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Title: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Tuesday 27 July 10 17:16 BST (UK)
Hi does anyone know of the link,if there is one between the two McCoskry familys living in Rhonehouse 1851 census
My side Elisabeth   37  mother widow Nee Copland
             Nathaniel  10
             Mary             9
             Robert         4

The other family
Isabella McC 70 Head of house
James McC   35 son
Samuel Lock  14 nephew
Robert McC  5
Ithink that there is a link because I believe there is a stone in mid kelton churhyard with the second family in there and they had sons called Nathaniel also aswell as Robert so I think that these are family names any help would be appreciated .
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 August 10 06:34 BST (UK)
Hi

On the 1841, there are these families ~

Rhonehouse, Kelton
869 ED 3 P 6

Mccoskey
John, 56, farmer
Isabella, 55
James, 24
Amelia, 20
Samuel Locke, 6

All b. Kirkcudbrightshire

(bpt of a John McCroskie in Kirkcudbright 29 Oct 1795 to John McCroskie and Mary Kermont)

and

Rhonehouse, Kelton
869 ED 3 P 7

McCosky
Robert,  30, ag lab
Elisabeth, 25
Nathaniel, 1

I've not been able to establish a connection between John and Robert so far but, if names are significant, an Al(l)an McCoskrie of Twynholm had, amongst others,  a Nathaniel (13 Oct 1782) and a Samuel (29 July 1784) baptised.

I'll check my MIs later.


Gadget
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Sunday 01 August 10 08:55 BST (UK)
 :)Cheers for that Its not a very common name and as I stated they both have Roberts and Nathaniels in them . S o Ithink there is probably a link. Look forward to your next posting
Thanks again
       Angus
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 August 10 10:42 BST (UK)
 :)

I've found this birth/baptism which might well be Robert as the age fits with the 1841 (30-34):

Irongray -  30 June 1808 Robert Coskry son of  John Coskry and Isobel Walker

If you recall, John's wife Isobel(la) on the Kelton MI was Isobella Walker

This would mean that Elisabeth was Isabella's daughter in law


Gadget



Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 August 10 10:57 BST (UK)
Also baptisms  at Kelton:

29 April 1840 Nathan (I presume Nathaniel in the censuses)
13 April 1842 Mary
21 June 1847 Robert

All children of Robert Coskry and Elisabeth Coupland

and ~

9 April 1821 Amelia daughter of John Coskry and Isabella Walker


Gadget
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 August 10 10:58 BST (UK)
A relevant MI:

Tongland- Allan McCoskery d Low Tarff Bridge 4 March 1841, aged 83. Father Samuel McCoskery d Keltonhill 20 March  1797, aged 77


Gadget
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 01 August 10 13:24 BST (UK)
A few more baptisms for  children of Robert and Elisabeth in Kelton.  The surname is  entered as McCoskry here:

5 August 1844 John

16 July1846 Robert (possibly died as another in 1847, see above)

20 August 1848 Jane
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Sunday 01 August 10 20:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the input Ive just checked all my papers and found some MI's that I copied a few years ago from mid kelton cemetary In memory of
John McCoskry died at Rhonehouse 4-1-1894 age 68
Nathaniel son late of New York died at Rhonehouse 16-1-1846 age 26
Also of Samuel his son died in New Yorkon 10-7-1844 age 27
Also Issabella Walker relict died at Rhonehouse 21-3-1834 age 73
Also John McCoskry their G son died at Rhone house 31-7-1867 age 13
Also Mary Jane Henry McCoskry their G daughter who died  3- 9 185?
John McCoskry ? G son


then another stone next to this that read
Erected by Samuel McCoskry
in Rhonehouse in memory of spouse  Mary Reid 16-5 1806 aged 45
and their children
Mary ,Robert , Samuel
died in infancy
Also their son Nathaniel who died at sea on passage to NY 22-7 181? age 26
and son Samuael who died in NY 17-10-1835 aged 34
Also of the above Samuel McCoskry died 27-1-1810
Also of Lucy Wilson his second wife
some of these link with what you have given me so I will try to make some sense of it all
I've also discovered that a Robert McCoskry born in Kelton hills (Rhonehouse) in 1792 went to NY in 1810 and later started a business with his brother Nathaniels widow so plenty for me to sort through Thanks again for your input and if you discover anything else please pass it on  :)
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: matt muir on Thursday 07 October 10 22:36 BST (UK)
In your last post about the MI's at Kelton Cemetery you quote two headstones.
The 1st one starting as below,
In memory John McCoskry died at Rhonehouse 4-1-1894 age 68...

The second one next to the first one which starts,
Erected by Samuel McCoskry etc.....

These are not two seperate headstones,but are in fact one headstone.The details are engraved on both the front & the rear of the stone.

This headstone is up close to the corner of a wall,so only half of the back panel can be read. Another stone is
covering the front panel and again only part of the front can be seen. This other stone at the front relates to a William McCoskry who died 1925.His wife Agnes Gibson died 1923 & their daughter Jane who died 1937.

I have a photo if you would like a copy.
Rgds Matt
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Friday 08 October 10 17:05 BST (UK)
Hi Matt just dropped you a pm
cheers
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: matt muir on Friday 08 October 10 22:58 BST (UK)
Angus.

E-mail with photographs sent.
Rgds Matt
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: riddler on Monday 29 August 11 22:18 BST (UK)
Angus,

Was there a connection to Gadgets Samual McCoskery d. 1797 in reply #5 to those you were researching?

Jimmy
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Monday 29 August 11 23:13 BST (UK)
Hi Jimmy as far as I can definatley confirm with records is the Marriage of Robert Coskry to Elisabeth Copland feb 9 1840, and the 1841 census that gives his age as 30. So that gives his birth around 1811 there are not many McCoskry's around Rhonehouse and my suspicions are that they are probably all related from before this, but up to now I don't have any proof of this altho the family's that live in the area both seem to use Robert and Nathanial as names
the link below takes you to my family tree it may be of some help to you I wonder why you ask maybe you have some info I may find useful  ?
Cheers  Angus
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/4665074/family?fpid=-1087446356
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: riddler on Wednesday 31 August 11 08:29 BST (UK)
My 5th GG Father was Samuel McCoskery, his grand-daughter Mary Coskery in turn had a daughter Anne who married James Coupland (b c. 1829, Kirkmahoe) so seems possible that with both Couplands and McKoskerys there may be a link to your own tree.  I'm not currently subscribed to Ancestry, but planning to in near future so perhaps once I have looked at your tree I'll be back in touch.

Jimmy
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Wednesday 31 August 11 18:47 BST (UK)
Cheers Jimmy  if I find a link I will post it up so keep a watch for my posts . I didn't think you needed to subscribe to ancestry to look at the trees only if you wanted to start a tree of your own altho you may have to join but not pay anything
   good hunting
   Angus
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: madchia on Saturday 03 December 11 23:30 GMT (UK)
A relevant MI:

Tongland- Allan McCoskery d Low Tarff Bridge 4 March 1841, aged 83. Father Samuel McCoskery d Keltonhill 20 March  1797, aged 77


Gadget

I'm researching Landsboroughs, but this may be of interest as well.

http://www.kirkyards.co.uk/tongland/tongland.asp?offset=20

Inscription 147
In memory of Margaret Harris, spouse to Allan McCoskery, who died at Tarff Bridge, May 25th 1823, aged 61 years. Also the above Allan McCoskery who died at Low Tarff Bridge, March 4th 1841 aged 83. Also John Landsborough, their son-in-law, who died at New Dairy, 23rd Feb. 1864, aged 89 years. Also Margaret McCoskery, their daughter and wife of the above who died at Dunjop [Dunlop?], 22nd Dec. 1867 aged 79 years.

Reverse: Also his father Samuel McCoskery, who died at Keltonhill, March 20th 1797, aged 77 years. Also his mother Ann Brydson, who died August the 10th 1804, aged 80 years.

 

Pat
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Druid56 on Sunday 04 December 11 20:14 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for the info. Tarff bridge is only a stone throw from keltonhill and samuel died there, so  there is a good chance it links up with mine some where. I will have to check all my papers and see if I can make a definate confirmed link . many thanks again for the info
  Angus
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: MarjorieS on Wednesday 15 August 12 21:39 BST (UK)
Riddler

Samuel McCoskery is also my husband's 5 x Great grandfather, through Mary's son Gavin Milligan.  Would be interested in sharing any information with you.

Marjorie
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Winchat on Thursday 16 August 12 10:05 BST (UK)
Hi,
I've been working on and off for some years on the Gavin Milligan who married Mary McCoskry family and have never been able to find Mary's parentage. Her age varies in the census and she seems to have been born 1804-1807.
I'm interested that Marjorie says that she descends from Samuel.Do you have a record of her birth or parentage somehow ?
Although many of her children with Gavin were born in Kelton, she gave her birthplace as Twynholme.

This sent me to parish registers where I found the following entries for Twynholm:
1782      Nathaniel   son   Alan McCoskre      Twynholm
1784      Samuel   son   Alan McCoskre      Twynholm
1786      Busby   son   Alan McCoskre      Twynholm
1796      Alan   son   Alan McCoskre      Twynholm

Sadly the records for later seem to have been absent.

So these christian names seem to tie across to the ones which you have all found and I offer them in case it helps.

cheers
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: MarjorieS on Thursday 16 August 12 17:37 BST (UK)
Winchat

I have a copy of Mary's death record from Scotland's People which shows her father as Allan Coskrie and her mother as Margaret Herries which more or less ties on to the tombstone in Tongland.

Marjorie
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: Winchat on Thursday 16 August 12 18:13 BST (UK)
Marjorie,

Many thanks.
I have her Mary Milligan (nee McCoskrie) death as March 4th 1876 aged 70 years. Is that the right one ?
For some reason I obviously didn't see the whole thing as I have no note of her parents from that record.

Do you have similar info for Gavin Milligan by any chance ? and from which of their children does your husband descend ?

best wishes,
Winchat
Title: Re: McCoskry's Rhonehouse (Keltonhill)
Post by: MarjorieS on Thursday 16 August 12 22:35 BST (UK)
Whinchat

I have Mary Coskrie's death as 18/2/1876 age 70 at St Marys Street, Kirkcudbright.

Gavin Milligan d 23/5/1886 in Kirkcudbright age 86.  His parents were William Milligan and Janet Hornell.

My husband is descended from their son Gavin Milligan.

Happy to share any information - drop me a PM.

Marjorie