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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: Ken Austin on Saturday 10 July 10 12:31 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am looking for any information regarding my Great Grand Father James Austin and My Great Grandmother Annie Hamill. They were married in Seagoe Catholic Church, Lurgan Co.Armagh on 26 September 1850. They had 11 children all Baptised at Seagoe from 1851 to 1870. My Grandfather Joseph Austin and a lot of the family moved to Govan, Glasgow sometime between 1870 and 1896 when my father was born. I have found some information in the Griffiths 1864 Evaluations regarding them, but cannot find any birth records for them. My great Grandfather James Austin was born between 1825 and 1830, but I don’t know where. Any possible assistance or leads would be very much appreciated as I have reached a dead end now.
I have built a website for my family tree, which can be found at www.austinfamilytree.com
Thank you all in advance.
Best wishes ~ Ken Austin
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Welcome to Rootschat. I've removed your other post with the same details since duplicate posts on different boards cause needless confusion for those trying to help you.
Civil registration of births started in 1864- for earlier dates you need to search for church records which you've already done. Perhaps you could post the names and birthdates of any children born 1864-1870 and we'll see if we can find them in the civil index for you. I.G.I. (www.familysearch.org) has many Irish births 1864-c1882 so you could also look there- site down for maintenance at the moment.
LDS Pilot site also has Irish births here-
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584963
Two of the children are listed here-
James born 21 Oct.1864 Montiaghs, Armagh (page 691 in civil register)
Thomas born 24 May 1867 Lugan, Armagh (page 832 in civil register)
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Hi
Sorry for the duplication, but I wasn't sure where best to put my information.
The children of James Austin and Anne Hamill are:
1. Austin Joseph, b. 16 Apr 1870, d. 13 Feb 1952 (My Grandfather)
2. Austin Francis, b. 1870
3. Austin Patrick, b. 25 Dec 1851, Seagoe, Ireland
4. Austin James, b. 11 Apr 1856, Seagoe, Ireland
5. Austin Catherine, b. 25 Nov 1853, Seagoe Ireland
6. Austin Patrick, b. 28 Jun 1857, Seagoe, Ireland
7. Austin Mary Jane, b. 26 Feb 1860, Seagoe, Ireland
8. Austin Arthur, John, b. 27 Apr 1862, d. 16 May 1912
9. Austin James, b. 21 Oct 1864, Seagoe, Ireland
10. Austin Thomas, b. 24 May 1867, Seagoe, Ireland
11. Austin Elizabeth, b. 24 Nov 1872, Seagoe Ireland
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer.
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I've put the list of children into chronological order to make it easier to see where birth records are needed-
Patrick b. 25 Dec 1851
Catherine b. 25 Nov 1853
James b. 11 Apr 1856
Patrick b. 28 Jun 1857
Mary Jane b. 26 Feb 1860
Arthur John b. 27 Apr 1862
James b. 21 Oct 1864 (birth registration found)
Thomas b. 24 May 1867 (birth registration found)
Joseph b. 16 Apr 1870
Francis b. 1870
Elizabeth b. 24 Nov 1872
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Hi Ken,
I have not looked up any of the records for your family as yet (but I will see if I can come up with anything for you this evening( fingers crossed)), but there was a family named Austin living in the townland of Drumnagoon for quite a few generations, so much so that a small new development in the area has been named Austin Place.
If you can, you should try Derrymacash Chapel for their records.
Regards,
Aljepeka
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Jut to update the list earlier-
Patrick b. 25 Dec 1851
Catherine b. 25 Nov 1853
James b. 11 Apr 1856
Patrick b. 28 Jun 1857
Mary Jane b. 26 Feb 1860
Arthur John b. 27 Apr 1862
James b. 21 Oct 1864 (birth registration found)
Thomas b. 24 May 1867 (birth registration found)
Joseph b. 16 Apr 1870 20 Apr.1870 on birth certificate (LDS Pilot site Irish births)
Francis b. 1870
Elizabeth b. 24 Nov 1872
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Hi Aljepeka
Thank you so much for your kindness.
I had a tip that Annie Hamill may have come from Tyrone or at least her mother Mary Ann Boon, so I'm checking that out at the moment.
You can see my family tree on www.austinfamilytree.com
Thanks again for your kindness.
Best Wishes ~ Ken Austin
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Hi Ken ,
I have sent you a PM.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Aljepeka
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Jut to update the list earlier-
Patrick b. 25 Dec 1851
Catherine b. 25 Nov 1853
James b. 11 Apr 1856
Patrick b. 28 Jun 1857
Mary Jane b. 26 Feb 1860
Arthur John b. 27 Apr 1862
James b. 21 Oct 1864 (birth registration found)
Thomas b. 24 May 1867 (birth registration found)
Joseph b. 16 Apr 1870 20 Apr.1870 on birth certificate (LDS Pilot site Irish births)
Francis b. 1870
Elizabeth b. 24 Nov 1872
Many thanks for that. I knew this from his birth certificate, so don't really know why I quoted the 16th!
Thank you once again for your efforts on my behalf.
Best ~ Ken
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I thought I'd update this post with some other information that has just come to light, in case anyone can help with it.
The name of Patrick Austin born around 1805 has been put forward as a possible match for my GtGtGrandfather. He had sons Patrick born 1828, Arthur 1833, Henry 1834 and James 1835 all born in Derrinver, Montiaghs, Armagh. Any help with any of these would be very much appreciated.
Ken
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The name of Patrick Austin born around 1805 has been put forward as a possible match for my GtGtGrandfather. He had sons Patrick born 1828, Arthur 1833, Henry 1834 and James 1835 all born in Derrinver, Montiaghs, Armagh. Any help with any of these would be very much appreciated.
Not sure how likely this is as in your first post you said "my Great Grand Father James Austin and My Great Grandmother Annie Hamill. They were married in Seagoe Catholic Church, Lurgan Co.Armagh on 26 September 1850." and "My great Grandfather James Austin was born between 1825 and 1830, but I don’t know where."
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I'm pretty sure that the James Austin year of 1835 is wrong as this is the only one of the four without additional information, which I haven't included here as Patrick 1805 is the main interest. Patrick Jnr, Arthur, James and Henry all feature in the Tithe applotment lists and Griffiths along with Anne Hamill.