RootsChat.Com
Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: heatherwalsh on Wednesday 30 June 10 04:37 BST (UK)
-
i have a family of cullens.....francis born 1809 and his son william cullen 1835 - 1911 and his wife anne jane frazer born 1832-1906.
william and anne's children;
mary jane cullen 1857-1908 married robert kirkland
ellen cullen abt 1859 married joe fleck
margaret cullen abt 1861 married agustus dale
david cullen 1866-1929 married margaret jefferies [ or jeffers ]
william cullen abt 1867.......
now i know i have the right family, problem is.....i am looking for joseph cullen and his wife margaret laurison...they were married in abt 1901 in the rich hill area of armagh......they are connected closely to the above family, but i cant seem to track them down.........now all of the above poeple were born in the armagh area, ballynahinch, ahorey , mullabrack and rich hill areas......i know by the 1920's joseph and margaret were living in the whifflet, coatbridge area of scotland as their daughter nellie gave bith to my mother there.......they were still living there around world war 2 as well........if this sounds familiar to anyone, i would love any help that can be offered in my searching....thank you...reguards heather
-
Welcome to Rootschat. To start with I've moved your post to the ARMAGH board.
You have lots of details to start with so it should be fairly straight-forward to get more information.
Joseph Cullen married Margaret Laurison- their marriage certificate should list Joseph's residence at time of marriage as well as father's name and occupation. Civil registration index (online) shows Maggie Laurison MARRIAGE July/Sept.1901 Banbridge registration district volume 1 page 219 with a Joseph Cullen on the same page.
The 1901 census was taken 31 Mar.1901 so they might both be listed there-
There's a Maggie Laurison age 20 in this household-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Mullahead/Laurelvale__Village_/1020862/
See Introduction to Irish records-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html
-
thank you so much for reply.....i was very excited as now i have more to go on with........kind reguards heather ;D
-
Hi,
On 16 Jul 1901 Joseph Cullen married Margaret Laurison in Mullavilly Church of Ireland, Armagh.
Regards
-
thank you so much for your reply, now onto the task of finding this couples parents,, especiallly joseph's,so i can put the family together in the tree !!!
kind reguards from heather :D
-
John Laurinson married Sarah Jane Gibson at Mullavilly Church of Ireland, in the parish of Kilmore,Armagh, on 3rd July 1875.
OTTO
-
this is so wonderful...thank you for your reply...all of this info is helping me so much.....its so very exciting discovering your family, i didnt know that there was so many kind people out there willing to lend a hand......i am very grateful...if anyone can help with finding joseph's parents for me .......i will be estatic !!!!!!!!! thank you... thankyou......kind reguards heather
-
The actual marriage certificate should list his father's name and occupation (mothers are not listed). See here for ordering N.I. certificates:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,383526.0.html
Joseph Cullen married Margaret Laurison- their marriage certificate should list Joseph's residence at time of marriage as well as father's name and occupation. Civil registration index (online) shows Maggie Laurison MARRIAGE July/Sept.1901 Banbridge registration district volume 1 page 219 with a Joseph Cullen on the same page.
-
this is so wonderful...thank you for your reply...all of this info is helping me so much.....its so very exciting discovering your family, i didnt know that there was so many kind people out there willing to lend a hand......i am very grateful...if anyone can help with finding joseph's parents for me .......i will be estatic !!!!!!!!! thank you... thankyou......kind reguards heather
The only way to be certain of fathers names is to order copy of marriage certificate as aghadowey says at http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
I find that ordering a photocopy of the actual certificate is best, so that you can decipher the details if necessary.
From the fathers name and address given, ( and possibly age at marriage) hopefully you can get the birth details.
I have the details of two Joseph Cullen births that may fit.
1st July 1869 to Owen and Margaret Quin at Blackwatertown Armagh.
22nd Oct 1870 to Edward Cullen and Elizabeth Rafferty, Loughgall Armagh.
Good luck
OTTO
-
Heather,
Going back to your original family, William Cullen and Mary Ann Frazer, I noticed that they were married in Killyman Church of Ireland, Dungannon, Co. Tyrone on 16 Nov 1849. I wondered if there may have been children born before 1857.
Regards
-
hello everyone, i will get onto organising the certificate and thank :D :Dyou once again for the advice.... also you are right, i'm sure there will be more children to find from william and his wife, i'm thinking this is where joseph's father will be lurking !!!!!!!.....just need to save a few pennys to get my certificate.......i'm enjoying every minute of my family discovering !!!!!!!!
kind reguards heather
-
Did you ever piece this together - I have Joseph Cullen on my family tree with parents Owen Cullen and Margaret Quin...
-
yes, i have joseph's mother and his potential father.
-
Ah ok
I read through your posts on here and I think your family is difeerent from mine - Yours done come from the Cullen/Quin marriage
P
-
ahh, but at the moment we are trying to connect a quinn family into our tree. As we have been tracking down decendants and memories passed down, we have been told that our cullens had cousins who were quinns, this is still a work in progress, i will let you know what i find............it could take a while !!!!!! kind regards from Heather
-
Hi Heather,
"i know by the 1920's joseph and margaret were living in the whifflet, coatbridge area of scotland as their daughter nellie gave bith to my mother there.......they were still living there around world war 2"
Do you have Joseph in 1911 & if so, how old was he?
If he died in Scotland his DC should give the names of both his parents with mother's maiden name provided the informant knew those details.
Annie
-
Possible death?
CULLEN JOSEPH 80
1960
652/2 108
Coatbridge or Old Monkland
Annie
-
There's no death for a Margaret Laurison on SP but may have been a case of the informant not knowing her maiden name.
Annie
-
Hello, Yes i have my Joseph, his parent and all his details, who he married etc........... he was my great grandfather. I need no further help with Joseph, but thanks for all previous help given .
-
??? ???
" problem is.....i am looking for joseph cullen and his wife margaret laurison...they were married in abt 1901 in the rich hill area of armagh"
Sorry,
I must have missed something in that request?
Annie
-
No you have not missed anything, this post has been picked up once again and i have since found that info.......I am now concentrating on finding out more about Joseph;s father, he was ROBERT FLACK, who married joseph;s mother ELEANOR (Ellen) CULLEN in Armagh.
-
I have ROBERT FLACK and his wife Ellen in scotland, surname changed to FLECK. i have all their other children. I now wish to research JOESPH FLACK, his father ROBERT FLACK going back in Ireland etc.