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Title: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: catgog on Tuesday 03 August 10 15:31 BST (UK)
I am trying to trace relatives of the dramatist Beriah Gwynfe Evans ( 1848-1927) born on 12 feb in Nant y Glo. He married Anne Thomas in 1871 and they had three children, one of which was Nellie Myfanwy; married to Timothy Lewis. Does anyone know who were his other children or who were Nellie Myfanwy's Children?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 03 August 10 15:48 BST (UK)
Hi

On the 1901 census RG13/5272/21/3 in Llanbeblig, Caernarfonshire they have~

Ann, 23 b. Llanfadog
Nellie Myfanwy, 15, b. Llanfadog
Ivan Myrion/Meirion, 11, b. Cardiff

Also with them is  probably another daughter, Elizabeth Mary (Thomas) , 26, b. Llanfadog., married to a Henry Owen Thomas, 28, b. Caernarfon.  Their daughter - H or K Olwen Thomas , 2 months, b. Llandudno


Gadget
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: catgog on Tuesday 03 August 10 16:00 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget.

So Ann, Nellie, Ivan and Elisabeth would have been Beriah's children and H/K Olwen Thomas a Grandaughter?

Catgog
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 03 August 10 16:24 BST (UK)
It''s a strange entry - I had  a phone call so gave the brief details. Here is the full entry

Llanbeblig
RG13/5272/21/3

Beriah G Evans, 53, editor newspaper, b. Brynmawr, Mon
Ann Evans,w, 49, b. llanfadog, Caer
Ann Evans, d, 23. b. -do-
Nellie Myfanwy Evans, d, 15, b. -do-
Ivan Myrion Evans, s, 11, b. Cardiff, Glam
Henry Owen Thomas, son in law, 28, electrician, b. Caernarfon
Elizth Mary Thomas, wife, 26, b. Llanfadog, Caer
H or K Olwen Thomas, daughter, 2 months, b. Llandudno, Caer

I'll check to see if there's a marriage for Henry and Elizabeth.

Gadget
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 03 August 10 16:27 BST (UK)
Marriage June q, 1900, Caernarvon vol 11b p 798

Henry Owen Thomas and Elizabeth Mary Evans are on the same page

 :)

Gadget
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: catgog on Tuesday 03 August 10 16:33 BST (UK)
That would be brilliant thank you!
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: catgog on Tuesday 03 August 10 16:35 BST (UK)
 I will try to find out more about Elizabeth and Henry.

Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 03 August 10 16:45 BST (UK)
I see that Nellie and Timothy Lewis married Caernarvon Sept q, 1911 vol 11b p 660.

If you go to Freebmd, you'll be able to search for possible children as Mother's maiden name was included from Sept 1911 - it might list a fair number but it does narrow things down:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Enter Lewis as surname and Evans as mother's name


Gadget

(sorry but my connection is very slow and iffy here and I've got a 9 year old machine and it's driving me mad - on a wet holiday  ::) )
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: catgog on Wednesday 04 August 10 09:45 BST (UK)
Thank you, will do that today. I know that Nellie and Timothy had one son and one daughter so i'll try to discover their names.

Catgog
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: MairTee on Monday 23 August 10 22:14 BST (UK)
BGE was my great grand-father.  His daughter, Elizabeth Mary, was my grand-mother.
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: catgog on Wednesday 25 August 10 13:58 BST (UK)
Hello Mair Tee!

You may have already made the connection, but I think I have already been in contact with you. I am researching into Beriah's Plays and their copyrights. Gadget was kind enough to help me discover who were Beriah's children! I'm sure you find this site very useful for discovering more about your family history!

Catgog
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: Uskite on Monday 04 April 16 13:10 BST (UK)
I have only just come across this site. I wonder whether you still want information about Nellie Myfanwy Evans , daughter of Beriah? I am Nellie's granddaughter and would be happy to tell you what I know. She has 5 grand children and we are all still alive (at the moment!).
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: MairTee on Thursday 07 April 16 19:42 BST (UK)
Hello Uskite.  It's possible we may have been in touch before now regarding our great grandfather, Beriah Evans.  This earlier request (2010) via Rootschat was linked to one I had at the time from someone at a Welsh University wanting to include some of Beriah's writings in a syllabus.

I've been researching family history for around 15 years.  My father (Emrys Beriah Thomas) died in 1997 after his 3 siblings, so that I have no direct source of information from the family except a few papers and photos.  I am unsure the details I have about his aunt Nellie's side - children and grandchildren - are accurate but perhaps you can help.

If you are also researching family history, I'd be happy to let you have any information I've collected.  We are of course second cousins.  My 2 sisters are still alive.

In 2010 another second cousin - granddaughter of (Ivan) Myrddin Evans, the youngest of Beriah's children - contacted me but we were both too busy at the time to continue to keep in touch!

Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: Uskite on Friday 08 April 16 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi Mair!
thank you for getting back to me so quickly - isn't modern technology wonderful!
are you on Ancestry (I expect so)? if so, you should be able to see my tree on that. If not, let me know what info you would like.
My husband is currently preparing a talk for the National Eisteddfod (which, I am sure you know is in Abergavenny this year) on Beriah and his novel 'Dafydd Dafis'. We are going to Nat Lib in Aberystwyth  at the end of the month to try to consult some family papers. I would really like some photos of Nellie (and Timothy) when they were younger as I don't have any. Sadly my mother dies more than 50 years ago and , of course, I didn't take any interest in family when I was younger. Looking forward to hearing from you again. Carys
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: MairTee on Saturday 30 September 17 09:17 BST (UK)
Hi Uskite!

I'm so sorry I didn't respond to your post of April 17 about your husband's talk on Beriah but have only just come across it while browsing this site for the first time in months.  Possibly I overlooked the usual message alert due to several health problems in 2016 and too many other issues.  Anyway, despite my rudeness in not replying, I hope you found some useful material at the NLW and the talk went well.  I have a large photo of Beriah and Anne with their 8 children, taken possibly in the mid to late 1890s.  And another, even larger, taken outside the family home, Pen-y-Bryn, on the occasion of Bronwen's (Nellie's sister's) wedding in Dec 1910.  Nellie (aged about 25) was one of 2 bridesmaids - in a wonderful hat and with a huge bouquet!  That's the only photo I have which includes Timothy.  If you'd like them, I'd be very happy to send you a copy of both.

I'm also hoping to resurrect my family history searching again this winter so may want to ask you for missing details!
Title: Re: Beriah Gwynfe Evans
Post by: diplodicus on Thursday 29 March 18 05:47 BST (UK)
Just a thought...

Gwynfe is a hamlet in Carmarthenshire between Brynamman and LLangadog. Maybe the origin of his middle name?

Some of actress Sian Phillips' ancestors come from there.