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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: nicktothewood on Saturday 24 July 10 23:18 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
basically this is a photo I found at a relatives house, says ormonde cottage beneath the photo as you can see. Been trying to find where the house is situated for ages.
on 1911 census an ormonde cottage is to be found in malvern wells with a wood family living in it (same as mine)
So do any locals recognise it?
Hope someone can help.
Kind regards, Nick.
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Hi Nick
Try getting in youch with the Malvern FHS as they would more than likely be able to help you out
All the very best
Phil
Weston-super-Mare
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Thanks, but there isnt an email address on the fhs site so i cant seem to contact them :(
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If you click on
Membership
and then open the
Membership Form
there's a postal address for the membership secretary.
Linda
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have consulted my 1928 street directory and there was an Ormond Cottage in The Assarts, Malvern Wells (Henry Wood - a baker)
However the picture does not look like the Assarts Road I know. It is very steep and the house in the photo is on the flat. However "The Assarts" may have had a different start and finish to the modern Assarts Rd.
I have a couple of other directories - I will try to narrow it down for you.
netti
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It is a lovely picture. Have you tried searching the area on Google Earth to see if you can spot it?
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After a bit more research I think The Assarts was split some time in the 30's into Assarts Rd, Assarts Lane & Kings Road.
Because of the background and apparent flatness of the surroundings in your picture, I don't think it was in any of these Roads. I will have another think to see if anywhere springs to mind...
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Netti - Okay thanks alot you are really helpful :)
Just seen this on google with flattish land and similar building?
http://www.globrix.com/property-details/24971029-assarts_road-malvern-wr14-5_bed
I have just been looking on google earth, it is difficult to see whether or not the house is there.
I hope that the Ormonde cottage is actually the one in malvern and havnt just been on a wild goose chase!
Nick.
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That house is much further down the Assarts than Ormond Cottage. I think Ormond was along Kings Rd.
In my directory it has Stanley Cottage one side & Poplar Cottage the other. There is a house at the top of Assarts Road which is very similar but no bay window upstairs and not as much space in front. Also I am pretty certain this house was called Hill View and was part of the Abbey School for Girls.
I have friend who lived along Kings Rd until quite recently, I will ask her if she knew of Ormond Cottage. It doesn't appear in my later directories but may have been renamed.
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Okay thanks very much :)
hmm what about checking poplar cottage or stanley cottage on later directories to see what the building in between is called?
Thanks, Nick.
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aha - now why didn't I think of that!
Ok: 1940 Kings Rd west side
Abbey Cott south
Abbey Cott north - I know where these are!
Poplar Cottage
Clovelly (another Wood in residence)
Stanley
Hiltonia
Hazel Bank
Well I think this is bad news! The next house along from Abbey Cottage is a row of terraced cottages - still there today - and definitely not the one in the photo :(
How long were the Woods in residence?
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Thanks, so does that mean that ormonde cottage was renamed clovelly? or not?
I have no idea whether or not the Woods in question are any relation, I just thought it had to be likely seen as there were woods living in an 'ormonde cottage' . All the Wood side of my family are from up north so it seems weird that any would be in malvern wells, but who knows?!
Nick.
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Yes it looks like it was renamed Clovelly.
So it looks like you may have to look elsewhere for your house :(
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Hi Again
You didnt look very hard for the Malvern FHS - here is the full web address http://www.mfhs.org.uk
Good luck
Phil
Weston-super-Mare
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Netti, the photo was taken before it would have been renamed though, so it could actually be the Clovelly house couldn't it? Or do you know that house and it isnt the one in question?
Philheeks - I emailed the site a couple of days ago, but havnt had a reply..
Nick.
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Nick
I think all of the cottages were in a terrace - there's a chance it was one at the end. I have emailed a friend to see if she can help...
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Recently had some family tree work done and found in 1911 census my family were listed as living in Ormonde Cottage, Worcestershire.
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Julie, I don't know if you noticed, but this thread is from 2010.
Malky
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I did - hoping his e-mail or contact details may be the same!
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If you click on the poster's name in the first post, you will see when they were last active on R.C.
Malky
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I've just stumbled upon this revived old thread. :)
Recently had some family tree work done and found in 1911 census my family were listed as living in Ormonde Cottage, Worcestershire.
Julie, what was the name of the family living in Ormonde Cottage in 1911?
Added: Welcome to rootschat. :)
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Hi - the family name is Wood.
Julie
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Thanks for that Julie. I was going to look them up to see if I could narrow down the location of the house. Can you give further details of the family (eg full names dates and places of birth etc) to give me more to go on. Wood is such a common name. :)
You can contact Nick Wood who started this thread by clicking on his name and sending him a Personal Message. He should get a notification that you have posted on his thread if he has set this up and if he still has the same email address. He doesn't seem to have logged in to rootschat for a few years. :-\
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The information I have in 1891 census is that Ormonde Cottage is located in Hanley Castle, Upton on Severn, Worcester. Eliza Wood (57) is listed as head of the household with profession as baker.
In 1911 census the cottage is listed as being in Malvern Wells, with Harry Wood (38) as head of household.
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The information I have in 1891 census is that Ormonde Cottage is located in Hanley Castle, Upton on Severn, Worcester. Eliza Wood (57) is listed as head of the household with profession as baker.
In 1911 census the cottage is listed as being in Malvern Wells, with Harry Wood (38) as head of household.
Thanks Julie.
Have you tried searching for the house? I would like to have a shot at it but if you have already found it there is no point me looking. :D
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I've done a Google search, but it may be the house has either been re-named or not there any more. I wouldn't worry about spending too much time searching for it; I am new to family tree research and still trying to process all the information which a professional search has revealed! But thank you all the same.
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For info - Malvern Wells was included in the Hanley Castle census district. I will take a proper look later and see if I can find out more. Alternatively there is a very active Malvern History facebook group who would no doubt help if you are happy for me to share it there?
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Hi Julie, the house in your family tree is in Kings Road, Malvern Wells and is now number 33 I think. If you look at street view on maps you will see it is in a terrace of 4 houses. It is not the house in the photo at the top of this thread.
Hope this helps a bit. If you have any more Malvern questions then please get in touch.
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Netti, are you saying that the Ormonde Cottage that Julie’s Wood family was living in in 1891 and 1911 is not the same Ormonde Cottage that is in the photo? :-\
(or have I misunderstood?)
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Yes that 's right Ruskie.
Original poster Nick found photo in family collection. Searched for an Ormonde Cottage in 1911 and found the one in Malvern Wells despite having no known connection to the area. Coincidentally a family named Wood were in residence - his family name. Wondered if the photo showed the Malvern Wells house - it doesn't. I think his Ormonde Cottage is more likely in the area his Woods are from ("up north")
But Julie is related to the Woods at Ormond Cottage, Malvern Wells in 1891/1911, now 33 Kings Road, Malvern Wells. Does this make better sense :)
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Ah yes, I see. That makes sense Netti. :)
So you think Nick and Julie both having Wood ancestors is just a co-incidence?
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Yes I think so. If Nick has done more research since this ancient thread maybe he knows the answer and will update us eventually :)
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Netti and Ruskie - thank you for your help with this one :) I shall wait and see if Nick gets in touch.
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If he does get in touch, ask him if there is a "Copyright" stamp on the back. That may give you an idea as to the area it is/was located.
Malky
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Yes, it will be interesting to see what Nick has discovered about the house in the intervening years, if anything. :)