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Education in Victorian Times (http://www.iol.ie/~ndnsp/north/e.htm)
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Father James Nugent's Party of Home Children Ireland to Canada 1881 (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/orphans/father-nugent-orphans1870.htm) This link has been posted on the Canada Resources board (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,148045.msg735533.html#msg735533) but it has occurred to me that some members may be looking for the children in Ireland not knowing that they had emigrated to Canada on board the SS Austrian from Liverpool via Londonderry. The ship left Liverpool on the 19th. August 1870 and arrived in Quebec on 28th August 1870. It is probably that many of the children came from counties in the north west of Ireland .. ie North Antrim, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh and Tyrone.
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer, William D. Montalbano, wrote an article which is worth reading called .. "Ireland's 'Orphans' Search for Their Past." (http://www.cmp.ucr.edu/education/programs/digitalstudio/studio_projects/webworks/Ex/flax/flax.new/article.html) He mentions a useful address for orphans searching for relatives. The Barnardos Adoption Advice Center is at Christchurch Square, Dublin 8, Republic of Ireland. Barnardos runs a confidential phone line for adoptees from 10 a.m.-2 p.m. Thursdays and Fridays, and 2 p.m.-5 p.m. Tuesdays: 011 353 1 454-6388. He points out that Ireland is eight hours ahead of Los Angeles.
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The National Archives of Ireland website has a page which contains a large amount of useful information about The Commissioners for National Education (National Education Board) (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/Nat_Schools/natschs.html) which was established in 1831 for the purpose of administering a fund of £30,000 placed at the disposal of the Lord Lieutenant for the education of the poor in Ireland. The Board was brought to an end in 1922, when its functions were taken over by the Minister for Education.
There's a page on the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland site titled "Education in Ireland." (http://www.proni.gov.uk/Education/history.htm) This gives comprehensive information about The Ministry of Education for Northern Ireland, which in common with the other Ministries of the new Government of Northern Ireland, was established in June 1921. It was set up under the provisions of the Government of Ireland Act, 1920.
Edmund Ignatius Rice, a wealthy merchant in Waterford, retired from business life and founded the Christian Brothers of Ireland (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03710b.htm) in 1802. It was illegal for members of the Catholic faith to educate their children as Catholics during the early part of the nineteenth century and it was also illegal for teachers to educate children as Catholics due to the Laws for the Suppression of Popery (http://www.law.umn.edu/irishlaw/intro.html) otherwise known as the Penal Law.
Children from a reasonably wealthy family and those who were members of the gentry and upper classes may have been sent to a public (private) school, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school) in Britain, Ireland, the Isle of Man or possibly overseas. Some of these schools have published a register of pupils and members of staff from the time the school was founded. These registers, which are useful to genealogists and historians, usually contain a history of the school and list the names of the founders and governors of the school. If you think that your ancestors may have attended a public school have a look to see if there is a register for that school.
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Co. Armagh
Belfast and Ulster Towns Directory for 1910 - Armagh. Shiel's Alms House, Workhouse Hill -- Stephen Mates, superintendent; J. M. Palmer, M.D., visiting surgeon
Co. Cavan
Lewis's Topographical Directory of Ireland, 1837 - Cavan town refers to "an alms- house for a poor widow, supported by private subscription."
Co. Cork
The 1824 Cork City Directory of Pigot & Co. refers to the charity school and alms house, in Christ Church Lane, which were endowed in 1742 by Mrs. Shearman, for educating fifeen poor boys of the established church. The alms house was also endowed by Mrs. Newman, for the support of the poor of both sexes.
Skiddy’s Almshouse (http://co-opsocialhousingdev.org/Pages/skiddies_almshouse.html) was built in 1718 in the churchyard of St. Mary’s, Shandon. Skiddy’s charity was founded by Stephen Skiddy, a Cork native and a London wine merchant.
The almshouses in Youghal (http://www.kinsale.ie/kinshist.htm) were built thanks to an endowment by Sir Richard Boyle to house six old soldiers, who were to receive a pension of £5 per annum. Later the service was extended to include widows.
Co. Down
Click here (http://www.paddi.net/images/annahilt.htm) to see pictures of the Annahilt almshouses. Six almshouses were erected by Colonel Forde at Seaforde at the request of the Late Mrs. Forde A.D. 1828
Co. Dublin
The RCB Library holds documents relating to Mrs Mercer's Almshouse.
Co. Kilkenny
Sir Richard Shee (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/history/shee.html) was the founder of the Shee's Alms House in Rose Inn Street, Kilkenny
Co. Limerick
The Villiers Alms Houses and Schools at King's Island in Limerick were built thanks to an endowment willed by Mrs. Hannah Villiers in 1815.
Co. Louth
Castlebellingham village includes an attractive group of widow’s Almshouses and cottages which were constructed by the Bellingham family.
Co. Tyrone
PRONI in Belfast holds Legal papers etc. 1845 - 1969 for the Almshouse at Aughnacloy.
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The Indoor Workhouse Registers a great amount of valuable genealogical information on
a large number of Irish ancestors for the period around the time of the famine. You'll find these in local county libraries in the Irish Republic and in Public Records Office in Northern Ireland (PRONI). www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/guide/PLUwork.html
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The Archives Division of the British Library of Political and Economic Science
holds a collection of Irish Poor Law Records 1807-1848: Coll Misc 0511
http://library-2.lse.ac.uk/archives/handlists/IrishPoorLaw/IrishPoorLaw.html
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The Public Record Office in Belfast does not hold patient records for general hospitals although it holds records of mental hospitals, some of which begin in the 1830s. http://tinyurl.com/6o686m They also hold vaccination registers ... some of these date back to the 1860s.
The records for a number of Dublin Hospitals are open to inspection. www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/womens_history/women.html
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Irish National teachers 1873-1874
There's a list of about 4,000 teachers in Irish National schools (1873-74) on my website. I've copied 13 of the 61 areas in the country, mostly Dublin and surrounding areas. Once you find your relation, you can follow their career from year to year in the Salary books in the National Archive. (the books are large and rather dirty, but most interesting!). I hope this will be useful to someone.
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/ns-teachers.htm (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/ns-teachers.htm) New website
regards Eadaoin
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It is often difficult to find information re 19th and early 20th c school teachers in Ireland. And once found, it takes a lot of patience to piece together a picture of your teacher forbear as the records are often scattered, worn and torn. Nevertheless, it is well worth the effort as it is possible to paint quite a picture of what life was like for these old educators.
******TheNational Archives Ireland does offer a list of their holdings at
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/Nat_Schools/natschs.html
******The PRO of Northern Ireland...
http://www.proni.gov.uk/local_history_series_-_05_-_national_education_records.pdf
******A book that describes the process of how to research as well as some actual records and transcriptions of names and schools....
Researching a National School Teacher in Ireland
"This work offers a detailed account of the extant records as well as an in-depth description of how to trace the career of a teacher AND some students in nineteenth century Ireland. Although the focus is on the Republic, transcripts cover Northern Ireland as well. Paid pupil monitors, who were actually young students, are also examined. These records are a bonus as this 'occupation' would not have been noted in any of the coventional records as the monitors would have been listed only as 'scholars' or 'pupils' (ie:in a census); thus, an important work even if your forbear was not known to have been a teacher. Research examples as well as transcriptions of monitor's records are included."
See here:
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/researching-a-national-school-teacher-in-ireland/2417984
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Many thanks for this informative post, Ncell!
Will give it a try and I have two ancestors who were National Teachers in a small villiage in Co Clare.
Kind regards,
Tees
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I've computerized some of the SalaryBooks for 1873-74 - mostly in the Dublin/Leinster area.
eadaoin
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I've acquired the
National University of Ireland Calendar ... 1933
it contains a list of all graduates of the University up to this date (and some from the old Royal University), and dates of their degrees
I'll do a lookup, if anyone's interested.
eadaoin
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Irish National teachers 1873-1874
There's a list of about 4,000 teachers in Irish National schools (1873-74) on my website. I've copied 13 of the 61 areas in the country, mostly Dublin and surrounding areas. Once you find your relation, you can follow their career from year to year in the Salary books in the National Archive. (the books are large and rather dirty, but most interesting!). I hope this will be useful to someone.
http://web.archive.org/web/20091027145950/http://geocities.com/etainbreslin/nsteachers.html
August 2014
Ireland Genealogy Projects have agreed to host this list .. new link
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/ns-teachers.htm
apologies that this took so long to sort out!
regards eadaoin