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Title: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: joken on Saturday 17 July 10 07:36 BST (UK)
Looking for info on
Samuel Agnew born abt 1806 to James Agnew and Margaret Withers.  James parents Niven Agnew and Janet McDugall.
Many thanks
Joanne
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 08:51 BST (UK)
Hi Joanne

I'm having problems locating a baptism, marriage, death  or any census records for him in Wigtownshire. Could you tell me the source of your information, please?

There is a Samuel Agnew on the 1851 and 1861 census in Glasgow, born 1804 - 1809  but this one was born in Ireland.

Have you tried the Wigtownshire Pages ~

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~leighann/


Gadget
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: joken on Saturday 17 July 10 10:16 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget,
On the IGI Nevin Agnew was born abt 1739 in Stranraer, Wigtown and he married 3 Dec 1764 Janet McDowall (IGI)
Issue for Nevin and Janet
Elizabeth 1765, John 1767, Grizal 1769, Janet 1771, James 1775.

James Agnew born abt 1775 married 22Feb 1806 Margaret Witther at Stoneykirk. (Samuel's parents)

Samuel born born abt 1806 Pimminnoch, Strannaer (off the shipping record and his parents details were off his shipping record).  He was married in Ireland in 1837 Mallow, Co Cork and had three children in Ireland and ten in Australia.
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 10:38 BST (UK)
No baptism records for any children of James and Margaret in Wigtownshire on SP.

What religion were they?


Gadget

Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: joken on Saturday 17 July 10 10:49 BST (UK)
On the shipping record it said that his Baptism was registered in Cork.  I'm sure he was Protestant and she was Catholic.  But it says his parents were Scottish.
  Plot thickens    Joanne
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 10:54 BST (UK)
So it looks as if they married in Stoneykirk and then went over to Ireland and then  moved to Australia - have you followed him up there because I don't think you'll find anything more about them in Wigtownshire  :-\ :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: joken on Saturday 17 July 10 11:03 BST (UK)
Many thanks for all you help.
Joanne
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 11:17 BST (UK)
It might be worth trying the Cork Board as well ~

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,56.0.html

Also, you could try Somhairle and Sorley rather than Samuel.



Gadget
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 17 July 10 11:20 BST (UK)
To find information in Cork you will need to have a more exact location than Co. Cork.
Have you check marriage and death certificates for the 3 children born in Ireland to see if there's any location given?
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 11:21 BST (UK)
They married in Mallow, Aghadowey. (Reply #2)

I've only been to Co. Cork once so don't have much info and no relatives there.
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 17 July 10 12:14 BST (UK)
Mallow could refer to the town or the area. Unfortunately 1837 is well before the start of civil registration which means searching for church records (if they exist).
There are some Cork church records on this site and I believe more will be added in the future-
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 12:38 BST (UK)
This looks like their arrival:

New South Wales Assisted Passenger Lists ~ Arrival 21st July 1841 (Sydney) on board the Helen

Samuel Agnew,  35, farm servant, Presbyterian, Wigtownshire
Mary .. , 26, Protestant, Cork
James, 7 1/2, son, -do-
Mary, 4, daughter, -do-
Margaret, 3, daughter, -do


Gadget
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 17 July 10 14:08 BST (UK)
There is a baptism record for Margaret Agnew on the Family Search Pilot site:

20 May 1838, Ballyglogh parish, Cork  Parents - Samuel Agnew and Mary

and, same source, which is where Joanne might have got the info is ~

Marriage - Sam. Agnew  and  Mary Anne Cudmore on 13 April 1837, Mallow Parish, Cork

I'm wondering if this was Samuel's second marriage, given the 7 year old son on the passenger list.

Gadget
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: joken on Sunday 18 July 10 00:01 BST (UK)
Hi, Many thanks for this - so - if Samuel ? married twice  - given James was 7n1/2 - where would we go for Samuel's first marriage.  Never gave it a thought re the age of James.
Joanne
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: joken on Sunday 18 July 10 04:54 BST (UK)
Hi, thanks for all your help.  Checked out the Irish Gene site and this is just fantastic if they belonged to the RC church.  On the Shipping records Mary Anne states she is Protestant.
Joanne
Title: Re: Agnew - Portpatrick
Post by: Druid56 on Thursday 13 January 11 16:31 GMT (UK)
Quote from: joken on Saturday 17 July 10 10:16 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget,
On the IGI Nevin Agnew was born abt 1739 in Stranraer, Wigtown and he married 3 Dec 1764 Janet McDowall (IGI)
Issue for Nevin and Janet
Elizabeth 1765, John 1767, Grizal 1769, Janet 1771, James 1775.

James Agnew born abt 1775 married 22Feb 1806 Margaret Witther at Stoneykirk. (Samuel's parents)

Samuel born born abt 1806 Pimminnoch, Strannaer (off the shipping record and his parents details were off his shipping record).  He was married in Ireland in 1837 Mallow, Co Cork and had three children in Ireland and ten in Australia.
Hi I notice you spell it  NEVIN but if you put NIVEN in the search boxes there are listings for him on SP I have sen this name a few times whilst researchng my tree  I have Agnews from this area in my tree wonder if you have any info on HAMILTON  born 1781 ish  or his son Hathorn 1814 (hawthorn )