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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: eadygirl on Monday 05 July 10 12:14 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I'm currently chasing George Taylor Dann born in Sawtry,Huntingdonshire in 1866. I know about his parents and siblings in Sawtry and am trying to establish his whereabouts from 1891 until his death.
1881: he was a 14 year old steward on the "Prince of Calais" in Dover
1891: he was a 24 year old mariner boarding in Liverpool
1901: where?
1911: where?
post 1911: where?
Lloyd's Captains' Registers in the London Guildhall Library says:
DANN, George Taylor b. Sawtry, Hants. 1866 020604 Hull 1893
vol.46 1893, 1895 Extra Folio 3; vol.61 1896-98, 1900, 1902-03; vol.76 1904-05, 1907-11
I think that this means that he got his Captain's ticket in Hull in 1893?
On the 1911 census, the entry for Walter McLean Dann - George’s younger brother living at Hartlepool, Durham - shows his sister in law Sarah Dann, a visitor, born 1877 in Myrnsong, Victoria, Australia. That got my antennae up! Myrnsong may be a typo as there is a Myrniong about 70kms out of Melbourne, near Bacchus Marsh, one of the gold rush towns. It could also be a total typo for Maribyrnong, an old district of Melbourne which even I have trouble spelling. Then I found the following on a google search….
“The Sydney Morning Herald, Tuesday 16th November 1937 (George would have been 70)
Vice Regal column.
Captain G T Dann, retired secretary of the Imperial Merchant Service Guild in London, reached Sydney in the Esperence Bay yesterday. Although he went to other Australian ports when he was serving at sea, both in sail and steam, this was his first visit to Sydney. His wife, who is accompanying him, is a native of Melbourne.”
After reading this, my antennae twitched like mad! ???
I can't find a marriage or death cert in the UK, nor anything for any children and have also looked in the obvious records for Victoria,Australia. It doesn't really sound like they had settled in Australia, so where were they hiding?
Can anyone help?
Many thanks!!!!
cheers
Liz
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in 1938 his proposed address was at 28 Wanstead Park Road Ilford Essex with his wife Sarah.
taken from uk incoming passengers lists.
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http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/
if you search for phrase
Dann, George Taylor
You will find a notice regarding his death in 1953.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/
- also there is a medal card for WWI here.
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Thanks very very much Woody32 and Jorose for the info of GT Dann in the 20th century. My goodness, what a ripe old aged he lived to - a reminder of how good the sea air is!
Still hoping that others might be able to fill in those missing years of 1891 until his death in 1953.
All best,
Liz
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hi Eadygirl..
He was probably at sea when the 1901 1911 census were taken.
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But where???
Is there anyway of finding out?
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If you were able to go to the Guildhall (or get someone to go to your further), or somewhere else which holds the records , I believe what you have for the Lloyd's Captain's Registers is only the index, and either the Captain's Registers or Lloyd's List or a combination would have more details.
For example, this from:
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/archive/displayGuide.aspx?sid=55&mode=html&sorStr=s_id%20ASC%200&serStr=&pgeInt=6&catStr=
Lloyd's Captain's Registers contain details of service as captain or mate of holders of British master's certificates between the years 1869 and 1948. The Maritime Archives & Library, Merseyside Maritime Museum, holds a photocopy of the 1869 volume and microfilms of the 1874-1887 volumes. Each entry includes the name, place and year of birth of the subject, together with place and year of examination, and number of his certificate. His service record also includes the name and official number of each vessel on which he served as either master or mate, together with dates of service.
With the names of the vessels you could then work out where he was sailing at the time.
Did the 1911 census say how many years Sarah had been married?
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Hi Jorose,
Thanks for your latest post. Sarah was 34 in the 1911 census and as she was just a visitor to the Dann household in Hartlepool, no record of number of years married. No children there of course.
My dear cousin Chris in Cardiff has bravely put up his hand to do the Guildhall search next time he's in London. But if any others reading this are going there soon....I'd really appreciate a lookup.
Thanks!!
cheers, L
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Liz,
Have you considered contacting the Guildhall Library to see if they would do this for you? Would save your cousin the effort and might even cost less than his extra costs of parking, etc. while he is in London. Biggest benefit might be a quicker turnaround.
Nick
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Hi, George was my Great Great Uncle. He married Sarah in Australia in 1901. He was a Master of both sail and steam. I have his Captains chest and my sister has the locket watch that he bought Sarah on one of his trips to America. She also has a piece of pottery that he bought at an auction in Japan. For a family that has never really moved far it was great to find a globetrotter.
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A little late. Lloyd's Captains Register is now held at London Metropolitan Archives. They do have a research service. Scroll down the page.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Pages/enquiry-service.aspx