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Title: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: llama llady on Sunday 11 July 10 11:00 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find the birth of Benjamin Piers Gilbert in St Michael's, London in 1787.  Can anyone help me with where St Michael's is or would have been, and how to start looking for a baptism there. I'm finding London rather daunting. Thanks Louise.
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: louisa maud on Sunday 11 July 10 14:45 BST (UK)
looking at my Victorian London by Cliff Webb I see there are 12 St Michael Churches listed in the London area which includes South London,   none start as early as 1787, is it a church you are after or a district

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 11 July 10 14:56 BST (UK)
Where did you get his date and place of birth from?

Does Benjamin appear on the 1851 census?
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: nigelp on Sunday 11 July 10 15:18 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find the birth of Benjamin Piers Gilbert in St Michael's, London in 1787.  Can anyone help me with where St Michael's is or would have been, and how to start looking for a baptism there. I'm finding London rather daunting. Thanks Louise.

If you are referring to the City of London there are the following possibilities for 1787:

St Michael Bassishaw
St Michael Cornhill
St Michael Crooked Lane
St Michael Le Querne
St Michael Paternoster Royal
St Michael Queenhithe
St Michael Wood Street

There are also other St Michaels outside the City of London.

We, therefore, need some further details or information regarding the source of your information.

Nigel
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: llama llady on Sunday 11 July 10 16:37 BST (UK)
The place of birth came from his army records and said just ' St Michael's London'. Benjamin died in 1834 so is not in any census.  Louise.
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: Valda on Sunday 11 July 10 18:43 BST (UK)
Hi

This is the index to his army record

WO 97/52/94 BENJAMIN GILBERT Born ST MICHAELS, London and Middlesex Served in 6th Dragoons Discharged aged 31 1800-1818

WO 121/205/199  BENJAMIN GILBERT. Born [Not Known]. Served in 6th Dragoons. Discharged aged 31 after 18 years of service. Residence or place where pension paid stated in document. See film image 147.

Have you obtained copies of the records to see whether there is any more information?


The IGI sometimes known as Family Search remains the only London wide index (but imperfect with many parish registers not covered) pre 1813.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: llama llady on Tuesday 13 July 10 16:11 BST (UK)
Thank you for that,

Yes I have looked into getting copies of Benjamin's records, but it looks like I will have to pay for research on the documents. Would anyone know how much this type of research is likely to cost?
Louise.
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: Valda on Tuesday 13 July 10 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi

The documents are on microfilm - you can order copies directly from The National Archives on their website. They will count the pages involved and give you a quote for the copying. The records I believe also go up on Findmypast sometime this month so can be obtained there either through subscription or pay as you go credits.

Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: Valda on Tuesday 13 July 10 20:20 BST (UK)
Hi

see this post for further information on obtaining copies of soldiers' records.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,467905.0/topicseen.html

Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: llama llady on Thursday 22 July 10 11:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Valda,

I have had a look on Findmypast the records are not there yet but will try again in a couple of weeks. If that fails I will get a quote from The National Archives.

Thanks again Louise.
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: Valda on Thursday 22 July 10 17:54 BST (UK)
Hi

The link I gave for further information from the Armed Forces board is suggesting that that is no longer possible

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I believe that TNA have now stopped accepting orders for any copying of WO97.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: GilbertCo on Wednesday 10 May 17 12:06 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find the birth of Benjamin Piers Gilbert in St Michael's, London in 1787.  Can anyone help me with where St Michael's is or would have been, and how to start looking for a baptism there. I'm finding London rather daunting. Thanks Louise.

Hi Louise

Have you managed to find anything else about Benjamin Piers Gilbert? He is also my 3x Great Grandfather but looking at the family tree I have researched I have no record of you... Perhaps he married twice?

I think it would prove useful to compare notes to see what we can discover about our family.

Gill
Title: Re: Gilbert, St Michael's, London
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 10 May 17 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi Gill

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Louise hasn't been online here since 2015 but as long as her email address hasn't changed, should receive a notification that you have posted and hopefully come back soon.

Dawn