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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: martin roe on Thursday 08 July 10 13:20 BST (UK)
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here is a link to an ongoing project of mine it is a map of modern day dublin
but plotted over the top are the 1911 census locations of the RC families
Also included are my family member locations for the Roe`s and Hawkshaws in dublin from the early 1800s to the early 1900`s
http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=152584
i have a list of changed street names if anyone would like a copy please message me
i will be including an election roll for 1939/40 and the census for 1901 in the near future also when i have the time , i also hope to add all other religion`s too
please if you are a member of the roe family please say hello it would be helpful to swop information
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I picked up my grandfather in the 1901/1911 census. His name was William Roe. His father was Joseph Roe and in his second marriage by 1901. Is it possible to trace where Joseph was from and what his father's name was?
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Hi
what information do you have for Joseph Roe from the 1901 census it should show on that where his origins were.
to Find his fathers name you could apply for joseph`s birth certificate this will show where he was born who his father was if he was born after 1863 ish
i have a william on my mao for 1911 showing him as a cabinate maker with 4 children is this your william
martin
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Joseph was from Dublin and as family history goes, was in his second marriage when my grandfather was born. My grandfather was only 11 in 1911 and was a fianna boy scout along with his brother in Boland's Mill. I understand that in the war of independence he was on the run in Cork and stayed with relatives down there. Possibly Roes. Can i order his Birth Cert online as i'm living in Scotland now, but from Dublin.
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yes you can order it on line
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joseph born around 1866 and they married 1894 Mary his wife was originally a Burke
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try this site
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=Joseph+roe+&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&submit=Search
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Martin,
Just been on that website and can't find any info for Joseph. Mary Burke was Joseph's second wife and they were both widowed with children. Would be great to find out who his first wife was?
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Hello
Your Joseph Roe/Mary Burke are part of my family tree. Joseph was married before and I have copies of certificates for his first marriage etc. Would love to swap info.
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Hi, im looking for information on my great uncle william A Roe who ive been told was an IRA volunteer and took part in the rising and/or war of independence/civil war ...he lost his leg apparently and my mam remembers him with his wooden leg.. if anyone knows about him or is also related to him then let me know .. In the 1911 census he was 11 years old living with his granny in cuffe st mansion house Dublin
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Welcome to RootsChat
Marriage of William's parents Arthur Charles Roe and Catherine Graham 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10436/5800112.pdf
Birth of William Albert 1899
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02030/1778446.pdf
Birth of Ethel Marion 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01966/1758342.pdf
1901 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Mansion_House/Cuffe_Street/1342801/
1911 Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/Cuffe_Street/99889/
Catherine and Arthur in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/Cuffe_Street/73661/
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Looks like Arthur was having a bit of fun with the census. Eccentric comedian ? Speaks Cockney.
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He has also called himself Ashton in 1901, wonder if that was his stage name.
Also Catherine is using her maiden name, again possible her stage name.
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Arthur Charles Roe was the son baptised in St. John the Evangelist CoE, Kilburn, on 8 June 1873 for parents Daniel Samuel Roe, a purveyor of horse flesh, and Harriet Clara Toms, the family can be seen in various censuses from 1881 onwards in the Deptford area of London, there's a family tree on the 'Ancestry' website (my usual caveat about potential inaccuracy applies), Arthur had a number of siblings including a brother Stanley Bernard Roe, who placed the following notice in a 1914 issue of the 'Era' (which was largely a theatrical journal), confirming Arthur's alternative surname: WANTED, Arthur C. Ashton - Roe's address, by STANLEY B. ROE. Communicate immediately, C/o W. Paxton, 6 Arklow-Road, New Cross, S.E.
There are only a few newspaper references to Arthur Ashton as an actor/singer, including one in 1900 (Wicklow) about him suing a drama company that had engaged both him and his wife.
Arthur's parent's grave:
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Daniel-S-Roe/3335620
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A Catherine Teresa Graham was baptised on 29 October 1872 in Harrington Street RC parish, Dublin, her parents were recorded as Robert Joseph Graham and Elizabeth O'Toole of 47 Cuffe Street:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1865-1890_ba_0170
It's the same parish that Arthur Roe and Catherine Graham of 47 Cuffe Street had their daughter Ethel baptised in 1901:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1890-1901_ba_0290
There are several other related Dublin RC parish records which you can find here:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/
BTW, Robert Graham and Elizabeth 'Toole' were married in St. Nicholas' RC parish, Dublin, in 1857, full details here:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.nicholas_mf_1822-1880_ma_0109
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Wow i wasn't expecting a reply so quickly and I didn't think it would be so detailed so thank you for that ! .. i did have the census and marriage records already and my mam remembers stories about them being stage performers.. ethel Marion roe was my great granny .. it was her brother William that I was initially asking about but thanks to you ive got so much more information to put in my tree.. go raibh mile maith agat .. i still would love to know how William lost his leg .. i would love him to have fought in either the rising/war of independence/civil war .. i did find a William roe who fought in them all but he later joined the guards and I know you can't join the guards with a wooden leg 😄 so it can't be him .. maybe he went to the 1st world war and lost it there but he would have only been 14 or 15 when the ww1 began so that seems a bit young .. ah ill keep on searching for clues .. thanks again
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The pension applications online so far only give one Roe, William Charles Roe which is likely the man you found before.
I think all the 1916 ones are online and you would expect if he lost a leg he would definitely have applied for a pension.
There is still the possibility his application isn't online yet assuming he did apply.
Do you know when he died, there might be an obit in the newspapers.
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A Catherine Teresa Graham was baptised on 29 October 1872 in Harrington Street RC parish, Dublin, her parents were recorded as Robert Joseph Graham and Elizabeth O'Toole of 47 Cuffe Street:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1865-1890_ba_0170
Are you sure about this date of baptism ? Because the 1901 and 1911 census have her birth year being 1878 and she can't have been baptised before she was born 😄
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The pension applications online so far only give one Roe, William Charles Roe which is likely the man you found before.
I think all the 1916 ones are online and you would expect if he lost a leg he would definitely have applied for a pension.
There is still the possibility his application isn't online yet assuming he did apply.
Do you know when he died, there might be an obit in the newspapers.
I dont know when he died but I know for a fact he moved from Ireland to 9 Albert Ave, Gorton, Manchester M18 7JX and married his wife Dorris from this address, then in 1958 he moved from Manchester to Yorkshire... this is all the information I could get today but I wil hopefully get some more tomorrow.. i have sent messages to all the oldest relatives in the hope that they can remember some dates etc.
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A Catherine Teresa Graham was baptised on 29 October 1872 in Harrington Street RC parish, Dublin, her parents were recorded as Robert Joseph Graham and Elizabeth O'Toole of 47 Cuffe Street:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1865-1890_ba_0170
Are you sure about this date of baptism ? Because the 1901 and 1911 census have her birth year being 1878 and she can't have been baptised before she was born 😄
You should be thinking the other way around.
You can't fib on your baptisim but you can on a census.
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A Catherine Teresa Graham was baptised on 29 October 1872 in Harrington Street RC parish, Dublin, her parents were recorded as Robert Joseph Graham and Elizabeth O'Toole of 47 Cuffe Street:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=harrington-street_mf_1865-1890_ba_0170
Are you sure about this date of baptism ? Because the 1901 and 1911 census have her birth year being 1878 and she can't have been baptised before she was born 😄
You should be thinking the other way around.
You can't fib on your baptisim but you can on a census.
Haha OK good point !
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Are you sure about this date of baptism ? Because the 1901 and 1911 census have her birth year being 1878 and she can't have been baptised before she was born 😄
It definitely says Anno Domini 18 72 at the top of the page (162), if you click on 'Previous' or 'Next' at the top of the screen to look at the surrounding records in the register, you will see that 1872 isn't a one-off slip of the pen. Most people back then did not observe birthdays and maintain an accurate awareness of age the way we do today, there was more often a tendency to 'lose' years when completing official documents.
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... BTW, Robert Graham and Elizabeth 'Toole' were married in St. Nicholas' RC parish, Dublin, in 1857, full details here:
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.nicholas_mf_1822-1880_ma_0109
The 1857 marriage record for Robert Graham and Elizabeth Toole identified the bride's parents as William Toole and Catherine Grace, Eliza Toole was baptised in St. Michan's RC parish, Dublin, on 23 August 1838 (ie. 59 year old Elizabeth Graham in the 1901 census):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01plx/
'Eliza of William Toole and Catherine Grace' (left page near bottom):
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.michans_mf_1850-1869_ba_0732
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The 1939 register for England and Wales shows a William Roe living with several others at 170 Great Western Street in Manchester, described as a single man, his occupation was recorded as 'Music Hall Artist', but the clincher is his stated date of birth - 26 August 1899, which is an exact match for your William Albert Roe (birth registration posted at reply #10 above).
Interestingly, the next person shown in the register at that same address was a William Oglesby, a married man and a motor mechanic by way of occupation, with a date of birth stated as 27 November 1898, which is an exact match for the son born in Dublin to Patrick and Teresa Oglesby ...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02063/1788483.pdf
... who was this person in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Lower_Exchange_Street/1341467/
... and the same person who married Ethel Roe of 47 Cuffe Street in 1921:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09226/5338205.pdf
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There is one William Roe who served in WW1 whom I haven't been able to eliminate so far, so just to note him for now. I can't see a service or pension record for him, but there are three separate documents for him under the regimental number of 341980:-
(1) a medal card for William A Roe, showing him in the Labour Corps, enlisted 31 July 1916, discharged 14 September 1917, cause of discharge 'Wound', address = 56 Morse Street, Swindon.
(2) a pension ledger index card for William Roe who was discharged on 4 September 1917, in the Labour Corps, birth year indicated as 1899, record type = disability, and his residence place given as 'Post Office Salford Manchester'.
(3) a Silver War Badge record for William Roe, enlisted 31 July 1916, discharged 14 September 1917, discharge regiment = 5th Royal Irish Rifles, discharge unit = Labour Corps, cause of discharge 'Wound', age at discharge = 19, served overseas.
Edited to add: There was an article in a Bath newspaper of May 1920 that has a resonance in this case, under the title of TWO DESTITUTE EX-SOLDIERS, it is about the soldiers wrongly receiving 3s 6d from the Bath Branch of the Discharged Soldiers' Federation, for which the Bench took a lenient view, bound them over to be of good behaviour and arranged to send them from Bath back home to London. One of the soldiers was described as 'William Roe (21) ... a music hall artiste ... 13 Tressillian Road, Lewisham, S.E ...'.
It goes on to say 'Roe was discharged from the Army as unfit for further service as the result of a gunshot wound. His pension had been discontinued, but its renewal was under consideration. Apparently his Army record was good ...'.
Edited again to add: Just found another two pension ledger index cards for William Roe, definitely the same person as mentioned at (1) - (3) above (regimental no. 341980... and other details match), one card shows residence as Bristol, the other shows residence as Dublin.
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The 1939 register for England and Wales shows a William Roe living with several others at 170 Great Western Street in Manchester, described as a single man, his occupation was recorded as 'Music Hall Artist', but the clincher is his stated date of birth - 26 August 1899, which is an exact match for your William Albert Roe (birth registration posted at reply #10 above).
Interestingly, the next person shown in the register at that same address was a William Oglesby, a married man and a motor mechanic by way of occupation, with a date of birth stated as 27 November 1898, which is an exact match for the son born in Dublin to Patrick and Teresa Oglesby ...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02063/1788483.pdf
... who was this person in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Lower_Exchange_Street/1341467/
... and the same person who married Ethel Roe of 47 Cuffe Street in 1921:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09226/5338205.pdf
No way !!! This is an amazing find ! .. William oglesby was my great grandfather who learnt how to be a mechanic in the irish free state army. He was in the mechanical transport corps and a number of his children including my granny were born in portobello barracks dublin.
After the army he worked as a mechanic.
Everything adds up here So there is no doubt in my mind that these men are my family.
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Confirmed, Pte William Roe reg. no. 341980 was indeed your William, I've seen the pages in the pensions ledger that correspond to the index cards mentioned above at reply #24 and the breakthrough is on the page where his residence was shown as Dublin (the page 's actions / correspondence run from August 1926 onwards), for the specific address recorded was 47 Cuffe Street.
Another page covers what looks like a claim he made in the run up to May 1920 (which would fit nicely with that Bath newspaper article) his address was recorded as c/o the YMCA Dug Out in Colston Street Bristol (you will get info and photos about this location if you google it), although at the bottom of the page there is a comment of 12 October 1920 indicating that William had moved to London and was living at 16 York Road, Covent Gardens. His disability was described as 'GSW Rt' (Gun Shot Wound Right) followed by a word that I think is 'Tarsus', the disability was attributable to his army service.
A third page relates to earlier in 1920, his address was recorded as Cross Lane Post Office, Salford, Manchester, but then the page has been scored across with a comment of 27 September 1920 saying 'Transferred to South Wales.
So it's sounding as if William was leading a fairly peripatetic existence at that point - not helped by a break in his pension payments - a lifestyle that would be consistent with a jobbing music hall artist. I'm not seeing newspaper references for him in that context, but that might simply be because he had a stage name, which I don't know.
In the circumstances I can't see him having been active in the War of Independence, but it is intriguing that he enlisted in the Army just 2 months after the Easter Rising.
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There is one William Roe who served in WW1 whom I haven't been able to eliminate so far, so just to note him for now. I can't see a service or pension record for him, but there are three separate documents for him under the regimental number of 341980:-
(1) a medal card for William A Roe, showing him in the Labour Corps, enlisted 31 July 1916, discharged 14 September 1917, cause of discharge 'Wound', address = 56 Morse Street, Swindon.
(2) a pension ledger index card for William Roe who was discharged on 4 September 1917, in the Labour Corps, birth year indicated as 1899, record type = disability, and his residence place given as 'Post Office Salford Manchester'.
(3) a Silver War Badge record for William Roe, enlisted 31 July 1916, discharged 14 September 1917, discharge regiment = 5th Royal Irish Rifles, discharge unit = Labour Corps, cause of discharge 'Wound', age at discharge = 19, served overseas.
Edited to add: There was an article in a Bath newspaper of May 1920 that has a resonance in this case, under the title of TWO DESTITUTE EX-SOLDIERS, it is about the soldiers wrongly receiving 3s 6d from the Bath Branch of the Discharged Soldiers' Federation, for which the Bench took a lenient view, bound them over to be of good behaviour and arranged to send them from Bath back home to London. One of the soldiers was described as 'William Roe (21) ... a music hall artiste ... 13 Tressillian Road, Lewisham, S.E ...'.
It goes on to say 'Roe was discharged from the Army as unfit for further service as the result of a gunshot wound. His pension had been discontinued, but its renewal was under consideration. Apparently his Army record was good ...'.
Edited again to add: Just found another two pension ledger index cards for William Roe, definitely the same person as mentioned at (1) - (3) above (regimental no. 341980... and other details match), one card shows residence as Bristol, the other shows residence as Dublin.
Wow so you have cracked the case then! William was not in the irish army but he was in the british army.. i can't wait to tell my family this ! Its amazing that stories about ancestors change as they pass down through the generations.. its great to finally learn the facts though and what exactly happened.. thanks for doing this .. this is amazing
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Confirmed, Pte William Roe reg. no. 341980 was indeed your William, I've seen the pages in the pensions ledger that correspond to the index cards mentioned above at reply #24 and the breakthrough is on the page where his residence was shown as Dublin (the page 's actions / correspondence run from August 1926 onwards), for the specific address recorded was 47 Cuffe Street.
Another page covers what looks like a claim he made in the run up to May 1920 (which would fit nicely with that Bath newspaper article) his address was recorded as c/o the YMCA Dug Out in Colston Street Bristol (you will get info and photos about this location if you google it), although at the bottom of the page there is a comment of 12 October 1920 indicating that William had moved to London and was living at 16 York Road, Covent Gardens. His disability was described as 'GSW Rt' (Gun Shot Wound Right) followed by a word that I think is 'Tarsus', the disability was attributable to his army service.
A third page relates to earlier in 1920, his address was recorded as Cross Lane Post Office, Salford, Manchester, but then the page has been scored across with a comment of 27 September 1920 saying 'Transferred to South Wales.
So it's sounding as if William was leading a fairly peripatetic existence at that point - not helped by a break in his pension payments - a lifestyle that would be consistent with a jobbing music hall artist. I'm not seeing newspaper references for him in that context, but that might simply be because he had a stage name, which I don't know.
In the circumstances I can't see him having been active in the War of Independence, but it is intriguing that he enlisted in the Army just 2 months after the Easter Rising.
Christ i was expecting to get tiny amounts of information and facts but I never thought all of this could be found .. intriguing is an understatement! He would have watched his city blown to pieces in a relatively small battle to then go fight in the mother of all wars ? We can take from this that he was a brave man.. i read that young lads went to fight in ww1 not having a clue what they were signing up for .. it was a chance for them to "see the world" but William had witnessed what war was like and still signed up ... i wonder where he was sent to ? What battles he fought in .. i have lots more to find out havent I 😌
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Unfortunately, I can't see a service record, it may be one of the many that were destroyed, or it may just be that fresh eyes are needed to find it. One minor correction to a previous post, when I mentioned enlistment in the Royal Irish Rifles, it actually said just 'R.I.R.', so could well be the 5th Battalion of the Royal Irish Regiment that he was in, I'm not knowledgeable in this area.
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Unfortunately, I can't see a service record, it may be one of the many that were destroyed, or it may just be that fresh eyes are needed to find it. One minor correction to a previous post, when I mentioned enlistment in the Royal Irish Rifles, it actually said just 'R.I.R.', so could well be the 5th Battalion of the Royal Irish Regiment that he was in, I'm not knowledgeable in this area.
😄 you've done enough ! You are an absolute legend.. you've brought a memory that my mam had of her great uncle to life .. she was less than 10 years old when she seen him last .. from what you've taught me and what my family have told me I believe he was good man .. the house in gorton Manchester he owned he gave to his neice because she would have ended up homeless otherwise.. she lived in that house and raised 7 kids there, she only passed away in 2001 ..
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Apparently he did join the Irish Army in 1922 and was stationed at Beresford Barrack's ,Curragh,Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Beresford_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_60.pdf
While Arthur was at Keane Barrack's, Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Keane_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_2.pdf
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See paragraph ''Establisment of Defence Forces ''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Army_(Ireland)
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Apparently he did join the Irish Army in 1922 and was stationed at Beresford Barrack's ,Curragh,Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Beresford_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_60.pdf
While Arthur was at Keane Barrack's, Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Keane_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_2.pdf
Amazing find.
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Apparently he did join the Irish Army in 1922 and was stationed at Beresford Barrack's ,Curragh,Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Beresford_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_60.pdf
While Arthur was at Keane Barrack's, Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Keane_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_2.pdf
Amazing find.
Yes indeed, dathai. Well done! ;D
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Apparently he did join the Irish Army in 1922 and was stationed at Beresford Barrack's ,Curragh,Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Beresford_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_60.pdf
While Arthur was at Keane Barrack's, Kildare
http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Keane_Barracks_Curragh_Command_Page_2.pdf
Unbelievable find dathai !
William and Aurthur were brothers .. i didn't know his brother Aurthur was in the army too .. their father Arthur C Roe was married in Newbridge kildare only minutes from keane barracks.. do you think Aurthur senior was a soldier before he became an actor ? Also if William went to ww1 and was discharged in 1917 with gun shot wound to his leg, he must have joined the irish army with the damaged leg which probably slowly worsened over time and could have been later amputated because he definitely had a wooden leg and I doubt the irish army allowed 1 legged soldiers into their army 😄
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The Irish Times of 31st July 2010 contains an obituary for Rev. Robin Roe born in Skeire Co.Laois who played rugby for Ireland in the 1950s.
Felixquaxer
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by 1926 Arthur was a labourer when he married Annie Teresa O'Kelly dtr of Nicholas O'Kelly and Norah Foley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09130/5302140.pdf
Annie
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Clanbrassil_Street__Lower__East_Side/78020/
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The witness to Arthurs marriage was Robert McGowan who appears to be his cousin through his mother
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/Cuffe_Street/99887/
marriage 1900 Patrick McGowan to Elizabeth Graham
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10346/5766432.pdf
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by 1926 Arthur was a labourer when he married Annie Teresa O'Kelly dtr of Nicholas O'Kelly and Norah Foley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09130/5302140.pdf
Annie
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Clanbrassil_Street__Lower__East_Side/78020/
I was referring to "Aurthur C Roe born in 1880" which was the father of Aurthur A Roe who married Annie O'kelly..
I'm trying to figure out why Aurthur senior lived in and married Catherine t Graham in Newbridge.. im guessing it has something to do with the army barracks near Newbridge but it says he and she were actors on their marriage record.. so was Aurthur seniors father Daniel s Roe in the british army based at the barracks near by ? If he was responsible for moving his family from England to Ireland then that is an important part to my tree ... if Daniel even lived in Ireland then obviously he went back to England at some point in his life because he is buried in London
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Ok so after speaking to William roes nephew I've found out that he was shot twice. Once in ww1 and again during the irish civil war, where he was guarding a bakery on o'connell St. And an IRA man shot him in the knee.. surely this would have been recorded somewhere? It must have happened between 24th October 1922 (when he joined) and 24th May 1923 (when the civil war ended).... Wikipedias irish civil war timelines mentions on 1st December 1922 four free state soldiers were wounded in a gun fight in dublin and another incident on 24th feb 1923 where a free state soldier was shot in the thigh... i wonder if anyone could find a more detailed account of these 2 events ?
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Sorry I know this is an old thread but I've just stumbled across it after a Google search.
I'm in the process of applying for Irish citizenship by decent. I've had to get my grandmother's birth certificate which is now on the way. Anyway to cut a long story short she was a Roe and I found out today her father was Joseph Roe. I'm not sure if its the same Joseph that was mentioned earlier in this thread. He was married to Elizabeth Roe (formerly Graham). My grandmother Christina Roe was born in Dublin in 1928 on Lower Gardiner Street. I think she had 2 sisters one named Bridie. I'd love to know a bit more about her side of the family. It's probably a long shot that it's the same Joseph Roe but you never know :)