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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: ldavies on Monday 30 August 10 19:51 BST (UK)
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Im trying to find David Walters b. 1860 ish in Camarthanshire on an 1871 census.
I think I have found David age 23 and a John Walters (possibly his brother?) age 20 on the 1881 census boarding in Gilfach Coch (Goch), Llantrisant with a Jones family.
I need to find this out in order to trace his parents and my family tree further
Lyndsey
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Hi
You say you are trying to go back ... where did you start? who did David Walters marry? and did he have children? have you found him on a later census?
more info may help us find him :)
cheers cardiff ???
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Hi Cardiff, thanks for the reply.
I started with my grandparents, and David would be my g.g.grandfather. He married a Cecilia (Cicilia) Davies, and had 9 children. I have defo found him on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census...
1891..
10pritchards Row, Gilfach Goch, Glamorgan
David Walters head m 33 coal miner Llandyfeilog Carmarthan Welsh spoken
Cecelia wife 29 Neath Glam welsh spoken
David J son 7 Llantrisant Glam
Ceceila M daughter 5 Llantrisant Glam
Elizabeth A daughter 4 Ystradyfodwg glam
Sarah J daughter 2 Llantrisant Glam
Ellenor daughter 1 llantrisant Glam
Richard J Vowles Boarder U 20 Coal Miner Butcombe England English spoken
Hernest Vowles Boarder U 19 coal miner Butcombe England English spoken
(all of the children who were old enough to speak spoke both Welsh & English)
RG12 4427 104 9
1901
David Walters Head M 42 coal miner hewer Llandfeilog Carmarthan
Ciclia wife 40 nNeath Glam
David I son 17 coal miner
Ciclia daughter 15
Elizabeth daughter 13
Sarah J daughter 12
Ellinor daughter 10
EVAN son 8
Rachel daughter 6
Rose daughter 4
Ezra son 1 mth
children all b Gilfach Goch Glam
RG13 5008 67 42
1911
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I just wanted to find him on the 1871 census so i could see who his parents and siblings are :-)
Lyndsey :)
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+Hi
Looking at the info you have given me of the census allof them state that David was born Llandyfeilog
Looked at births there wher 3
david Walters dec 1860 carmarthen 11a page 576
carmarthen sept 1859 11a609
carmarthen 58 11a 546
good poss is dec 1859
1861 census RG09 4136/31/14
Llandefeilog village
Evan Walters b 1826 lab b Llandefeilog
Selina b 1837
Evan 1856
david 1859
all born village
there was 5 david walters on this census aged 5yrs -2yrs only one born in this village
1871 Rg10 5493/34/5
Llandefeilog
Selina b 1837 out door servant widow
david 1859
John 1862
Evan 1865
and your 1881 census does match David and John
Their mum selina and brother evan is still in the same place RG11 5394/88/10
hope this is of some help
cheers cardiff :)
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Shed's alot of light, thank you! :)
I know David then had a son Evan (my g. Grandfather) so maybe that makes it more likely?
Lyndsey :-)
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Hi
If you have Davids marriage certificate that woulfd confirm his fathers name and then you could appy for birth certificate its only when you have certificates that you have proof.
good luck in searching out the rest.
cheers cardiff ;)
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Hi Idavies,
Have you found some more information on your David Walters?
I'm researching Walters of Llandyfaelog, Llangendeirne, & Kidwelly Aberdare and USA.
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Hi Cynfelin
Have not found out anything else about him unfortunately, would love to find out more about him and his family though.
I have many Walters relatives in the Rhondda area and hopefully some in the Llandyfaelog area too. I'd love to help you further your research.
Lyndsey :)
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Hello again Cynfellin,
have recently found out a lot of info about David Walters and even more about his parents. Would still love to help you.
Lyndsey
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I would be interested in finding out what information you hold on David Waters and the time span.
Where was your David Walters born and who were his parents etc..
Hope you are willing to share information
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I have sent you a personal message with all the info :)
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Hi,
I found this forum with your posting regarding David Walters and all his children. We have just completed our family tree and found that David Walters born in 1858 Carmarthenshire is my great great grandfather. He was a coal miner and he was married to Cecilia Walters born in 1859. They had 10 children:
-David J Walters
-Elizabeth A
-Sarah
-Ellener
-Evan
-Rachel
-Rose-
-Ezra
-Elsie
-Cecilia, who was my great grandmother and who I just about remember.
I understand that you are a descendant of Evan and we therefore must be related. Do you have any photographs of Cecilia, David or Evan? I have found David on the 1891 census living at 10 Pritchard Row in Pontypridd, Wales.
Regards,
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Hi,
Oh right were related :) David would be my great great grandfather too..
Yeah all checks out with my info although I believed Cecilia (Mother) was born in 1861. His parents would have been Evan Walters and Selina Lloyd. Have you gone that far back?
Evan would be my great grandfather. Unfortunatly i don't have photos of anyone :( wish i did though. Evan had died even before my mother was born so the family history after my grandfather is from research.
You don't have any photos either i'm guessing then?
Lyndsey :)
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Hello Lyndsey,
That's great news. So do you still live in Wales. Cecilia, Evan Junior's sister came from Gilfach Goch and moved to Kent in 1918.
.On the family tree we have so far, we couldn't find David senior's parents. So you're saying that David who
married Cecilia, his parents are called Evan Walters and Selina Lloyd?
On our family tree Davids wife cecilia was born a Walters too. Her mum was also called Cecilia (Williams) and her dad was John Walters and they had 4 children. Do you know if John and David were related? We believe that John and David were cousins.
It also works out that we're third cousins.
Thanks again,
Julie :)
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Hi Julie,
Yeah I live in Wales. I actually live in Gilfach Goch :) Ooh right, Kent is a bit far to move isn't it?
Yeah David seniors parents are Evan Walters and Selina Lloyd. I have even traced Selina's parents as well. Their names I believe are David Lloyd and Eleanor (unsure as to maiden name).
I hadn't found out too much about Cecilia senior, but found the name Davies..
Marriages Dec 1882
DAVIES Cecilia Bridgend 11a 860
Walters David Bridgend 11a 860
I have searched for Walters but drew a blank for marriages between a David Walters and Cecilia Walters.
Have you found a record of it then?
Or do you think that its possible she was born Walters and then married Davies then re-married to Walters? It's unlikely cos of her age thought....
First thing I've heard about Cecilia's mother but i know that David had a brother John who he came to Gilfach Goch with. I haven't found out anything else to do with Evan (Davids father) unfortunatly.
But that's interesting if its true..
Third cousins, nice to know :)
Thanks for replying and for the extra info
Lyndsey
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Hi Lindsey,
We have Cecilia Walters (married to David) as being a Walters by birth.We traced backwards and all the dates and addresses match.
My great grandmother,Cecilia (Evan's sister) lived at 221 High Street,Gilfach Goch when she was married and her mum and dad lived at 227 High Street. They moved from 10 Pritchard Row to High Street where they had the last 5 children; Evan,Rachel,Rose,Ezra and Elsie. Rachel was psychic,apparently, and Rose moved to Devon. My mum remembers the youngest,her aunt Elsie.
My great grandmother married a miner from Somerset and because there was no work,moved to Kent.
Do you know of any other family members still living in Gilfach, ie those of any of the 10 Walters children ?
I am really pleased to have found a relative of mine that I didn't know about as until I started to do our family tree,I didn't think I had any relatives left in Wales.
Hope to hear from you. Julie.
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Hi Julie,
Oh right, so she was a Walters then..
Thank you for all the info, this is the first time I've heard of most of it. Especially Rachel being a psychic!
That's odd, i actually live in High Street!
Yeah i know that David J Walters (son) must have stayed as my grandfather had cousins and as I have recently found out they come from his line. My mother is also friends with David J's grandson.
I too am glad to know i have family out there that i didn't know about.
I also have good news! I have recently come across some photo's on ancestry from someone's profile with the same family as us.
There are photo's of David (senior), Cecilia (senior), Ellenor, Evan, Rachel, Rose, Ezra and there are a 2 of Elsie.
Im guessing the person who's posted these pictures comes from Elsie's family line.
If you would like me to send them you could direct message me your email address!
Lyndsey :)
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Julie, these are the photos...
David, possibly cecilia and Elsie...
then Ellenor..
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Evan then Rachel..
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Hi Idavies,
Have you found some more information on your David Walters?
I'm researching Walters of Llandyfaelog, Llangendeirne, & Kidwelly Aberdare and USA.
Hello,
I also have some WALTERS from Llangendeirne and surrounding hamlets such as Crwbin and Bancffosfelen. Would u like to message me privately to exchange further information?
Thanks
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Hi, I'm researching the Walters Family From Llandyfaelog,John Walters Born 1814 married Mary Lewis in 1837 Kidwelly my gggg grandparents . Father of John, Walter Walters 1791 married Mary in 1806 lived Wern Fach Llandydfaeog 1841 cencus. Hoping for a match. Regards
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Hiya,
Thank you for your email.
The information you hold may well be part of my family but it does not quite match.
David Walters, farmer from Llandyfaelog b 5/2/1786 and married Mary Hugh on 10/8/1813 is my direct line.
Good luck with your searches.
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Hi Julie
My grandmother was Elsie Walters née Coombes. She had 2 Children Raymond George And Cecilia.
I am Raymond's son and visited Gilfach on many occasions as a child, and later as a teenager. There is an interesting post on Utube about children of a school in Gilfach and a picture of the fish and chip shop run by our relatives Phylis and ?.Who were both killed in a car crash. Rose moved to Plymouth in Devon. And another sister to Ramsgate in Kent. I met auntie Rachel and Davey as a child.
I know loads more but that's enough for now
Thanks David George Coombes
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Hi David. I've just seen your message. My great grandmother, Cecilia, was Elsie's sister. Cecilia moved to Ramsgate with her husband,Edgar and their 4 children: David (Dai), Idris, Cyril and my grandmother, Dilys. My mum remembers Aunt Elsie and her daughter Cecilia. I hope we can exchange family information. Look forward to hearing from you. Julie.
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Hi David and Julie. I am the original poster (however cannot sign back into that account so have made a new one) I have only just seen these replies. My great grandfather Evan (Elsie and Cecilia's brother) who had 7 children (Megan, Elsie, David, Brinley, Ieuan (my grandfather) Cyril and Shirley) all stayed in Gilfach - I still live here now! Me and my mother would love to hear any stories you both have! If you both would like any photographs of Gilfach let me know, I'm willing to take/send some :)
Lyndsey