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Title: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Friday 25 June 10 04:21 BST (UK)
Can anyone help me with any family information re William Sinclair of Stroma Island, Caithness, Scotland. I know he was there in the year 1812-1813.  One of his sons, Alexander Sinclair, was a mariner and he married Margaret?. His indenture papers show him to be son of William Sinclair, Stroma island.  I am very keen to find the right William Sinclair for my genealogy work.  Please can you help at all.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: ev on Friday 25 June 10 14:26 BST (UK)
hi Clematis

welcome to rootschat  :)

do you know when alexander was born ?

ev
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: akc on Friday 25 June 10 20:27 BST (UK)
 william sinclair born stroma 1790 - 1841 married jane sinclair 1793 - 1876. they had williamina 1814 - 1898, william 1817 -, christian 1824 -, mary 1824 -, john 1827 -, alexander 1829 -, andrew 1831 -, margaret 1833 -, james jolly - 1836 - 1901, walter 1839 - ,
williams parents were william sinclair and elizabeth/elspet kennedy.

william died in the pentland firth on his way to answer a court summons in kirkwall in 1841

this info came from several family trees so dont know how accurate it is! but there is quite a lot of info about this couple
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Friday 25 June 10 21:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for your information..  This William Sinclair may be the brother of my Alexander Sinclair as Alexander was born 1790 to 1798.  He was indentured in 1913 for 3 years, subsequently becoming a Mariner.  Alexander Sinclair married Margaret   ???? at possibly North Shields, England as she was from here and had 2 children born there sometime after this.
Can you help any more, knowing this. 
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Friday 25 June 10 21:16 BST (UK)
I would love to know how many William Sinclair's were on the island about 1812-1813. If there was just one, it would make my life a whole lot easier.  The indenture papers of his son (Alexander Sinclair), state that 'Alexander Sinclair, son of William Sinclair, of Stroma Island) - great source of information but I really need to find the right William Siinclair.  Any help greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: akc on Friday 25 June 10 21:56 BST (UK)
on the same tree:- william sinclair born 6 may 1753 stroma, his 1st wife was marion smith 1757 - 1788 children were john 1779, george 1780, elizabeth 1783 and esther 1785. 2nd wife was elspet kennedy and children with her were william 1790 - 1841, alexander born 6 nov 1792 baptised 9 nov 1792 stroma, margaret 1795, james 1797 - 1877, peter 1800 - 1848, andrew 1803 - 1882 and john 1805.

akc
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Saturday 26 June 10 02:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for that.  Now I need to know if Alexander Sinclair born 1892 is the ones who was indentured for 3 years (1913 to 1916). He married Margaret......... Do you know anything about this?  I so appreciate your help.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Saturday 26 June 10 02:20 BST (UK)
Sorry he was born 1792, indentured (1813-1816), married Margaret before 1829.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: akc on Saturday 26 June 10 08:06 BST (UK)
you might find this site of interest www.caithness.org

akc
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: akc on Saturday 03 July 10 20:50 BST (UK)
on the 1851 census in Kirkwall & St Ola Orkney:
Alexander Sinclair 55 stepson born canisbay caithness
margaret sinclair 63 head of house born canisbay farmer of 25 acres
janet sinclair stepdaughter born canisbay
james sinclair son, spouse margaret/ mother margaret born kirkwall & st ola
margaret 33 daughter-in-law born kirkwall & st ola
jemima 12 parents james & margaret
walter 7         "         "            "
margaret 4     "         "            "
janet 2          "         "            "
mary  3 months         "            "
esther 3 months        "            "
also 4 farm servants ( 1 from caithness)

do any of these names sound familiar?



the childrens parents were james and margaret
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Saturday 03 July 10 22:25 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information - this family may be no relation, I think but will keep the page for future reference thanks
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: Wred on Sunday 15 August 10 15:51 BST (UK)
Hi Clematis

The Highland council provide a newspaper clipping service through e-mail from the John O'Groat Journal based in Wick.

The web site is http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/newspapers/index.jsp . A quick search for 1840 to 1842 gave two results for Sinclair Stroma.

Deaths at the Pentland Skerries of Andrew Williams and John Sinclair and Peter Green: Stroma. Killed in shipwreck. Reported  November 26, 1841

Marriage  of William Sinclair Jnr. to Miss Steven (daughter of John Steven: farmer) both Cairn of Stroma.
Reported February 26, 1841

It might be worth your while requesting the full newspaper extract.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: Wred on Sunday 15 August 10 16:12 BST (UK)
Sorry was getting Clemitis and akc mixed up Alexander would be too early for this resource. But AKC might like this from O'G Journal-

Death Mrs Wm Sinclair Age 90 widow of Wm. Sinclair School master, Stroma. December 8, 1848
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:04 BST (UK)
Thanks, yes not sure who this one is. However I believe that William and family may have left stroma for tynemouth, England, possibly due to 'Battle of Trafalgar'. Grasping at straws here. A census record shows the family at Tynemouth 1841. My Alexander Sinclair is not there - possibly away at sea but there is wife Margaret (nee Kennedy), and 4 children who are correct.  I still would like to know who is the wife of William Sinclair, of Stroma, for my research.  I think Alexander was born between 1790 and 1799 as indentured 1813 with Esq. James Lyons from Tynemouth. 
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:06 BST (UK)
William Sinclair (born 1853) married Marion Smith and Elspet Kennedy. He had a son Alexander born 1792. Who did he marry please?

I think this Alexander Sinclair married someone† in Scotland, can anyone confirm this please.

If so, I can eliminate this family as it would not be the right one.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: Wred on Monday 16 August 10 15:29 BST (UK)
The Alexander Sinclair that AKC gave you born 1792 is the only one I can find bap Canisbay 9 nov 1792 and born 6 Nov 1792 on Stroma. Poor thing 3 days old and taken over the sea in a small boat to be baptized. Mother Elspet Kennedy.


Have you got Alexander and wife on the 1851 census? for her place of birth.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: clematis11 on Monday 16 August 10 20:12 BST (UK)
Ok thanks, I did not get anywhere for Alexander and Margaret Sinclair and family in 1851 census for Northumberland, England. No record found, a bit strange I know. I would love to think that Alexander Sinclair born 1792 but on ancestry.com, there is a record of thim marrying some different. Its submitted information.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: Castlenew on Sunday 05 February 12 12:28 GMT (UK)
I have just joined Rootschat and was surprised to see Clematis 11 asking about William and Alexander Sinclair.I think they could be my Alexander and William Sinclair.I have not been able to find Alexander's wife's maiden name  -Her first name was Margaret and they married in North Shields.William their son married Mary Scott Robertson and they are my grt grt grandparents.On some of my paper work William has his name down as William Cooper/Couper Sinclair.Could this be his mother's maiden name?I would be interested in making contact to exchange or confirm a few names and dates.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: Castlenew on Monday 06 February 12 04:39 GMT (UK)
Another thought  regarding Alexander Sinclair born 1792,do you know when he died? I was told he died at sea but l don't know when.
Title: Re: William Sinclair - Stroma Island 1812
Post by: Darren_sinclair on Saturday 25 August 18 20:38 BST (UK)
Hi, am not sure if itís the same William Sinclair but my relation was a William sinclair, he was an uncle of my late grandfather George sinclair. I donít have much information but all I know was that he was a stevedore an one point. Am sure my grandfather told me he is buried on the island.