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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Kylie B on Friday 03 September 10 04:04 BST (UK)
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Hi
I have a generation of children who were born to parents who emigrated from Scotland uner the HIES- and I am now trying to find their descendants.
I have these names, spouses and years from family members- now trying to confirm the marriages, and find children of the marriages if possible. I would be really grateful if anyone can help- dont have access to Vic BMD CD's at my local lib.
Harriette McGillivray married Herb Parker 1908 ? Geelong
Malcolm McGillivray married Lucy McLean- unknown date but Malcom died in 1944 aged 55
Janet mcGillivray married Like Goggin 1913 Shelford
Angus McGillivray married Irene G Dugdale circa 1942
Emma McGillivray married Matthew Goggin 1912
John McGillivray married Annie Laird 1916
Annie McGillivray married James Howard 1909
Neil McGillivray married Matilda Sanders 1908
Charles McGillivray married Emma Haywood 1912
Margaret McGillivray maried Sam Noy 1901
Mary McGillivray married Anderew Bourke 1902
William McGillivray married Mary Barnes 1913
Many many thanks to anyone who can fill in any gaps!!
Kylie B
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Malcolm married May Lucy McLean 1920 #2068
Annie
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Brilliant Annie- thank you very much.
She must have gone by her seond name as the family know her as Lucy.
I wonder if she and malcolm had any children- that is a relatively modern marriage date...does anyone know if we can search births that recent please??
Kylie B
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I can only access births to 1922
Annie
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Please enjoy, for starters -
1,Hart MCGILLIVRAY married Herbert Eccleston PARKER, Geelong,1908 (bdm reg no. 4009)
2,Malcolm MCGILLIVRAY married Lucy May MCLEAN in 1920 (#2068)
3,Janet MCGILLIVRAY married Luke GOGGIN in 1913 (#6920)
4,Angus MCGILLIVRAY married Irene Gladys DUGDAL, 1942 (#3428)
5,Emma MCGILLIVRAY married Mathew GOGGIN, Shelford in 1912 (#5788)
6,John MCGILLIVRAY married Annie Marion Ross LAIRD in 1916 (#2713)
7,Annie Plummer MCGILLIVRAY married James Patrick HOWARD, Victoria, 1909 (#5875)
8,Neil MCGILLIVRAY married Matilda SANDERS, Shelford in 1908 (#6360)
another possible earlier marriage for Neil is
Neil MCGILLIVRAY married Carol CRUMP, Mount Stope in 1903 (#5123)(possible red
herring?)
9,Charles MCGILLIVRAY married Emma HAYWOOD, Sethbridge (possibly Lethbridge?) 1912
#11555)
10, Margaret MCGILLIVRAY married Alexr NOY in Victoria in 1901 (#7448)
11, William Plummer MCGILLIVRAY married Mary Ann BARNES in 1913 (#2861)
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I agree with Alexr NOY ;)
Some Noy births
Eliz Margt 1903 #26811
Jas Alex 1902 #19620
Margt Laura 1909 #12187
Wm Hy 1905 #19566
all at L Bridge VIC
Annie
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That is just brilliant!!!!!!
Thank you so much!
And so Sam was short of Alexander...now I would not have worked that one out on my own!
Thanks again for all these marriages- looks like the family info was pretty close to spot on. Now to hunt down any children we can!
THANKYOU!
Kylie B
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A PARKER birth
Hy Jno 1909 Lal Lal #20527
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Births in Victoria
Father: William Plummer McGILLIVRAY
Mother: Mary Ann BARNES
All born Lethbridge
McGILLIVRAY
JEAN PLUMMER[/b] 1914 Reg#5215
ERIC ANGUS 1915 Reg#23006
MARGT MARY 1917 Reg#13551
WM JNO 1920 Reg#23449
Margaret May SMITH
died 1978 age 61 years Melbourne
Father: William Plummer McGillivray Mother: Mary Anne Barnes
Reg#24123
Couldn't see a marriage up to 1942
Raylen
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More Victorian Births
Father: Chas McGILLIVRAY Mother: Emma HAYWOOD
MCGILLIVRAY
ROBT WILLIAM 1914 Lethbridge Reg#14243
CHAS JNO 1916 Lethbridge Reg#4876
died 1940 age 23years Geelong Reg#15718
MALCOLM 1917 Lal Lal Reg#30222
Death of mother Emma
EMMA MCGILLIVRAY 1958 73 years Elsternwick
Father: Joseph Haywood Mother: Harriet Parker
Reg#12423
Raylen
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These are wonderful- thank you both so much!
I wonder if Harriette Parker, mother of Emma Haywood , was related to Herbert Parker, husband of Margaret McGillivray?
Charles John McGillivray died very young- only 23 years old. I wonder what happened to him?
Thank you both again- my tree is filling out magically!
Kylie B
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and some more births ;D
Father: Neil McGILLIVRAY Mother: Matilda SANDERS
DOROTHY EMMA 1910 Reg#20788
JOHN GORDON 1912 Reg#21857
died 1974 Colac? 62 years Reg#21031
IVY MATILDA 1913 Reg#32614
MARGARET NELLY 1916 Reg#22293
ANNIE IRENE 1918 Reg#20877
JESSIE ELIZABETH 1920 Reg#23450
All born Lethbridge
Raylen
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Raylen
THank you very much for these- I am seeing some very familiar names amongst these children. its interesting isnt it how some names follow through quite a few generations!
Kylie B
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I wonder if Harriette Parker, mother of Emma Haywood , was related to Herbert Parker, husband of Margaret McGillivray?
Kylie B
Husband of Harriet ???
Looks like it ;D
Harriet HAYWOOD died 1928 81years Lal Lal
Father: Wm Henry Henry PARKER
Mother: Mary Ann ECCLESTON
Herbert Eccleston PARKER died 1951 75 years Ballt
Father: Henry Mother: Mary Anne ECCLESTON
Raylen
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Ooops- sorry that should have been Husband of hariette!
Wow- so Emma Haywoods mother was also the sister of Emma's brother-in-law....I think thats right!!
Thanks Raylen
Kylie
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Father: Chas McGILLIVRAY Mother: Emma HAYWOOD
MCGILLIVRAY
ROBT WILLIAM 1914 Lethbridge Reg#14243
born 21/6/1914 died 16/1/1916 buried Lethbridge Cemetery
CHAS JNO 1916 Lethbridge Reg#4876
died 1940 age 23years Geelong Reg#15718
born 13/2/1916 died 1/1/1940
as a result of an accident. Buried at Lethbridge Cemetery
MALCOLM 1917 Lal Lal Reg#30222
born 1/10/1917 died 25/11/1919 buried Lethridge Cemetery
Raylen
Just added the above deaths for you :'(
and this site has transciptions of Headstones at Lethbridge Cemetery.
Lots of good info on your McGillivray family here ;D
http://zades.com.au/gandd/images%5Cstories%5Cpdfs%5CLethbridgeT.pdf
Raylen
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Kylie,
This site you are able to get free photos
of your families headstones :D
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvsac/Lethbridge.htm
Raylen
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MCGILLIVRAY additional and summary.
1,Hart MCGILLIVRAY married Herbert Eccleston PARKER, Geelong,1908 (bdm reg no. 4009)
Births (aniph's post)
Hy Jno 1909 at Lal Lal (#20527)
William born 1911 at Lal Lal (#21341) added.
Elsie Mary born at Lal Lal in 1912 (#21800) added.
Deaths (Raylen's post)
Harriet HAYWOOD died 1928, age 81yrs, Lal Lal, father Wm Henry PARKER, mother Mary
Ann ECCLESTON.
Herbert Eccleston PARKER died 1951, 75years Ballarat, father Henry, mother Mary Anne
ECCLESTON.
2,Malcolm MCGILLIVRAY married Lucy May MCLEAN in 1920 (#2068)
Births
Ian Rankin born at Warragul 1920 (#36056)
3,Janet MCGILLIVRAY married Luke GOGGIN in 1913 (#6920)
Births all at Lethbridge
Angus 1915 (#14121)
Lawrence Matthew 1917 (#13552)
Luke 1919 (#12723)
4,Angus MCGILLIVRAY married Irene Gladys DUGDAL, 1942 (#3428)
5,Emma MCGILLIVRAY married Mathew GOGGIN, Shelford in 1912 (#5788)
Births all at Lethbridge
William John 1914 (#5216)
Margaret Elizabeth 1916 (#13393)
6,John MCGILLIVRAY married Annie Marion Ross LAIRD in 1916 (#2713)
7,Annie Plummer MCGILLIVRAY married James Patrick HOWARD, Victoria, 1909 (#5875)
Births
Sheila Mcgillivray at Carlton in 1910 (#1549) father Jas Patk, mother Annie Plummer
MCGILLIVRAY.
Henry at Fitzroy South in 1912 (#29721)father James Patrick, mother Ann MCGILLIVRAY.
8,Neil MCGILLIVRAY married Matilda SANDERS, Shelford in 1908 (#6360)
another possible earlier marriage for Neil is
Neil MCGILLIVRAY married Carol CRUMP, Mount Stope in 1903 (#5123)(possible red
herring)
Births (Raylen's post)all at Lethbridge
Dorothy Emma 1910 (#20788)
John Gordon 1912 (#21857)
Ivy Matilda 1913 (#32614)
Margaret Nelly 1916 (#22293)
Annie Irene 1918 (#20877)
Jessie Elizabeth 1920 (#23450)
Deaths (Raylen's post)
John Gordon died 1974 Colac?, 62years (#21031)
9,Charles MCGILLIVRAY married Emma HAYWOOD, Sethbridge (possibly Lethbridge?) 1912
#11555)
Births (Raylen's post)
Robt William 1914 Lethbridge (#14243)
Chas Jno 1916 Lethbridge (#4876)
Malcolm 1917 Lal Lal (#30222)
Deaths (Raylen's post)
Chas Jno died 1940 age 23yrs Geelong (#15718)
Emma MCGILLIVRAY (nee HAYWOOD) 1958, age 73yrs, Elsternwick) (#12423)
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Hi Raylen
Thank you so much for these links- the summary of headstones is brilliant. FOund a few in there though that I am not sure who they belong to??
Did Luke and Janet have sons called Jack born 1924 and Angus Michael born 1915?
Thanks again- off to keep looking through the PDF!
Kylie B
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Hi Logan and Raylen
Thanks heaps for that summary and the links- i think I almost have it all now!
One question- Logan you added:
1,Hart MCGILLIVRAY married Herbert Eccleston PARKER, Geelong,1908 (bdm reg no. 4009)
Births (aniph's post)
Hy Jno 1909 at Lal Lal (#20527)
William born at Lal Lal (#21341) added.Elsie Mary born at Lal Lal in 1912 (#21800) added.
When was William Born? what year please?
And were Luke and Matthew Goggin brothers??
I am assuming they were, but would be good to confirm!
So it seems the only siblings that did not have children were Angus and Irene Dugdale (date too modern to check I assume?), and John and Annie Laird- who married in 1916. Has anyone seen deaths for any of these 4?
Raylen- the burials you sent the link for mention on a headstone 2 other brothers (children of CHarles and Emma)- edward and Alexander....any sign of their births or can I assume they must have been after 1920??
Thanks again everyone for all this wonderful help!!
Kylie B
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added to message Kylie (sorry left date out)
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Thanks Logan!
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It looks as if Matthew and Luke were brothers according to his death notice.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
The Argus Friday 4th May 1917 page 1
GOGGIN - Officially reported killed in France, Private M.L. Goggin, dearly loved son
of late John and Elizabeth Goggin, of Kirkstall; husband of E. Goggin, Lethbridge;
and brother of Jean, Mrs O'MULLANE, Mrs CARROLL, Robert, Luke, James; aged 39 years.
Rest in Peace.
From the AIF project -
Lawrence Matthew (given names reversed) GOGGIN Regimental number 2034
http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=113190
This leads to here and search with GOGGIN, 2034 (his regimental number), Between 1914 to 1919 you will be able to
see his service papers.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
So if Matthew's parents were
John GOGGIN and Elizabeth OBRIEN
GOGGIN family
Births for the above parents
Luke , birth place Killarney 1866 (#5248)
Catherine Annie, birth place St. Helens 1868 (#27324)
William John, birth place Kirk (Kirstall?) 1872 (#24080)
Little William DIED age 10 at Kirkstall in 1882 (#9110)
Matthew Lawrence, Kirk 1875 (#23680)
Sarah Jane, Kirk 1879 (#24118)
Mary, Kirk 1883 (#17667)
;D ;D ;)
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There are some wills for you to look at also.
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54
Judith
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THanks very very much Logan and Judith- off to check out these links now!
Kylie B
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Raylen- the burials you sent the link for mention on a headstone 2 other brothers (children of CHarles and Emma)- edward and Alexander....any sign of their births or can I assume they must have been after 1920??
Kylie B
Kylie,
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
has some service records for
EDWARD PARKER MCGILLIVRAY
gives birth date as 25/2/1920 Lal Lal
Father- Charles living at Lethbridge
ALEXANDER HAYWOOD MCGILLIVRAY
gives birth date as 19/11/1920 Lethbridge
Father - Charles living at Lethbridge
No birth records for these two :-\
(looks like they fibbed about their ages)
Raylen
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Very clever- thanks Raylen.
I have just been checking out the NAA service records and found a few more I think might be mine- can anyone find any sign of these amongst marriages or deaths please??
Wallace McGillivray born 16 Dec 1923 Letihbridge, NOK father William McGillivray
Angust Andrew McGillivray born 19 May 1926 Lethbridge NOK father Neil McGillivray
And Edward Parker McGillivray has 2 listings, one with his father Charles as next of kin, then another with wife Emma McGillivray listed- so married Emma someone..
THanks again for all the help!
Kylie b
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Hi kylie, i don't know if you are still after more info about the McGillivray's, but my great grandmother and grandfather father are harriet and herbert eccleston parker.
Cheers, karen
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Hi Karen!
It's been ages since I looked at my McGillivrays but yes- I would love any info you have on Harriette and Herbert Parker. Thank you so much :)
Kylie