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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: George4 on Saturday 28 August 10 09:56 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Could anyone please help me with a request to photograph a headstone in the grave yard at St Werburgh's Church in Hanbury Staffordshire.
My GGG Grandmother Hannah Phillips wife of John Phillips, died in 09.04.1865 [aged 57], and is buried at grave site B54 with her daughter Catherine Phillips died 12.03.1858 [aged 11].
John Phillips died between March-June 1890 and it would be interesting to establish, if he had also been buried with Hannah.
I know that it is a big ask, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
George
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George,
I note that you have not yet had a reply to your post.
Google ' Staffordshire Memorial Inscriptions ' acceaa Hanbury and you will see that John does not appear on the Hannah Phillip's headstone .
HTH.
pc99
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Hi George
When the weather gets a bit warmer I will go back and take the photo you requested. I did not see John's name mentioned on the headstone, but I will have a closer look next time. Nearly all the stones have been removed and placed around the churyard wall
Regards
Alf
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Hi PC99,
Thank you for your help, as it is appreciated.
I found on http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/STS/Hanbury/MIs.html an entry B54 Hannah, w/o John PHILLIPS, Of Hanbury Woodend, 9 April 1865, 57 and Catherine, d, 12 March 1858, 11.
These people are of the correct lineage, as they did have a daughter Catherine that died in 1858.
Kind regards
George
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Hi Alf,
Thank you ever so much for very kindly offering to photograph Hannah Phillips wife of John Phillips headstone.
It is the kindness of others that encourages us all to strive further.
Thanks again Alf.
Kind regards
George
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George,
Here is a general view of Hanbury churchyard to be going on with
until someone is able to take a picture of the headstone you require.
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Hi Alyson,
Thank you for sending me a photograph of St Werburgh's Churchyard in Hanbury, as that is absolutely brilliant.
Kindest regards
George
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[Hello, i saw your request for a photo of Hannah Philip's grave at ST. WERBURGHS Church Hanbury.I don't have a photo.
I have visited this grave as Hannah and John Philips are also my ggg grandparents.
John is on the 1881 census aged 81 living at Hanbury Woodend
with his daughter Mary,son in law Edward Allen,4 daughters and 3 sons plus sister in law Ellen Allen.
I beleive John Philips died in 1889.
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Hi George & Yozzer
John Phillips is also my GGG grandfather. I have been researching the family tree and came across your posts. I'll get a photo for you when I can visit the area, not sure when as I'm the other end of England. It looks as if you are in Aus or NZ (from the flag). I'd be glad to share any family info I've got with you both. I found that he is listed in the '1839 Tithe Map & Apportionment of Hanbury' on the website http://www.genuki.org.uk/ - very interesting to see where they lived!
TBC....best wishes,
Pete2
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Hi George4 & Yozzer
The 3 of us share a common line in GGG grandparents. I've done a lot of research recently and uncovered loads of facts on all of the children of John & Hannah Phillips. I've also have had some fantastic help form 2 experienced members of this site. So if you need any info I'd be happy to share with you and vice versa.
I found that John died in June 1890, aged 90, he spent the last few years living with Mary Ann Allen (his daughter) and Edward Allen. It looks like Hannah's maiden name was Pountain and they were married 3.9.1827.
Fascinating stuff. I will make that trip up to Hanbury one day and get some photos!
Best ancestral wishes to you both
Pete2 :)
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Assuming it's not totally "hissing" down on Saturday, I'll try and make the trip to Hanbury and find the headstone AND take some photographs. It's only about 25 miles from where I live in Tamworth.
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Hi BunbleB
That is very generous of you! :) Thank you!
I'll PM George4 & Yozzer as they haven't posted on this thread since 2011/2012.
My first post was a week ago - very new to this game!
Thanks again
Pete2
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Mission accomplished ;D ;D If you send me your e-mail address, via PM, I'll send full-sized copies of the headstone and its location within the churchyard. For those who need to know, the headstone is propped against the wall, in the extended burial ground, just under the tree, with two large tombstones (one belonging to a past vicar of St Werburgh) within the original churchyard on the other side of the wall.
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Let's see if these upload
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For your further interest, the parish registers for Hanbury are available on FindMyPast.
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Hi BumbleB
That is fantastic!! :) Thank you so much. What can I say, your generosity to travel that far and get such brilliant, clear photos is greatly appreciated. I haven't seen a post from George4, I PM'd him but haven't heard back.
To see this headstone is quite humbling, mother & daughter buried together. She was only 11.
I hope to make the 'pilgrimage' from Kent to Hanbury area one day and perhaps I could buy you lunch to say thank you!
Cheers BumbleB ;D
Pete2
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Many thanks for your kind words, Pete. :-[ I just like to help people, AND I'm nosey :o I've never been to Hanbury before, so took the opportunity. I have to admit though, that I was 3/4 of the way there, when I realised that I had forgotten the camera ::) So turned round, came home, picked it up and returned! It's a lovely little village, and was worth the journey.
Enjoy :D
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Nice photos Bumble. :D
Looks as if it was even sunny! ( you know what I think of your weather!!)
I like the way the grave stones are within view of the church.
Sounds like you had a nice day out.
Lots of lunches coming you way! ;D
goldie
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Thanks goldie. Yes, the weather is being kind at the moment - I hope that hasn't frightened it ;D
It was a nice day out, and the headstone made a change from photographing wills :-X :-X :-*
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ho ho ho !! ;D
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Hi Pete2,
Thank you for sending a PM, as I honestly would not have seen your post.
It's good to know that there are other people with a common interest into researching the Phillips family :)
It would be really interesting to know, if you bear the Phillips family surname, or related through marriage.
[1] John Phillips is definitely my GGG Grandfather, as was born 16.02.1800 in Hanbury, Staffordshire and interestingly, appears to have no known father. It might be a simple example of the father not attending the actual christening, or was not married at the time, and that could be reason for the father's name not to be on parish register ?
[2] John married Hannah Poutain 03.09.1827 in Hanbury Staffordshire [Possibly Parish Church].
[3] From the 1841 UK Census, they already had the following issue of children; Sarah [14],
Thomas [11], Joseph [7], Mary [4] and Elizabeth [2].
[4] From the 1851 UK Census, Joseph [now 17], Mary [now 14], Elizabeth [now 12] with additional
children since 1841, George [8], John [6], Catherine [4] and another Thomas [1]. Sarah would
be aged 24 and possibly has married and moved on. Sadly it appears that Thomas might have
passed away between 1841 to 1851, and that is possibly why, they had another son named
Thomas.
I am the direct descendant from Joseph Phillips, who christening was on 08.09.1833 in Hanbury, Staffordshire. He later married Anne White in 1856, and they later had 9 boys and 3 girls.
One of their 9 sons, George, does not appear on the UK Census in 1881, as it is possible that he left for Sydney, New South Wales Australia allegedly with his 3 paternal Uncles. Later he appears upon a Marriage certificate dated 1888, married to Sarah Turner in Pyrmont, Sydney NSW, and then subsequently to Western Australia in [1894 ?] until his passing in 1933.
I do have a plethora of other information, that might be able to further assist you in your research, and I am willing to assist.
Thanks to Alf Beard in 2010, he very kindly sent photograph's Hannah's headstone. Thanks also to BumbleB for posting them, and for the effort afforded :)
It is through the kindness of others, that makes us strive harder.
Not sure what happened to Yozzer, as we got lost in the ether.
If you could please Pete2, I do need any information that you could share about John and Hannah, as you mentioned it in one of your posts.
Kind regards
George4
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Hi George
Nice to get your reply! Yes I am also a direct descendent of John & Hannah Phillips through their son John. I've got the same info as you, back to Mary Phillips, thanks to some of the very helpful 'RootsChat' folks!! So not sure if any of the info (so far) going back will be new to you.
Going forward, I've got info on 3 of the children - Mary, Joseph & John (my line). Interesting that Joseph was your line. Am putting a tree together with everything I've got so far up to today. I've only been doing this for 3 weeks, so will forward you stuff as I find out and collate. Happy to send you all my side of the family if you don't already have it.
Best 'Phillips' family greetings to you down under!!
Pete :)
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I didn't see a response to your post asking for a photo of the gravestone of Hannah Phillips. However, one of my husband's golfing buddies is currently on holiday in England so I asked him to get the photo just in case you haven't got it. He has done so and uploaded it to https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=2515080&GRid=182889859&
Regards, Kathy
(No, we're not related.)
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Hi Kathy,
Thank yo so much for your effort! Much appreciated, especially as it looks like you're are not in England. If you scroll back through these posts you'll see that BumbleB got some photos of the gravestone and church. People are very helpful on this site! But I'll look at the photos your friend took too.
All the best with your searches. I'm very new to this but have found out a lot and found cousins in Australia which is fantastic.
Very interesting and rewarding!
Regards Pete2 :)