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I'm trying to find the death of Mary Nicholson, born Mary Atkinson c1834.
In 1881 she was at Whinfell, Westmorland.
I can't find her on the 1891 census, so I am assuming she died 1881-1891.
I cannot find any death using FreeBMD and Ancestry.com
Any ideas ?
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Just to "flesh out" your post above - Mary was born in Beal Foot Yorkshire although living in Westmorland in 1881. In 1871 - her birthplace is shown as Howgill Yorks
She was farming 298 acres at Top Thorn and her children were as follows - all b Whinfell:
John 25
Agnes 18
Mary Jane 14
Thomas 12
Eleanor 9
In 1891 - son John is farming Top Thorn
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Carole - Your findings are correct, although I think there is a transcription error, Beal Foot should read Beck Foot which is near Howgill/Sedbergh in Yorkshire.
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Hi
Like you - I can't find anything after 1881 so I'm wondering whether she re-married between 1881-1891
The 1891 has a Mary Hindson aged 55 b Sedbergh and a Mary Rogerson aged 55 b Howgill but I'm off to watch Sherlock Holmes so can't check until later
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I tried that one too . No marriage found.
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Carole - We need Sherlock Holmes here !!! ;D
This Mary (formerly Atkinson) has caused so much confusion. I have discovered there were 2 Mary Atkinsons born around the same time. In 1861 "my" Mary is married to Rowland Nicholson. The other Mary is with her parents Rowland and Mary Atkinson. i
I have spent all day tring to establish the parents of "my" Mary. Many problems were caused by the fact that both of them were not consistent with their birthplaces on the censuses. Each varied between Howgill and Sedbergh.
I have deduced that the parents I need are Thomas and Mary, although doubt is in my mind because Mary, when married, on the censuses of 1861, 1871 and 1881, is fairly consistent by having birthplaces 2 x Howgill and 1 x Beck Fell which is nearby. The Mary who I think might be her before marriage put Yorkshire on 1841 and Sedbergh on 1851. Now in 1841 and 1851 she clearly lived in the town of Sedbergh itself. I am wondering if her parents originally lived at Howgill and moved to Sedbergh after the birth of Mary.
I think I will have to go to the LDS Family Records in London to look up the Parish records. Both Mary's christenings are listed on IGI but I am hoping the actual microfilm when viewed will give possibly the parents address at the time of christening. Maybe it gives no more than the online viewing of the records.
See what I mean.
Sherlock where are you ?
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I've just established that the Mary Hindson and Mary Rogerson you referred to were married to William Hindson and John Rogerson.
I have looked in FreeBMD for any marriages of these two names to a Mary Atkinson. No matches.
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If she re-married - it would have been as Mary Nicholson - not Atkinson. I'm just going to check the 181 to see if those 2 ladies were listed
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Well bang goes that theory - both Hindson & Rogerson check out on the 1881 so back to the drawing board!!
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Wouldn't your Mary's marriage certificate establish her father's name? That would be half the battle to find her parents. When and where did she marry?
Andrea
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Also, have you checked the 1901 census, just in case she was missed off the 1891 or out of county? Have you also followed all her children in case she turns up, for example, living with a married daughter and recorded by mistake under the daughter's married name?
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In reply to the last two posts :
(a) Mary Atkinson (maiden name) married Rowland Nicholson Q2 1855, registered in Kendal.
(b) I have just checked all the children in 1891 and 1901 - Mary Nicholson is not with any of them.
Yes, of course I could get the marriage certificate for Mary to show her father. She is not that close to me and the fun of genealogy to me is the detective part. It's impossible, financially, to obtain certificates for these very, very, very distant relations.
Thanks to all for your continued interest in this thread.
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Hi,
I found this marriage here,
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html
Rowland NICHOLSON
Mary ATKINSON
22 April 1855
Kendal, Westmoreland
Groom's father: John Nicholson
Bride's father: James ATKINSON
This could be her in 1851,
1851 HO107/ 2441 f.301 p.10 Dillicar, Westmorland (Registration district: Kendal, Sub-registration district: Ambleside)
Dilicar
Lower F?? Holme
ATKINSON
James Head 49 Farmer 24 acres Yorkshire Sedburgh
Elizabeth Wife 43 " "
Mary Daur 16 " "
Thomas Son 12 " Dilicar
Jonathan Son 5 " "
and in 1841,
1841 HO107/1161/3 f.5 p.5 Kendal, Westmoreland (Registration district: Kendal, Sub-registration district: Grayrigg)
Township: Dillicar
Low Fleet Holme
James 40 Farmer No
Elizabeth 33 No
Thomas 2 Yes
Mary 6 No
The page before has High Gill and Beck Foot on it :)
The only Dillicar I can find on a map is SW of Sedbergh so I don't think it's the right one, this page says Dillicar is NW of Kendal, so I don't think it is the same
http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/place_page.jsp?p_id=3513
I think this could be it,
"Dillaker... Adjoining to lambrigg on the East, is the hamlet of Dillaker; of which we have met with no particular account"
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Kendal/
Regards,
Daisy
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Thank you Daisy.
This looks promising info, and new to me.
Certainly looks like the correct marriage, with Mary's father a JAMES. Wow !
I have to pop out for an hour or so, I'll review the info later.
Thanks again.
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I reviewed the info.
It's perfect. This definately sorts out the parentage of Mary.
Thank you so much Daisy.
The thread had gone off track slightly in so much as I originally wanted to find the death of Mary Atkinson but now my other problem, regarded her parentage is solved.
Many thanks again.
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COMPLETED - THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT
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