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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: JeanetteS on Wednesday 18 August 10 13:25 BST (UK)
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Hello, I am looking for the parents of Terence and Catherine. The info I have on the is:
Terence b.1824 d.1910
Catherine b.1824 d.17 Jan 1910
lived in Tullaghboy, Co Clare
children Catherine 1849-1938, Francis 1851, Eileen 1853, Maria 1856-1879, Michael 1859, Timothy 1861, James 1864, Margaret 1867-1937, Terence 1870-1940
Any info appreciated but particularly interested in going back further generations
Terence and Catherine are great great grandparents of my husband
Many thanks
Jeanette
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Hello JeanetteS,
Welcome to Rootschat.
I have Haren ancestors from Tullaghaboy. I visited there last month and viewed remains of 2 Haren homes there. I have similar first names to the ones you posted. Did Terence born 1870-1940 go to New York?
Regards,
DoireM
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Hello
Well, according to some notes I have from another family member Terence Jnr became a priest - known as Fr.Matthew Haren O.F.H. (I don't know what the initials stand for). I don't know how accurate this info is though because it was passed on to us.
However there must be a connection somewhere as from what I can work out Tullaghboy was not a huge place!
regards
Jeanette
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A relative sent me a copy of our Haren tree which hailed from Tullaghaboy. Both Haren houses were a stone throw from one another, it is a very small holding.
Yes, I believe there is a connection with our Haren's of Tullaghaboy.
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Terrence and Catherine are shown in the 1901 Clare Census.
Francis Harhen married Anne King about 1879. They had the following children:
Thomas born about 1881
Patrick - Baptized on February 25, 1882. Godmother Margaret Meany
Mary Anne born about 1883
Daniel - Baptized on May 2, 1884. Godmother Bridget Murphy
Catherine - Baptized on July 26, 1886. Godmother Mrs. Murphy
Michael born about 1888
Anne - Baptized on April 8, 1891.
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It is likely that Terence Haran's father was also Terence Haran. In the 1855 Griffith's Valuation, it lists Terence Haran and Terence Haran, Jr. together renting a large farm of 207 acres, no roods and 33 perches of land containing a house and offices (barns), from a land agent named Nicholas Westby. It would be likely that this is the same home Terrence Jr, was residing in at the time of the 1901 census.
There were five parcels of land in the townland of Tullaghaboy in 1855 totaling just over 646 acres of land, so the two Terences possessed almost one third of the total land in the townland.
John
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Wow thanks John!
I have some detail on the family which ties in nicely with your details. I only had details of two children for Francis and Anna King, Dan 1884 and Michael 1889, so this is very useful thanks.
regards
Jeanette
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Jeanette,
A bit more. The two Terrances (Jr. and Sr.) were also renting land in the neighboring townland of Slievealoughaun. Terance Sr, is renting a small parcel of more than two acres of land from Thomas Ready. There are no structures onthe land.
Terance Jr., is renting 36 acres, three roods and 35 perches of land with two houses and an office, from the Trustees of Lady DuBoyne. He in turn is renting out one of the homes to Mr. Patrick Hogan.
There is another family living in the townland named O'Donnell. At the time of the 1901 census for Slievealoughaun, there is a family of John Haran and Catherine O'Donnell, who were married in Kilmaley Church on February 6, 1869. There are nine children listed in the census, but Catherine hasd already passed on. The youngest child was two years of age, so she must have died in 1899 or 1900. I do have some Baptism records for these children if this information means anything to you.
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Could either of your Terence Harans be the Terence J. Haran who was father of Timotheus John Haran (b. Abt 1829/31) who married Bedelia Mary Kelly in Kilrush on 21 Jan 1864? I have lots of information on Timotheus if you are interested.
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Sorry, my Terence Haren born to John Haren and Hannah Murphy was baptised in Kilmaley in February, 1865. That is as far back as I can get for my Haren's of Tullaghaboy.
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If you don't mind I am interested to know about Timotheus Haren. The name Timothy runs in my Haren line. Even though I have grounded to a halt for now it may be an opening!
Thank you.
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The Royal College of Physicians of Ireland has a small collection of papers donated by members of Timotheous Haran's family in Jun 2010, relating to the medical training of Timotheous Haran. See
http://rcpilibrary.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-acquisition-timotheous-haran-papers.html
(there is even a photograph - the woman in the photograph is said to be his wife (d.1871) but I suspect that it may be his daughter Constance Agnes (1867-1937)).
His obituary was in Br Med J. 1904 April 16; 1(2259): 926
(see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2353720/ ). As this was published 107 years ago and is in the public domain, I presume that it is out of copyright and that I am free to repost it here:
INSPECTOR-GENERAL TIMOTHEUS JOHN HARAN, whose death
occurred at the age of 74 in Kensington on April 10th had a
distinguished career in the Royal Navy, which he entered in
the year 1850, after receiving the diploma of the Royal College
of Surgeons of Ireland in 1849. A year after entering the
service he went, as assistant-surgeon of the Harlequin, in
medical charge of the boats which attacked Lagos, and was
mentioned in dispatches. Subsequently he took part in a
series of operations for the suppression of the slave
trade on the West Coast of Africa. During the
Crimean war he was surgeon of the Viper, a vessel
which played an active part in the Black Sea, being
repeatedly in action. Inspector-General Haran was present
at the battle of Eupatoria, at the capture of Kertch, in the
expedition in the Sea of Azoff, the night attacks on the
defences of Sebastopol, and at the capture of Kinburn. He
received the Turkish medal and Crimean medal with clasps
for Azoff and Sebastopol. In 1858 he was promoted a staff
surgeon, and four years later accompanied Commodore
Wilmot on a mission to the King of Dahomey, an enterprise
at that time considered to be one of considerable peril. He
also received the Gilbert Blane Gold Medal, and finally
reached the rank of Inspector-General of Hospitals and
Fleets, and retired after two years' service in that rank in
1888. He was a member of the British Medical Association
and was Honorary Surgeon to the King.
Timotheus J. Haran was uncle of James Haran J.P. who was Manager of the National Bank, Limerick.
James's death received extensive coverage in the Limerick Chronicle:
5 Sep 1893 at http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/Media,5316,en.pdf
7 Sep 1893 at http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/Media,5317,en.pdf
9 Sep 1893 at http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/haran,%20james%20fr.pdf
14 Sep 1893 at http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/haran%20testimonial%20fund.pdf
James's daughter became Lady Nash, wife of Sir Vincent Nash, and grandmother of Pyers O'Conor-Nash, heir to the O'Conor Don estates.
James Haran's marriage (3 Mar 1867) can be found at
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1584964&form=advanced-records
and shows that his father was Daniel. I think that this must be the Daniel Haran listed in Ballymackea More in the parish of Kilmurry in Griffith's Valuation.
I am not so certain that the Terence Haran who was father of Timotheus and Daniel was the same person as the Terence sr. found in Tullaghaboy in Griffith.
I hope this helps someone - my connection is remote - Timotheus's wife's first cousin married my greatgreatgrandfather's first cousin!
\pw
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Many thanks for posting this article it is much appreciated.
DoireM
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Most interesting as i am descended from Agnes Nash ( nee Haran) who married Vincent Nash (later Sir Vincent Nash of Shannon View House Castletroy , Co. Limerick . Vincent died in 1941 and Agnes in 1966.
They had eight children , James-Haran Nash ( Lt. Irish Guards killed in action in Arras in March 1918, Harold died 1986, and Richard Rupert died 1980. They also had five daughters , Mabel, Edith, Laura, Estelle , Laura , Florence. Florence is the only sibling alive and recently celebrated her hundredth birthday.
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I believe that there was a sixth Nash-Haran daughter whom you don't mention - Agnes Mary Nash, b. 26 Nov 1907, birth announced in Weekly Irish Times 7 Dec 1907 p.24, died before the end of 1907.
I have sent you my e-mail address in a private message and would be glad to share further information if you are interested.
Paddy
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I just came across the receipt dated 26 May 1955 for two pounds ten shillings admission fee for a headstone over the grave of my greatgrandparents in Mount St. Lawrence Cemetery, Limerick. It is signed `Vincent H. Nash, Sec. and Registrar'. Was the cemetery registrar related to Sir Vincent, or is this just a strange coincidence?
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A small world indeed . Yes that would be Sir Vincent's second son who i referred to as "Harold" in my previous post.
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RJPOV0r2Ij4/TCHe9LbbHLI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/roEa1puYTQI/s1600/Haran.jpg
That man,Timotheus J. Haran, looks like my father when my father was young. He has the same mouth and jaw.