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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: lindynz on Sunday 29 August 10 09:18 BST (UK)
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I am looking for information about George Scott, b. 1801 in Kingston Upon Hull who married Mary Francis (b. 1805, Hull) in 1823. They came to New Zealand with 4 of their children in 1840, I think they were in Wellington first, then went to Lyttelton where they remained, he died in 1875, she died in 1877. One of their children, Samuel Francis Scott, b.1830, was my ggg grandfather- he was married to Ann Cryer. I am looking particularly for information about George Scott- who were his parents and family? Mary's parents were Samuel Francis, born approx 1779, and Mary Barker born approx 1783.
I don't know any more than this, regarding their life in Yorkshire, so I would be grateful for any information. Also if anyone knows anything about their life in N.Z. I would like more detail. George was listed as a carpenter when he arrived, and I have seen a George Scott listed as a publican in Lyttelton, but I am not sure if that is him.
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I can't find anything for 1801.
The only baptism I can find for a George Scott Kingston upon Hull is
George Scott male birth 7 Mar 1794 , christening 18 Mar 1794 @ Fish Street Independant .
Parents Alexander Scott & Sarah.
Jane
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It's hard to know if that would be the right person. Most references I have seen to him say 1801, but of course often these things can be wrong! The only clue I have about his birth is "Myton", Hull, but I don't know what or where that is.
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Myton was a parliamentary ward in Hull.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Hull/index.html
you may also find this useful
http://www.dixon115.freeserve.co.uk/boundaries.htm
Jane
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Could this be him, taken from the East Riding Family History Society's Baptisms Booklet, Holy Trinity 1792-1812.
20th March 1799, George & William sons of George Scott. no further details.
Gogogadgetlegs
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Sorry to have to put a spanner in the works but there is also a baptism on 11 October 1803 same place George son of Jonothan & Phoebe Scott, again no further details.
gogogadgetlegs
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It's quite frustrating looking for a name like George Scott! I suspect that the people who have tried to research him previously have hit the same brick wall as I have. The records for his birth only say "1801 Kingston upon Hull" which isn't very clear- possibly it just means the family lived there rather than him being born there. So I guess he could have been born anywhere! :-\
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Dear Lindynz,
Myton is Holy Trinity, Hull, are you saying that 1801 is his birth in Kingston upon Hull, or about the time of his birth, or is this a term other people researching this person are using as "I do not know the exact place but it is Hull"
There are no other entries in Hull for 1801 for a George Scott so my guess would have to be that it must be one or the other of these baptisms as there are no entries for surname Scott, George in Hull Sculcoates Parish Records.
Was Samue lFrancis Scott born in Hull, i suspect he was ot as there are no entries in 1830 for this person in Myton or Sculcoates,
regards,
gogogadgetlegs
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Well I always thought that 1801 was his birth year because none of the references to him said there was any uncertainty, but since no birth record has shown up for 1801 I have to wonder. I'm starting to think that nobody has actually verified it. Which would make things a whole lot harder!
And to make things a whole lot worse, I just had a look on I.G.I., there are numerous references to the same Samuel Francis Scott, George's son (by the way, Samuel also had a son called Samuel Francis, born in New Zealand 1856), and there are three different birth years given for him- 1826, 1831, or 1837. A family tree I was given says 1830. The 1837 one says Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, the others just say Kingston Upon Hull. They all refer to Samuel's wife in NZ, Ann Cryer so they are all the same person.
Wow, I think this one might have to go in the too hard basket. :(
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Hi Lindy, it seems we are related as Samuel Francis Scott junior is my Grandfather. Have you found more information on this line? His son Norman did family research and has Georges Father as Lilley Scott a Tailor from Hull Yorkshire.
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Hi once again,
Done another search and found a George Scott bapt Holy Trinity 20 March 1799 with a father George. getting closer. no profession given.
Did a seqarch for Lilley Scott in Yorkshire then England but found no entries at all.
Phil gogogadgetlegs
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I have three chidren to Lilley Scott and his wife Anne (Peart) all Hull, York England FHL Film christened at Holy Trinity, Hull from
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 but none of them are for George.Lilley Scott and Ann Peart married 15 Feb 1791, Hull York England FHL Film 990828
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Just sent you a private message Lindy.
gogogadgetlegs
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Just found out why you may not be able to find baptism for George Scott 1801, because it was probably in the Parish of St Mary Hull, and baptism have only been transcribed to 1798 in this Parish on Find my Past. He was possibly the son of Lilley/Lilly Scott, who would have had eight children in total.
He was baptised Holy Trinity, Hull 12 Jan 1767 son of Thomas Scott, Tailor. Married possibly twice 11 Mar 1788 Elizabeth Coldwell and 15 Feb 1791 Ann Peart as posted by HJHolland, having said that he was not a widower when he married Ann, but then again not all put this down.
Best
Phil
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I double checked the baptism of Lilley that you mentioned and the record I found has Lilley as a female. Thats the trouble with have Lilley as a first name.
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Hi, Here we go,
Thomas Scott married Mary Richards 19/Apr 1703 Sr Mary, Hull, taken from Parish Record.
Children,
Eliza, 15 Mar 1704/05, Mary, 21 Mar 1705/06, Christopher 29 May 1707, John 07/ Jan 1707/08, Thomas 11 dec 1708, Mary 04 Apr 1711, Richard, 14 Oct 1713, Anne daur of Thos, Victualler, Joseph 14 Mar 1715/16 & Dinah 07 May 1720, all Holy Trinity Hull. some down as Mr Thomas Scott.
Will send next lot in new message.
Phil,
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Next Family,
Thomas Scott and unknown,
Fanny, 24 Aug 1761, Martin, 27 Dec 1762, Nelly 07 Nov 1764, Lilley 12 Nov 1766 son of Thomas Scott (Tailor) Margaret 08 Jun 1774, Thomas 20 Jun 1785, with note, Should be John, see Register.
Lilley Scott marr Ann Peart 15 Feb 1791 St Mary's Hull she was bapt 25 Mar 1772 Father Edward.
children,
Louisa 12 Nov 1809. Edward 01 Sep 1806, Mary Ann 02 Aug 1804, Henry 10 Oct 1798, Matilda 30 Jun 1796, Elizabeth 15 May 1794, William Livingstone (down as Lillingstone) 21 Jan 1792 St Mary's, Hull, and George c1801 still to be transcribed.
Just let meknow if i have missed any and i will look them up,
Phil
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Hi Phil
Thank you for all your help, I will work on this info for now and if I find anything I will let you know
Cheers Heather
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what age does it say on george scotts death cert(1875)as on the passenger list for the Bolton it says he was 34 which would make his birth abt 1805. Thanks lnr
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Just chipping in on this; Lilley Scott was my 5 * great grandfather, and I'm investigating this (and other branches in Hull) at the moment
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a long shot .. but I have a Mary Scott baptised at Cottingham (north of Hull) her father Wm Scott. She married Wm Stephenson at Cottingham in 1838 and after 5 children came to Canada in 1854
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When my ggg Grandmother died at Strathroy Ontario Canada in 1897 .. her obit in the Strathroy newspaper stated .... "Mrs Stephenson was born at Cottingham Yorkshire and was of a family of 16. Of her brothers and sisters only 2 survive .. Edward Scott, Jeweller of Hull England and Richard at Cottingham the old home."
Mary Scott was born in 1819 to parents William Scott of South Cave and Mary Twidle of Ellerker
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Hi Ken,
Sent you an email just now with emai address on it,
Best, Phil