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Title: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: trish18 on Monday 02 August 10 20:42 BST (UK)
Hi

Does anyone have any information on the death of Mary Griffiths of Plantation Street, Rhymney in about 1932.

Older family members say she was murdered by her husband and the case was reported in the national newspapers.

Would welcome any information.

Regards

Trish18
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 August 10 00:10 BST (UK)
There are 2 Mary Griffiths deaths in Bedwelty registration district in 1932.  One was aged 41 and the other was 53 - which one is yours?

There was also one in 1931 but she was 87

Bedwelty was the RD for Rhymney for that period
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: trish18 on Tuesday 03 August 10 08:37 BST (UK)
I'm assuming it is the one aged 41 as I know her birth year was about 1891. Her maiden name was Mary Carroll, husband was HenryGriffiths.

Regards

Trish18
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 03 August 10 13:15 BST (UK)
Hi

Searching newspapers is very time consuming unless you can narrow the dates down.   

You would need to buy a copy of her death cert to establish the circumstances of her death and the actual date of death

This is the GRO ref for ordering purposes and you can order online at

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/  the cost is £9.25

Mary Griffiths aged 41 December quarter 1932 Bedwelty Volume 11A Page 131
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: trish18 on Tuesday 03 August 10 13:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for the advice CaroleW.

You are right, I think I will have to order the death certificate to get any further information.

Regards

Trish18
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: RCB on Wednesday 04 August 10 20:08 BST (UK)
It looks like Henry didn't hang for the murder, so he probably was classed as insane and served life ?
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: Jeuel on Wednesday 11 August 10 22:45 BST (UK)
There's nothing in  The Times Online archive.  You'll need to get the death cert which will help you with the timeframe to search local newspapers.

You might even find she died of natural causes!



Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: PatrickSullivan on Saturday 04 August 18 18:34 BST (UK)
Hi Trish. Did you find out what happened to Mary Griffiths/Carroll? My grandfather James Sullivan and Mary's mother Eliza Carroll born Sullivan were brother and sister.
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: trish18 on Saturday 04 August 18 20:10 BST (UK)
Hi Patrick,

Yes, I did find out that the story was true but Mary's husband, Henry Griffiths, was charged with manslaughter, not murder. I have the newspaper articles from the Merthyr Express, which Stephen Kings from Bargoed Library found for me.
I can email you copies of them if you would like to see them?  I assume I can still contact you at the email address I have used before?

Regards

Trish
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: PatrickSullivan on Saturday 04 August 18 20:26 BST (UK)
Yes please Trish. Very much appreciated. Remember when you sent me a photo from a newspaper article of my great grandfather John Sullivan and a story of 10 of his family serving in WW1, what newspaper was it printed in? My email address is still the same one.
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: Stogang on Sunday 13 September 20 15:17 BST (UK)
Hi. Not sure how old this  thread is, but Mary was my wife's grandmother, I have a photo of her as well. Would like to look at this further.
Thanks,
Paul
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: sarah on Sunday 13 September 20 20:14 BST (UK)
Hello Paul,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

The topic was posted in 2010 but Trish was online earlier today so will be notified of your reply by email.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: trish18 on Sunday 13 September 20 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi Paul,

Mary Griffiths was my Grandfathers sister. What information are you looking for?
Happy to help, if I can.

Trish
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: Stogang on Monday 14 September 20 11:04 BST (UK)
Hi Trish, thanks for the response. Mary was my wife's grandmother. I have the reports on her death,but do you have any other info, if so that would be great. Photos would be fantastic if you have any. I do however have a photo of Mary. Where are you living at the moment?
Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: trish18 on Monday 14 September 20 16:45 BST (UK)
Hi Paul,

I don’t have any photographs of Mary but would love to see the one you have.

The only things I have relating to Mary are the newspaper reports of her death and the inquest.

I do have photographs of her parents and some of her brothers if you are interested in them and have done quite a lot of research on the family history.

My Grandfather left South Wales in 1939 and moved to North Wales.

Regards

Trish







Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: Stogang on Monday 14 September 20 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi Trish, thanks, all info greatly received. If you can get your email address to me I will send you the photo. Paul
Title: Re: Murder of Mary Griffiths, Plantation Street
Post by: Stogang on Monday 14 September 20 17:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Sara, thanks for the add, and your help. Paul