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Repeats now showing week days, 9.15 am, BBC 1.
Kooky
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We are BACK - New Series of Heir Hunters Starts Monday 23rd feb 2015 BBC1 9:15am and on iPlayer
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https://www.facebook.com/HeirHunters
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We are BACK - New Series of Heir Hunters Starts Monday 23rd feb 2015 BBC1 9:15am and on iPlayer
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https://www.facebook.com/HeirHunters
I'd like Rootschat to have a LIKE button as Facebook does,cos I'd tick to say I like this post ;)
I've just set the Sky box to record it so I don't miss any of them!
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Here are some sneaky peaks of things to come 8)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2xnpvc1S5ZrEjY90YASj6C1hZctCRR4C
enjoy and tune in next week
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Great news, that for letting us know, I'm going to avoid the sneaky peak though !
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Oh great...look forward to that.
Carol
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Don't forget Heir Hunters starts Monday
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Great - thats now set up to record ... thank you :)
xin
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Just watched the first episode back . Very interesting and informative and sad all at the same time.
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Glad it's back, I really enjoyed the first episode, as candleflame has said it was interesting, very informative and I found it quite sad also.
Frank.
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I'm not sure about it. It was interesting but didn't show as much of the work behind the scenes as usual, it was far more about the people who had died rather than how they found the heirs.
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I agree with Groom, I like to see what they're doing in the office too.
Wasn't it sad that the man who Val brought up as a foster child,got nothing.
I was surprised that an educated,well travelled woman such as her didn't make a will.
Carol
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I agree with Groom, I like to see what they're doing in the office too.
Wasn't it sad that the man who Val brought up as a foster child,got nothing.
I was surprised that an educated,well travelled woman such as her didn't make a will.
Carol
I kept thinking that as well Carol. If they were as close as he maintained, I would have thought she would have made a will in his favour.
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My thoughts exactly...they obviously meant a lot too each other and it did surprise me too....I would like to have seen more research too.
Carol
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Thanks for posting time and TV Station
Sky box set to record series. Great to use when programmes are on so early or too late
Some of us need to go to work !
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I always record the programmes as I never put the television on until much later in the day. It is a shame that it is on at 9.30 am rather than 9.30 pm.
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Interesting again today and more genealogy for those who didn't enjoy yesterday's as much.
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Thanks for the feedback - you will find the episodes are all very different, the amout of Genealogy will depend on how much research was needed - some cases coming up are very complex and we go deep into the search - more simple ones there is not so much to say.
We aim to offer something for everyone and treat each story the best way possible
We are still on for most of March so tune in BBC1 9:15am and join the debate on Twitter or FB #heirhunters
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I'm with Groom...it deserves a prime time slot when you think of some the dross that's aired in the evenings.
Carol
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The research and the stories uncovered are fascinating, but am I the only one who gets impatient with the way the programme jumps from one story to the other, and all the repetition this involves?
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Every episode they feature 2 cases that have remained on the Bona Vacantia list for ages.
Have they solved many of them due to the publicity of the Heir Hunters programmes?
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The research and the stories uncovered are fascinating, but am I the only one who gets impatient with the way the programme jumps from one story to the other, and all the repetition this involves?
This is to make sure the viewer stays tuned...Authors do it too...It's what makes it compelling viewing.
Carol
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It's also done to make us shout at the TV Carol ;D
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It's also done to make us shout at the TV Carol ;D
Sorry but as Carol says its a common TV device and one the channel likes - we know it annoys some of you - we have however tried to ensure the recap is at a minimum so we don't repeat so much
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I was interested to hear the surname Gawkrodger in the first programme, because I used to work with someone of that name.
All that speculation about it being foreign, when it has been traced back to Sowerby Bridge in Yorkshire. There's a One Name Study into the name too.
For some reason the narrator insisted on consistently mispronouncing the name, whereas the people on screen got it right.
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It must have been awful for man of 33 years to find out that he was adopted.
I cannot remember his name but he was the one who lived over pub as a child.
His house and garden were full of scrap when he passed away. Loads of dinky toys !
His parents were wrong, to delay so long before telling him.
Formal Adoption was relatively new, so perhaps the parents were misguided.
I know a few people who were adopted, their parents told them, when they were very young,
Basic details before they started primary school.
As they reached teenage years, they were given more info.
When they reached 18 they were allowed to see their adoption papers.
Very good parent child relationships
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Enjoying this mornings ,talking about the AFS. Just wish all the service records had'nt been destroyed as my Dad was an AFS member in Birmingham.
Barb
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It's also done to make us shout at the TV Carol ;D
Sorry but as Carol says its a common TV device and one the channel likes - we know it annoys some of you - we have however tried to ensure the recap is at a minimum so we don't repeat so much
Yes its like by programme makers but detested by audiences, making many switch over as the programme turns into three quarters of an hour of repeats and adverts with about ten minutes of real content.
Cheers
Guy
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Have they solved many of them due to the publicity of the Heir Hunters programmes?
It would be good to know if the ones featured/advertised asking for people/relatives to get in touch are ever successful ???
Annie.
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Have they solved many of them due to the publicity of the Heir Hunters programmes?
It would be good to know if the ones featured/advertised asking for people/relatives to get in touch are ever successful ???
Annie.
That's what I wondered Annie,and even if it has encouraged more people to have a look at the Bona Vacantia list too.
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I found it (I am afraid !!!) too boring to continue watching....... :( I have the series taped - but keep flicking past them and not bothering to watch.
I do love the whole idea - and enjoy the discovery of finding the rellies, etc... I do not like to listen to the ''''sorry waffle'''' by the researchers................ whoops ..........
just my opinion - maybe I am being unfair. and the prog is not just for - people like us - who KNOW how to research etc etc etc...
Therefore it could possibly help and or encourage - newbie- researchers.
I may pick it up again and just flick through the bits I do not like.
xin
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It's also done to make us shout at the TV Carol ;D
Sorry but as Carol says its a common TV device and one the channel likes - we know it annoys some of you - we have however tried to ensure the recap is at a minimum so we don't repeat so much
I have recently been watching some programmes (originally made by the BBC as 58 minute programmes) on a commercial channel available on Freeview. To fit in the advert breaks these programmes have to be edited down to 45 minutes. I believe that the recaps are there as fillers and designed to be edited out without losing any substantial content when the product is sold on.
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Today, the programme makers, having made a very tenuous and rather pointless link to the murders in 10 Rillington Place by John Christie. I would have expected them to have included the fact that an innocent man, Timothy Evans, went to the gallows for the murder of his wife, later found to have been committed by Christie. Obviously because he was intellectually challenged, he was not considered worthy of a mention.
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I was interested in today's (16/3/2015) case of Ellen Bulling as she had different names for her father on her birth certificate and marriage certificate and I wanted to see how they resolved the issue as to who should inherit. However, unless I missed it, that was not made clear in the programme (just viewed it on BBc iplayer).
Did anyone else see the programme and whether they did actually give a definitive answer, but I just missed it ?
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They are going to do DNA to establish paternity ;)
Annie
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They are going to do DNA to establish paternity ;)
Annie
I too missed how they were going to resolve it.
I also missed the DNA idea though- although I did think of it myself whilst watching the programme.
Would that mean they have to take DNA from the deceased lady ?
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Thanks I had heard them say they might have to do DNA, re Maud I think, but they left it all in the air.
It could be they have done the DNA but don't want to reveal the results publicly, fair enough but then why include the case in the series.
What I was hoping is someone would have popped up and explained what legally happens when there is questionable parentage as in this case.
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As I understand it no they do not need to take the deceased lady's DNA they just need to take the DNA of all the competing heirs and see where the matches or not are
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No, one offspring has been established by certs. as full blood so if the others DNA isn't a certain % match it will mean half blood & not a descendant of the others father if that makes sense ???
Annie
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The series has always jumped on any 'story' link usually to explain something historical. It can be quite tenuous at times but it's usually harmless. I'm more irritated by the Finding Your Roots show on PBS which has an obvious agenda in the way it presents history via the family history of celebrities.
Back to HH how many Amys does Finders have? Everyone's called Amy ;D
Blue
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Finding Your Roots show on PBS
Is this a new prog & what does PBS mean & what days/times is it on please ???
Annie
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Think it is an American programme
http://video.pbs.org/program/finding-your-roots/
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Hi Groom,
Thanks for the link ;)
Annie
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Oh dear, I didn't realise it was back, so I've missed about 2 weeks worth of programmes, :'( hopefully I can catch them on iplayer. Recorder set now.
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The new series started on Monday 23rd feb Lizzie,so I fear you've missed more than 2 weeks progs :(
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Carol - Yes I realise that now, times goes so fast, I can't believe it's mid March already. ::) Hopefully the programmes will be repeated later on. I think the previous series were repeated about 7 or 7.30pm on BBC2 some time after each series had finished.
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Have been playing catchup, having recorded the programmes each morning. Last one I watched featured the girl at Finders saying she would have to order about' 50 certificates at the weekend'. She also showed at the end the file containing two enormous piles of 'wrong' certificates that had been ordered.
Knowing how much each certificate normally costs, I wonder if perhaps they have a special arrangement, othterwise it would scarcely be cost effective. Or have I missed something?
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I wonder if they catalogue and file the wrong certificate just incase they come in useful in the future? They now always seem to be waiting for certificates to arrive, whereas in earlier series they used to show people going to the register office to collect them.
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The new series started on Monday 23rd feb Lizzie,so I fear you've missed more than 2 weeks progs :(
When I watched yesterday's prog (recorded and watched during the evening) it was 18/20! I will just have to hope that they are shown again on BBC2, as they used to be.
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Have been playing catchup, having recorded the programmes each morning. Last one I watched featured the girl at Finders saying she would have to order about' 50 certificates at the weekend'. She also showed at the end the file containing two enormous piles of 'wrong' certificates that had been ordered.
Knowing how much each certificate normally costs, I wonder if perhaps they have a special arrangement, othterwise it would scarcely be cost effective. Or have I missed something?
I remember that programme, I too took a gulp at how many certificates - and wrong ones at that which they had ordered.
However to answer your question no they do not have a special arrangement with the GRO they have to pay the full price. If you do a search you will see this has been confirmed in the past by other heir hunting firms
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It doesn't seem a very sensible way of doing business, although having said that I have quite a few "wrong" certificates.
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Well, they came up against a brick wall today! Glad I am not the only one.
The history insets are fairly interesting but what does annoy me is the people who tell us that the deceased was tall, thin, smart etc... I fail to see that being of any relevance. We could have just a 30 minute programme and stick to the chase? The actual research is, for me, what was attractive about the earlier programmes. I am getting to the stage when I think I won't bother watching any more.
Nice to see David Pacifico again - was beginning to think he had retired.
FS
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Great to see David Pacifico again.
No reason why Heir Hunters should be an advertorial programme for Fraser and Fraser but I do miss the characters that featured so prominently in previous series. Downplayed drastically this time.
Perhaps Finders are more attuned to the 20/30 somethings that appeal to TV producers.
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I agree that this series feels very different and the characters aren't quite there for me. It just feels like it's more commercial rather than genealogical ?? which is probably their attempt to appeal to a different audience. O well.
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Quite enjoying this series. I usually record and then whizz through the bits in which I am not interested 8)
I do wish though that lucky heirs would pronounce GENEALOGISTS correctly ::)
Sorry to be picky.
Kooky
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Last one Monday and then it goes to repeats from previous years.
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Sorry for the slow reply
David P is about to retire, in fact tomorrow is has last day. He will be missed.
The new program has changed and we don't like it as much, the main problem is flame the production firm dont put as much resource into it, we used to have film crews with all our guys on the road and 2 crews in the office now they just have 1 in the office. This means there are working more "b" stories
"A" stories used to be live cases and we only don by F&F they contain a lot more research. However the are expensive as lots of stories get wasted as the heirs don't agree to be filmed or the struggle to pick up the story. Flame also have to put a lot more effort into it to get the guys on the road and in the office.
"B" stories are retro stories, they are solved cases and contain little or no research and rely on the social story behind the heir finding bit.
F&F like "A" stories but they take a lot of work and when flame follow other firms they just dont catch the interesting bit in the office.
we would love to do more live cases and have some proper research shown but at the moment it looks like the production is heading the other way and that may mean that we drop out of HH.
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only 1 of the appeals has ever lead to a case being solved and that was on series 2.
I have asked them to restructure the appeals and use real cases where the research is stuck, however this gives the problem of who to give the lead to.
This years appeals were just take from the BV case list, F&F could have added so much more such as the value or the reason that the case wasn't solved (most were because they were of tiny value) but the BBC dont allow us to.
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Oh dear....
Wont want to watch if its not F & F :(
will miss the faces .....
I do enjoy some of the other firms, but I HATE WAFFLE..... too much of it going on and repeating and repeating... NITTY GRITTY - facts -- Chase - search - etc .... Seek and find is what I like.. I love the history side of the people, but also don't need to see how great uncle Fred went to work in the snow to achieve what he did. (in so much detail) just a rough outline maybe.... if you understand me. I am picky and I know that sounds contradictory... but I know what I mean :) :) :)
xin
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The firm I like best is Celtic research, they travel to Ireland to follow up Church records.
The younger man uses public transport all the time.
They also work on cases of foreign nationals.
The surname changes must cause them a lot of frustration.
I wish David Pacifico of Fraser & Fraser, a long healthy and happy retirement.
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I love Heir Hunters - but please please please could the background music - (particularly the pianist ...) be toned down a bit. Like a lot of programmes of late the background music is too intrusive.
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Best wishes to David Pacifico on his retirement. My hubby, a non-gene person, watches the programme especially to see David chew on his specs whilst studying the papework!!
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Best wishes to David Pacifico on his retirement, may it be a long and healthy one. I will really miss F&F if they pull out of HH. Frostyknight
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Good luck to David Pacifico he always came across to me as a character you'd liked to have worked with.
Blue
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David has been an absolute Star with out him working for the firm we would never be where we are today. He signed more heirs and solved more cases than any one else in the industry. With out him I don't think I would ever be a partner here.
Thanks of the messages and I will pass them all on.
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I hope he has a long and happy retirement. Tell him if he gets bored, to look in on RootsChat - he might be able to help people break down a few brick walls. ;D
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Good point groom. Best Wishes to David P. It would be a real shame if Fraser and Fraser dropped out. It would be good if the production company took on board the genealogical enthusiasts comments, recognising that they want new people to watch the programme too. I think we here have all learnt things as a result of the Heir Hunter series.
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I love Heir Hunters - but please please please could the background music - (particularly the pianist ...) be toned down a bit. Like a lot of programmes of late the background music is too intrusive.
Yes it is & sometimes makes it very difficult to hear what's being said particularly with each having different accents ::)
Annie
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I hope he has a long and happy retirement. Tell him if he gets bored, to look in on RootsChat - he might be able to help people break down a few brick walls. ;D
I'll second that....what an asset he would be to the Rootschat.
Carol
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I've really enjoyed this series. I would also like to wish David P. a long and happy retirement.
I agree with the comments about background music ( if you can call it music!) being too loud. The episode where someone was being interviewed with the background of a P&O cruise liner was ruined for me by not being able to hear what was being said.
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Think it is an American programme
http://video.pbs.org/program/finding-your-roots/
Is there a way for us to watch this in the UK as I keep getting this error message:
We're sorry, but this video is not available in your region due to right restrictions.