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Title: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: barbiej on Tuesday 06 July 10 05:01 BST (UK)
Hi I am from New Zealand and am researching my grandmothers family in Royton. Her name , Mary Fitton, born 6 October 1878. Her parents were Edmund Fitton and Mary Ann (Butterworth). She married Harvey Porter of Chippenham, Wiltshire, 28 July 1900. they had a son (Allen), my father, born 5 June 1908. Harvey came to NZ in 1911 and Mary and Allen  came in 1913.
Thank you for taking the time to read this message and look forward to any information. Barbiej
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: tedscout on Tuesday 06 July 10 05:13 BST (UK)
Hi Barbie,

On the 1881 census Mary is with her parents and siblings and living in 121 Oldham road.

Edmund Fitton 31 Caster
Mary A. Fitton 30
John Fitton 7
Sarah Fitton 4
Mary Fitton 2
Betty Fitton   1 month

There are 2 other people with Mary on their family tree on Ancestry - do you know who they are?
 
 
 
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: barbiej on Tuesday 06 July 10 06:02 BST (UK)
Hi Tedscout,
 Thanks for the reply.
 Yes I have the names of the other two
They are Bertha born 1885
Janey born 1888.

 Many thanks

 Barbiej
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: tedscout on Tuesday 06 July 10 06:05 BST (UK)
Sorry I should have been more clear.

There are 2 trees on Ancestry with the same family as yours. Do you know who these people are?

cpredota and 2rosemary are their user names.
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 06 July 10 08:24 BST (UK)
Hiya Barbie.....there are 3537 records of FITTON on this site
the first in 1542.....sorry , but I`m not searching through all those ...lol
have a look yourself and look for abode - Royton
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
How strange...loads of FITTON records in Royton...but not Mary 1876....maybe she was babtised later...

Mary Fitton babtised 16th March 1777 in St Paul, Royton, Lancashire
father   Edmund Fitton
mother Clemence
occ Weaver
abode Bridge Street.....so be very careful as it would appear there are TWO Edmund Fitton in Royton at the time of Marys birth....added...no there isn`t ...there`s THREE
Betty Fitton  babtised 11th February 1776 at St Paul , Royton
father Edmund Fitton
mother Esther
abode   Beursil-Head , Royton...oh dear...be very careful in your research on this site...it may get confusing...allan
make that FOUR...Salley babtised 1787 father Edmund mother Betty same church and town..sorry..this is getting a nightmare...lol
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: barbiej on Tuesday 06 July 10 11:41 BST (UK)
Hi Tedscout,
 Oopps Sorry.
 Yes I have been in contact with both of these.
 Thanks again
 Barbiej
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: barbiej on Tuesday 06 July 10 11:51 BST (UK)
Hi Garstonite,
 Many thanks.
 I will look up that site for Royton.
 Yes Fitton is like Smith around there.
  I have my grandmothers confirmation certificate. which gives that she was baptised at the Parish Church Royton in 1879.
 Confirmed. April 17th 1895 at same church. By the Lord Bishop of Manchester.
  Her first communion was 28th April 1895.
 on Edmund's gravestone it says, " In loving memory of Edmund Fitton of Queen street" Died Jan 9th 1918 in his 68th year. I have a photo of the headstone, but not of where it is. Probably in Royton grave yard.

 Barbiej
 
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: craggagh on Friday 06 August 10 23:05 BST (UK)
Hello -

Sophia Robishaw, the sister of my great-great-grandmother, was born in Royton on 16th October, 1823 and baptised at St Paul's, Royton on 29th February, 1824. In 1845, she married Edward Butterworth and her daughter, Eliza Butterworth, born 1853, married Edmund Gartside in 1874.

I have not long been looking into this branch of the family, but if you think that I may be able to help you further, let me know.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: Gaille on Saturday 07 August 10 00:06 BST (UK)
Hi Garstonite,
 Many thanks.
 I will look up that site for Royton.
 Yes Fitton is like Smith around there.
  I have my grandmothers confirmation certificate. which gives that she was baptised at the Parish Church Royton in 1879.
 Confirmed. April 17th 1895 at same church. By the Lord Bishop of Manchester.
  Her first communion was 28th April 1895.
 on Edmund's gravestone it says, " In loving memory of Edmund Fitton of Queen street" Died Jan 9th 1918 in his 68th year. I have a photo of the headstone, but not of where it is. Probably in Royton grave yard.

 Barbiej
 

Barbie,

I live in Royton, and I have just spent quite a while photographing graves in local cemeteries for various people, if you would like me to have a look at the photo & see if I can identify the cemetery just drop me a PM & I will send you my email to send it too.

Gaille
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: barbiej on Sunday 08 August 10 23:04 BST (UK)
Hi Craggagh,
 Thanks for your reply.
 The  Butterworth in my tree was Mary Ann Butterworth, my great grandmother. (b.1851)who married Edmund Fitton in 1871.
 Mary Ann's parents were Richard Butterworth and Betty Cort.
This is all I have on that line. I hope that this may be a help to you.
barbiej
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: craggagh on Sunday 08 August 10 23:43 BST (UK)
Hello -

Thanks very much for that - I'll look into it and see if there is any connection. If I can get anywhere, I'll let you know.

Thanks again.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: SirJohn on Saturday 24 January 15 01:16 GMT (UK)
Hi ---
    I am from Christchurch, New Zealand and also new on here so hope I am getting everything right !

In the reply by Craggagh the name Edward Butterworth from Royton, Lancashire is mentioned. 
I have done quite a lot of work on this guy.  He did a "runner" from Royton in 1854, ended up in Christchurch in 1863 and died there in 1882.

He is definitely the same fellow and I have LOTS of other info on him if Craggagh or anyone is interested.

I know this is a long time after the original post so hope it is of some value.

Regards to all    :)
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: craggagh on Saturday 24 January 15 14:32 GMT (UK)
Hello Bloodnok -

I would be most interested in any information you may have concerning Edward Butterworth. All I know is that he was a coal miner and is listed on the 1851 census as living in Edge Lane and aged 27.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: SirJohn on Sunday 25 January 15 02:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Craggagh ---

Thanks for response.  Please give me a few days to delve into my records and I will compose a "timeline" of information I have on our Edward.

Oh - I gave the wrong date of death - it was 1886 not 1882.   In fact 26th February 1886 to be precise.

A couple of quick snippets for you in the meantime.   His daughter Eliza Gartside from Royton was trying to contact him in 1911 - obviously she was unaware he had died many years earlier.   Possibly she was wanting to tell him his wife Sophie had died which would have been about that time.

He ended up as a railway "gatekeeper" in Christchurch

Kind Regards   John
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: craggagh on Sunday 25 January 15 19:03 GMT (UK)
Hello Bloodnok -

According to the information I have, Sophia died on 30 December. 1905 and was buried on 4th January, 1906 at St Paul's, Royton.  The only child of Edward and Sophia that I am aware of was their daughter Eliza, who married Edmund Gartside in 1874 - I believe they had seven children.

Anything you can tell me about Edward would be of great interest, in particular why he went to New Zealand in the first place.

Thanks for your help.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: Craclyn on Thursday 28 March 19 11:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbiej,

Did you ever manage to figure out who are the parents of your great grandfather Edmund Fitton?
I have stumbled across this family while analysing DNA matches to try to knock down a brick wall behind my great grandfather who came from Oldham. My mysterious man goes by the name of Robert Webb when he first appears on a census in Northumberland in his 40s claiming to be from Oldham, but I am leaning towards the theory that one of his parents was a Fitton.

Lynda
Title: Re: Butterworth, Fitton, Porter in Royton
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Sunday 31 March 19 16:06 BST (UK)
In the early years of the 20th C there were Fittons  between Burnley and Todmorden  that may have had Royton links. There was a "Walter" , 2 Jan 1896, d circa 1967, certainly, and he may have had parents in Burnley.