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Title: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Saturday 04 September 10 20:46 BST (UK)

John SINCOCK wife unknown only known child John born 1812 Crowan m 1835 Martha CHENOWETH b 1814 Cornwall (Parents Samuel and Martha unknown)
Children John 1836, William 1836, Mary 1939 all born Crowan, Mary Christened Perranuthnoe 28/11/1839
These 5 travelled to Tasmania arriving in 1843 Edward is recorded as born aboard the ship King William and Martha was born in Hobart 1844 and soon after they moved to South Australia where Jane was born in Adelaide 1845 and Catherine in Mt Barker 1847 Samuel 1878 Susannah 1850 and Joseph in Kanmantoo in 1854.
Any assistance in growing my ancestral tree of the parents of John and Martha and their siblings would be appreciated.

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: barbatalice on Thursday 11 November 10 11:41 GMT (UK)

I have a John SIMCOCK that seems to match your John who was born in Cornwall c 1836 and emigrated to South Australia

John SIMCOCK married Julia Ann THOMAS in Callington, South Australia 23 Feb 1856.
Source: www.nla.gov.au Advertiser (Adelaide South Aust) Sat 24 Feb 1906 Golden Wedding notice: Simcock-Thomas.-At Callington, on Feb 23, 1856, by Rev. R. C. Flackhard, John, eldest son of I (?) Simcock, Kanmantoo, to Julia A., eldest daughter of Nicholas Thomas, Callington. Present address Norwood

John SIMCOCK died in Norwood, South Australia 14 Jun 1915.
Source: www.nla.gov.au The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA )Tues 15 June 1915 Death notice: SIMCOCK.-On the 14th June, at Muller-street, Norwood. John, beloved husband of Julia Simcock, in his 80th year, late of Kanmantoo.

Julia Ann SIMCOCK (nee THOMAS) was alive in 1919 - she placed an in memorium notice for her husband in the newspaper in Jun 1919. She died sometime before the end of 1925 in South Australia

So far I've only found one child for them: Alfred SIMCOCK born South Australia about 1857, died Moonta South Australia 05 Feb 1901. I haven't found any descendants for him yet.

Julia Ann THOMAS was born in Cornwall and arrived in South Australia with her parents and siblings on 27 Jan 1848 on the ship "Success" Two of her uncles and two male cousins were also on this ship.

Cheers
barb

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: barbatalice on Thursday 11 November 10 12:08 GMT (UK)

Just found a great article by John SIMCOCK in the Advertiser (Adelaide) Saturday 2 September 1899 page 4
www.newspapers.nla.gov.au
Title: AN AUSTRALIAN PIONEER.SIXTY YEARS IN THE COLONIES. AN INTERESTING NARRATIVE. SOME EARLY COPPER MINES

cheers
Barb

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Thursday 11 November 10 12:41 GMT (UK)

Hi Barb
We should definately get in touch
I have 11 children for John
My wife father is a ditect decendant of John and Martha and John and Julia Ann
Bob

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: barbatalice on Thursday 11 November 10 21:20 GMT (UK)

This is great. I have a lot of info on the other descendants of the other family members, but this is the first time I have made contact with a descendant of Nicholas THOMAS

I am putting in the names of Julia Ann's THOMAS family into this thread so that other THOMAS researchers will be alerted

The THOMAS family all arrived in Adelaide on the same ship in 1848:
3 brothers Mauris THOMAS, John THOMAS & Nicholas THOMAS;
The sons of Mauris THOMAS, Mauris THOMAS (jnr) and Charles THOMAS;
The wife and children of Nicholas THOMAS.

Were the 11 children the offspring of Julia Ann & John?

Could you please answer these questions for me
What was the name of Julia Ann's mother?
What were the names of Julia Ann's siblings?
Was Priscilla THOMAS a sister or relation of Julia Ann's?

Cheers
Barb

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 22:02 GMT (UK)

Hi Barb and Bob,

The Register 26 Feb 1856

On the 23 Feb at Callington, on the Bremer, by the Rev Robert C FLOCKART, John, eldest son of Mr John SIMCOCK, storekeeper, Kanmantoo to Julia Ann, Eldest daughter of Mr N THOMAS, farmer of Callington

Cornwall Census if Free Online.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html

I note

HO107/142/7 Folio 45 page 10
Bridge
Illogan

THOMAS Nicholas 25 Y Sawyer
THOMAS Mary 25 Y
THOMAS Julia 8 Y
THOMAS John 4 Y
THOMAS William 3 Y
THOMAS James 2 Y
THOMAS Mary 1 Y

I do not see this family in 1851

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 22:14 GMT (UK)

BISA

SIMCOCK John parents John and Martha nee CHENOWYTH born 14 Sep 1835 Crowan Cornwall and died 14 Jun 1915 Adelaide SA buried WTC arrived about 1845 from Tasmania. occupation Miner, Storekeeper residence Callington, Kanmantoo, Norwood religion Methodist
married 26 Feb 1856 Callington SA to Julia Ann nee THOMAS father N. born May1833 died 7 Jun 1920 children, 5 sons, 5 daus

Julia Ann SIMCOCK died 7 Jun 1920 Adelaide Dist Ade 438 110. She was aged 87 a widow relative John SIMCOCK deceased husband residence Adelaide.

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 22:43 GMT (UK)

Births

SIMCOCK Mary Ann 3 Feb 1857 Strathalbyn Dist Str 10 171Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SIMCOCK Alfred 11 May 1858 St Ives Dist Str Symbol A 14 288 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia THOMAS

SIMCOCK Sarah 21 Sep- 1860 Scotts Creek Dist Str 21 400 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SIMCOCK Elizabeth 28 May 1862 Callington Dist Str 25 246 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SINCOCK Benjamin 6 Feb 1864 Kanmantoo Dist Str 30 136 parents John SINCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SIMCOCK Edwin 12 Nov 1865 Scotts Creek Dist Str 39 376 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia formerly SMITH nee THOMAS

SIMCOCK Isaac 27 Apr 1869 Menkoo Farm Dist Str 73 436 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia THOMAS

SIMCOCK Oscar Jacob 2 Aug 1871 Nr Kanmantoo Dist Str 99 339 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia formerly SMITH nee THOMAS

SIMCOCK Thomas 21 Apr 1873 Nr Kanmantoo Dist Str 122 544 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia formerly SMITH nee THOMAS

SIMCOCK Emma 3 Sep 1876 North Yelta Dist Dal 171 464 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

Thats 10 - I also see this but Julia seems a little old

SIMCOCK Arthur William 7 Nov 1886 Kanmantoo Dist Str 384 230 father not recorded mother Julia Ann SIMCOCK

This looks like the Smith Connection

SMITH William 22 Aug 1853 Not recorded Dist Ade 4 206 parents William SMITH and Julia Ann THOMAS

SMITH William 28 single father not recorded = THOMAS Julia 17 single father not recorded 29 Jun 1850 St James Church Blakiston Dist Ade 14 148

SIMCOCK John 21 single father not recorded = SMITH Julia Ann 23 widow father not recorded 23 Feb 1856 residence of M THOMAS Callington on the Bremer Dist Nai Symbol A 25 270

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 23:06 GMT (UK)

Julia Ann Thomas THOMAS was baptised 20 Apr 1836 at Illogan parents Nicholas and Mary

Her brother John was baptised 12 Dec 1836 so Julia was probably not a baby (since census and other records seem to indicate she was born about 1833)

Now there is a Nicholas THOMAS = Mary ROSCROW 13 Feb 1836 in Illogan - possibly a reason for the late baptism

Looks like Nicholas died 23 Apr 1873 Nr Callington Dist Str 52 401 He was aged 60 status relative not recorded residence near Callington

No sign of a death or remarriage for Mary

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 23:23 GMT (UK)

MMM

THOMAS Nicholas born about 1813 died 24 Apr 1873 buried Callington SA arrived by 1856 0ccupation Farmer residence Callington religion Methodist?
married Eliz born about 1821 died 28 Jul 1883 buried WTC
children Julia Ann SIMCOCK, Mary WILTSHIRE, Eliz Anna WILTSHIRE 1841-1889

THOMAS Elizabeth died 28 Jul 1883 Upper Mitcham Dist Ade 129 496. She was aged 71 a widow relative Nicholas THOMAS deceased husband residence Upper Mitcham.

I would think if there was a second marriage between 1841 census and immigration in 1848 it should be in Redruth district of which Illogan is a part but I do not see anything. There are no births in SA to Nicholas and Elizabeth.

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 23:57 GMT (UK)

Aha there is a marriage in SA

THOMAS Nicholas 48 status not recorded father Mauris THOMAS = PENHALL Elizabeth 49 status not recorded father William DALLY 7 Mar 1860 residence of Rev J STANDRIN Mt Barker Dist Nai Symbol S 41 138

Son

John THOMAS 32 single father Nicholas THOMAS = Thomas Mary Ann 34 status not recorded father William PENHALL 31 Oct 1868 res Nicholas THOMAS Callington Dist Str 77 205

daughter

Thomas WILTSHIRE 21 status not recorded father William WILTSHIRE = THOMAS Mary 27 single father Nicholas THOMAS 16 Jun 1863 Res of Mr THOMAS Nr Callington Dist Nai 54 322

Looks like the other daughter listed in BISA is a step daughter

William WILTSHIRE 22 status not recorded father William WILTSHIRE = PENHALL Elizabeth Anna 19 status not recorded father Wiilliam PENHALL 14 Nov 1860 Wesleyan Mission House Mt Barker Dist MtB 44 225

possibly

Henry THOMAS 29 single father Nicholas THOMAS = TILLETT Ellen Elizabeth 21 single father Thomas TILLETT 22 Jan 1874 Wesleyan Mission House Mt Barker Dist MtB 98 168

also note this one in the Register but not listed in the marriage index so unable to say if it was his son

8 Jul 1850

On the 2nd July at the residence of Mr Nicholas THOMAS, Bremer, by the Rev Spencer WILLIAMS Mr William THOMAS to Margretta youngest daughter of Mr Garrett NEGLE of Waterford Ireland.

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 12 November 10 00:23 GMT (UK)

THOMAS Nicholas died 23 Apr 1873 Nr Callington Dist Str 52 401. He was aged 60 status relative not recorded residence near Callington

Nicholas does have a headstone at Callington Methodist but unfortunately the MI does not help with what became of Mary.

In Loving Memory
Of
NICHOLAS THOMAS
Died Apr 24 1873
aged 73

There are no other THOMAS monuments in this cemetery

Memorial for John SIMCOCK

Sacred
to the Memory of
JOHN SIMCOCK
who departed this life
March 29 1885
Leaving 5 Sons and 4 Daughters
to mourn their loss
aged 73 years

Weep not for me my sorrowing friends
Who now are gathered round
For in the Grave I now must Lie
Until the Trumpet Sound

and for Martha ( a separate stone)

Sacred
To the memory of
MARTHA
the beloved wife of
John SIMCOCK
Who departed this life Feb 22 1883
aged 65 years

Weep not for me my sorrowing friends
Who now are gathered round
For in the Grave I now must Lie
Until the Trumpet's Sound

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: barbatalice on Friday 12 November 10 00:36 GMT (UK)

Kris
YOU ARE A STAR
It will take me weeks to digest all this and try and fit it into what I already have
And then there is Bob's data

Half the population of South Australia must be descended from these Cornish SIMCOCK and THOMAS lines!

Thanks so much
As always you are so generous with your time and expertise
:) :)

I forgot to mention to Bob that there were also two THOMAS women, Mary Ann KIDD ( nee THOMAS) and Emmeline THOMAS, daughters of Mauris THOMAS snr, ie cousins of Julia Ann. They arrived in Melbourne in 1856. Emmeline moved to SA and married George Henry COBBIN, chemist, in Mt Barker in 1865 and then Francis Isaac William Elford SMITH, chemist, in 1896 in Port Augusta.

Mary Ann KIDD (nee THOMAS) married William Cowley WATTS in Melbourne

Barb

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 12 November 10 01:08 GMT (UK)

You are very welcome Barb,

I love it when we have posts uniting Cornwall and South Australia ;D

Now for Bob's SI[NM]COCKS

John SINCOCK = Martha CHENOWETH 21 Jun 1835 Crowan

There is a John SINCOCK baptised in Crowan 19 Jan 1812 parents Edward and Mary

also John SINCOCK 2 Feb 1806 Crowan parents Edward and Grace
also John SINCOCK 25 Jun 1809 Crowan parents Edward and Grace
also John SINCOCK 25 Feb 1810 Crowan parents William and Grace
also John SINCOCK 20 Aug 1815 Crowan parents William and Grace

Sorry no luck with a baptism listing father as John. I can see these marriages in Crowan but no marriage for a John at this time period either. How do you know his father was John?

Martha CHENOWETH was baptised 1 Jan 1814 Crowan parents Samuel and Martha

Samuel CHENOWETH = Martha JOHNS 26 May 1807 Crowan

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: barbatalice on Friday 12 November 10 01:45 GMT (UK)

About Nicholas THOMAS's 2nd wife Elizabeth
I think she is Elizabeth PENHALL (nee DALLEY or DALLY) who arrived in SA from Cornwall with her husband William PENHALL and 8 children in Sep 1847.

William PENHALL died in SA in 1850.

I wonder what happened to Nicholas THOMAS's first wife?

Cheers

Barb

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 05:54 GMT (UK)

The children between Isaac and Oscar I have Juliann Simcock b Aug 1869 Kanmantoo
From Notes by J.A. Taylor (nee Simcock) at fathers dictaction 6 Oct 1914
1841 Census 235 Records found http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/search.html Transcript of Piece HO107/143 (Part 8) Civil Parish of Perran Uthnoe Book 11 Folio 41 Page 18 NOTE: all ages of Adults should be rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5 Perranuthnoe Downs,1, John Sincock, 25, Miner, In county,, Marth Sincock, 20, In county, John Sincock, 5 In county, William Sincock, 5 In county, Mary Sincock, 18m,, In county, Name: John Sincock Marth Sincock William Sincock John Sincock Mary Sincock Age: 25 20 9 5 1 6 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 abt 1821 abt 1832 abt 1836 abt 1839 Gender: Male Female Male Male Female Where born: Cornwall, England Cornwall, England Cornwall, England Cornwall, England Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Perran Ulthnoe Perran Ulthnoe Perran Ulthnoe Perran Ulthnoe Perran Ulthnoe Hundred: Penwith Penwith Penwith Penwith Penwith County/Island: Cornwall Cornwall Cornwall Cornwall Cornwall Country: England England England England England Registration district: Penzance Penzance Penzance Penzance Penzance Sub-registration district: Marazion Marazion MarazionMarazion Marazion

>Arrived Tasmania 1842 in Adelaide 1844 Assisted Immigrants to Tasmania 1984-1889 ship King William arrived in Tasmania on 28 Jan 1843 and the following are included in the passenger lis Sincock John 31 Sincock Martha 25 Sincock John 8 Sincock William 7 Sincock Mary 3 Sincock bv

http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html SIMCOCK John, Martha nee CHENOWYTH / CHENOWETH, John, Wm, My, Ed, Martha (ex Tas) arrived by 1845-12-31 [7 ] Source [7] Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885, SA Genealogy & Heraldry Soc, 1986] Wm = William, My = Mary, Ed = Edward Surname SIMCOCK Given Names John Cemetery Callington Cemetery Plot/Grave/Niche 113 Last Residence KANMANTOO Date of Death 30/3/1885 Age at Death 73 years Minister Officiating Reverend Stephenson Grave Depth 7 feet Permit/Lease/Register Burial/Order Number 253 The inscription states 5 sons and 4 daughters Birth c 1812

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 06:06 GMT (UK)

/I have John Sincock b 18/1/1812 Crowan baptised 18/1/1812 Crowan d 29/3/1885 Kanmantoo buried Callington Father John b d m ? mother ?
Martha c b 1/1/1814 d 22/2/1883 Kanmantoo b Callington m 26/6/1835 Cornwall
parents Samuel and Martha
Jahn, William and Mary born Cornwall Edward bor aboard ship Martha born Tasmania Jane Adelaide Catherine, Samuel and Susannah Mt Barker Joseph Kanmatoo

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 12 November 10 08:57 GMT (UK)

Quote from: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 06:06 GMT (UK)

/I have John Sincock b 18/1/1812 Crowan baptised 18/1/1812 Crowan d 29/3/1885 Kanmantoo buried Callington Father John b d m ? mother ?

But Bob, where is the baptism to verify this ???

You say you have this but can you please supply the source? The marriage is too early to list father. SA deaths do not list fathers, the burial at Callington does not list parents. Generally babies are not baptised the day they are born unless it is a private baptism - usually at home because the baby is not expected to live. Sometimes they do survive and there is usually in these circumstances a second entry to indicate they were received into the church at a later date.

This is 1 day before the the baptism I found to Edward and Mary :-\

Cheers Kris :)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 09:45 GMT (UK)

Edited

Callington Cemetery Records are available

http://www.murraybridge.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=335

Transcription of 1841 census was provided in reply 5 of this thread

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Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 10:04 GMT (UK)

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 10:05 GMT (UK)

WA connection
I found your 2008 email by Googling Simcock and Crowan. I am a great grandson of Joseph who married Isabella Humphrey. Have you heard from Dorothy Millar also from WA? Dot is a great granddaughter of Jane who married William Jones. Dots grandmother Martha Annie was one of 4, went on to have 12. My grandmother Martha Annie was one of 10, went on to have 7. ...so there is quite a tribe over here. I assume you are from John jnr? Hope to hear from you. Regards Gavin

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 10:09 GMT (UK)

ship Eliza http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/eliza1849.htm
912 tons, Captain Thomas Pain, from London & Plymouth 11th May 1849, arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 23rd August 1849
South Australian Register Saturday 25th August 1849
Barker, —   inf   no record   no record   at sea
Barker   Samuel   34   Labourer   73/3   Essex
    Hannah   36
    Samuel   9
    Alfred   7
    Thomas   2
    William   inf               born at sea, 5th ? | died at sea
Sources: State Library South Australia, official passenger lists, mainly of immigrants arriving in South Australia under United Kingdom assisted passage schemes, 1847-1886 GRG 35/48a (formely ACC 313); Sydney Shipping Gazette; South Australian Register; The South Australian Government Gazette; Biographical index SA 1836-1885 (the B-index column indicates individuals who may be found in that index, with corresponding reference number for further research)

Edwin Simcock son of John and Julia Ann m Alice Barker dau of Alfred Barker and Mary Ann Stevens

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Friday 12 November 10 10:44 GMT (UK)

Martha dau of Matha C and John m 1857 to Sydney John HILL ex Somerset this family is the Strathalbyn link to the Simcock family They had 9 children
Joseph Joh and Martha's youngest had a dau Jane no source info of info on wife

children John Julia Ann
Elizabeth married Herbert Woodstock 7 children

Juliann or Julia Ann did she marry a TAYLOR I have a letter written by J.A. Taylor (nee Simcock) info drafted from her fathers dictation on 6 ?Oct 1914 itg is not clear that her father was John c 1812
It has additional information added by Stella Holt dau of Alice Eva Myrtle Simcock dau of Edwin 1865 who married Alice Barker d 1893 2 children Edwin and Alice then he married Marianne CHANDLER no details marriage or if they had children

Title: Re: Bedggoods in England
Post by: abedge on Thursday 31 March 11 12:18 BST (UK)

Hi
Iis there still anyone prepared to swap stories between the Aussie and Brit Bedggoods?
I have been a bit out of touch (last 10 years or so) with the Aussie family tree but am keen to get reactivated again.
The Brit relatives have always held a fascination but I have not had the resources to do much about it.

The internet may help with both expanding the Aussie tree and learning a bit about the Brits.

Looking forward to any response

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Tuesday 05 July 11 20:24 BST (UK)

My Bedggoood conection is from Rangeworthy.
Elizabeth daughter of Josiah and Hannah Packer married my my great great grandfather Llewellyn May at Stroud. 3 children were born in Gloucestershire before the family emigrated to South Australia where the other 3 children were born including my great grandfather Charles.
Bob :o

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Tuesday 05 July 11 20:58 BST (UK)

Have just made contact with a descendant of Jane 1845
Bob

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: abedge on Saturday 06 August 11 13:10 BST (UK)

Bob,
I am descended from a brother of your Elizabeth May (nee Bedggood), whose name was George.
I dare say that you know that six of Elizabeth's siblings came to Australia to live (and die), although her youngest brother Josiah later went to New Zealand and met up with his cousins there before passing away in 1911.

I know next to nothing about the Mays in SA but I do hve a copy of Elizabeth, Charles and Josiah Mays birth certificates.

I would like to share the history of the 1850's if you wish, but I have no yearnings to try and learn all of the May clan in SA. However, the connection and arrival of so many from the one family coming to Australia is of interest to me.

Lets see where we get to.

Alan

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: abedge on Saturday 06 August 11 13:41 BST (UK)

Bob,
Just looked up Jane 1845 and she is presumably the youngest of 6 daughters to James Bedggood. James is an older brother of your Elizabeth May (nee Bedggood) and my George Bedggood.

James came to Australia in 1849.

More if you require it.

regards
Alan

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: tpibob44 on Sunday 07 August 11 06:44 BST (UK)

Hi Alan
Would love to exchange. email (*)
Josiah going to NZ was after the death of his wife and dau Ada and son in 1874. Son Alfred Died in NZ so but didn't go till after 1894 when 2nd child was born in Victoria

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Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: abedge on Monday 08 August 11 23:25 BST (UK)

Bob,
Just re-found an 8th member of teh family that came to Australia - Elizabeth's eldest sister Ann who came in 1853 with her husband John Stone, on the same ship (Janettze - a dutch barge) as two of her brothers - Charles and Daniel.

There were so many coming here, with their spouce and children. What was their interactions here during those early days?

Email following.
Alan

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: topjars on Thursday 14 March 13 02:37 GMT (UK)

Hi All,
Im trying to track down any info on John Sincock (37 years) and Jane Sincock (39 years)( nee Fradd) who emigrated to Port Adelaide July 3 1888 with a son William John (4 years)

John was from Truro and a blacksmith Jane was from Padstow.

Any help would be greatly received.
Thanks
Gary

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: KableWalker on Saturday 27 July 13 15:28 BST (UK)

Jack
I've looked up John & Jane Simcock/Sincock in South Australian Genealogy and so far I can't find anything about them. They didn't leave Adelaide for the countryside to farm and there's no blacksmith business listed for John, nor does William John marry in South Australia. I couldn't find them in the mining town of Broken Hill where lots of Simcock/Sincocks had stacks of children either (although John & Jane must have finished their family with William John as they were in their late 30s on arrival). I think they might have travelled to Victoria in search of work- there was still a goldrush there, whereas South Australia was settled into copper and tin mining (like Cornwall). Unfortunately even Australians can't access the Victorian BMDs without paying to look, so you'd need to use contacts or a facility like Ancestry to delve into Victorian records.
Sorry about the lack of success, but I did look hard!
Scratch the Victorians next!
Cheers
Kay
[South Australia]
In search of Simcock/Sincock who ended up in Auckland New Zealand, producing my cousin, Alan Simcock about 1952. I don't know how we are related!

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: KableWalker on Friday 11 April 14 00:42 BST (UK)

Quote from: topjars on Thursday 14 March 13 02:37 GMT (UK)

Hello again Gary
I have discovered a marriage added to the SA Genealogy site, for William John Sincock to Florence Robina Arriola in 1903, registered at Adelaide, South Australia. Go to http://www.genealogysa.org.au/
to search for any offspring etc.
Cheers
Kay

Title: Re: SINCOCK/SIMCOCK & CHENOWETH Cornwall to South Australia
Post by: seeking0 on Wednesday 07 June 23 09:59 BST (UK)

Quote from: krisesjoint on Thursday 11 November 10 22:43 GMT (UK)

Births

SIMCOCK Mary Ann 3 Feb 1857 Strathalbyn Dist Str 10 171Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SIMCOCK Alfred 11 May 1858 St Ives Dist Str Symbol A 14 288 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia THOMAS

SIMCOCK Sarah 21 Sep- 1860 Scotts Creek Dist Str 21 400 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SIMCOCK Elizabeth 28 May 1862 Callington Dist Str 25 246 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SINCOCK Benjamin 6 Feb 1864 Kanmantoo Dist Str 30 136 parents John SINCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

SIMCOCK Edwin 12 Nov 1865 Scotts Creek Dist Str 39 376 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia formerly SMITH nee THOMAS

SIMCOCK Isaac 27 Apr 1869 Menkoo Farm Dist Str 73 436 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia THOMAS

SIMCOCK Oscar Jacob 2 Aug 1871 Nr Kanmantoo Dist Str 99 339 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia formerly SMITH nee THOMAS

SIMCOCK Thomas 21 Apr 1873 Nr Kanmantoo Dist Str 122 544 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia formerly SMITH nee THOMAS

SIMCOCK Emma 3 Sep 1876 North Yelta Dist Dal 171 464 Parents John SIMCOCK and Julia Ann THOMAS

Thats 10 - I also see this but Julia seems a little old

SIMCOCK Arthur William 7 Nov 1886 Kanmantoo Dist Str 384 230 father not recorded mother Julia Ann SIMCOCK

.....

Cheers Kris :)

John and Julia are buried in the same grave at West Terrace Cemetery and on their headstone Arthur William SIMCOCK (who is buried at Bute Cemetery) is named as their grandson. He is also named as Julia's grandson in his death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article89162286

I would speculate that he was the illegitimate son of one of their daughters.

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