residence, 83 Rodney St., Brooklyn at half-past nine A. M.. Friday. Thence, to
the Church of the Transfiguration, where a solemn requiem mass will be offered for
the repose of his soul Interment St. John's Cemetery.
Sandra
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Brooklyn Daily Eagle - 21 July 1914
WILLIAM J. GARDINER, died October 19, 1913. and by will dated April 25, 1908, leaves his
entire estate to his widow, Anna C Gardiner, during her life, or until she remarrles, when
it passes to his children. He Appoints his widow executrix.
Sandra