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My grandmother's family are dorset Samways. mostly from wareham, stoborough and surrounding area, although further back they are also from along the south dorset area. does anyone else have any Samways ancestors in their family?
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Have a look at this thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,480140.0.html
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thanks . I have had a look at that one but as far as I know none of my Samways come from anywhere outside Dorset
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Hi
Just a very quick reply, Ive seen Samways in Evershot and Beaminster - so it might be worth a try.
Marian
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Hi,
Are you aware of the Dorset OPC site? A great variety of records available for most parishes.
http://www.opcdorset.org
Nanny Jan
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Hi Nanny Jan, yes my cousin who has also been working on our family history has made good use of it thanks anyway
jane
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My grandmother's family are dorset Samways. mostly from wareham, stoborough and surrounding area, although further back they are also from along the south dorset area. does anyone else have any Samways ancestors in their family?
I don't have any Samways in my family but I knew a couple...
childhood mermories of Mr Samways' kiosk by Stair Hole, Lulworth Cove. I have photos somewhere, or my brother does. Will post them when I find them.
He and his wife, Connie lived at Stair Cottage, BH20 5RS. Which means that one of them must have helped my father in some way....gardening? perhaps?
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Mr Samways was not only a purveyor of the sweets I liked to buy - Spangles and Lovehearts - he was also a (somewhat elderly, to be fair) knight in shining armour, a protector! ....from my younger brother who would chase me whilst brandishing slow worms.
Connie was much loved too. Jean Reeves, who lives there now, remembers them well.
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what lovely memories you must have. I look forward to seeing any photos you might have
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My grandmother's family are dorset Samways. mostly from wareham, stoborough and surrounding area, although further back they are also from along the south dorset area. does anyone else have any Samways ancestors in their family?
I don't have any Samways in my family but I knew a couple...
childhood mermories of Mr Samways' kiosk by Stair Hole, Lulworth Cove. I have photos somewhere, or my brother does. Will post them when I find them.
He and his wife, Connie lived at Stair Cottage, BH20 5RS. Which means that one of them must have helped my father in some way....gardening? perhaps?
part time artist, i got in a muddle with my S's! Connie was not married to Mr Samways, she was married to Mr Sindon who was my grandmother's gardener.
i will ask about for more info on Mr Samways.
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thanks
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I have read, but can't remember where that Samways is a purely Dorset name by origin, but clearly it is now more widely distributed across the UK.
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yes I'd heard that too.
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Hi Part time artist,
I am related to a number of Samways in Dorset. If you give me a couple of names and dates, i can see if there is some connection.
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Loads of Dorset references to Samways on The National Archives website. Well worth a look!
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My great grandmother was Charlotte Samways - her family, in the early 1800's, lived in Portesham, they then moved to Sutton Poyntz, and finally finished up in Dorchester.
Ray Harris
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Hi, My name is Emma delves Nee samways. My whole family are from wareham dorset but my parents and I now live in new zealand. I have a grandfather named Brian samways in stouborough.
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wow Emma, we must be related somewhere down the line. where do you live in NZ? I have a email friend who lives in Christchurch. I wonder if your Grandfather in Stoborough is related to my lot. I will have to ask the two second cousins I have that are also searching for Samways and see if Brian rings any bells with them
all the best
jane
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Hi PTA
I have Ellen Rider who married William George Albert Samways in 1913. According to his army records they had two children William John b. 1914 in Wimbourne and Violet Mary b.1916 in Poole. Any relation??
Lentil
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Hi, I have a william samways who married "Nell" Rider ( I assume this is the same lady) . William was the brother of my grandmother Edith samways and my great aunt Winifred samways. I didnt have a date for the marriage on my family tree but they had 7 children!John (known as Jack), 1914, May 1916(mum of my second cousins Pamela and Marilyn).Doris 1920, Tom 1921, Ivy 19..?, Charles 1927, and Mary 1933.I have a photo of william with edith and winifred I think. I will have a look and scan it and then I send it to you if you would like? I have now checked my photos and scanned two onto an A4 sheet. one is William in his uniform and the other is william (top left) Edith bottom left. Martha (mother of all three), unknown man top right and winifred bottom right. Let me know if you would like me to send it to you
PTA
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Oh part time - I would love you to. What a lovely family. I have some information about the Rider family if you would like it but sadly no photographs. I got the information about William from the his army records on Ancestry. I'm not sure how you would be related to my husband - a few cousins I expect.
Lentil
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here is the page of photos
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by the way, yes please to the Rider family info as I can pass it onto Marilyn who is collecting info on her family and may not have the same information
thanks PTA
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Ok will p.m. tomorrow. I would love any further info you have too.
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My x2 great grandmother Mary Ann Samways b. 22 feb 1817 Beaminster Dorset England died 15 April 1910, Nelson New Zealand. Married William Dement b.11 Jan 1815 Beaminster died 19 Aug 1900 Nelson New Zealand.
Are there any family connections of Mary Ann or William still in Dorset or here in New Zealand.
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Hi there
I dont have a Samways from Beaminster on what I have so far but I will have a look on Ancestry to see if I can make any connections . If I can I'll come back to you
regards
jane
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My interest in this thread is that I had read Samways is a name peculiar to Dorset, yet I knew a family by that name in Doncaster. I wonder when they went up there?
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Hi
no idea about Doncaster although i know they have spread out more than just dorset
I'm woprking on Ancestry right now to see if i can find any links there
jane
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I have a number of Samways in my family.
On my father's side from Swyre are Elizabeth b 1832 m Henry Northover, Mary b 1825 m John Northover 1849 d 1894 Newport, Monmouthshire, and Henry Samways, b 1849, m Alice Purchase Northover 1876, d 1883. His children I haven't tracked
On my mother's side from Maiden Newton is Job, b 1823 Rampisham, and his 5 children, 4 daughters 1 son. In 1901 the son Fredrick was living on Dorchester Road, Weymouth (Melcombe Regis), with his family and son Fredrick b 1897
I also have a second cousin who married a William Samways b 1882 in Southampton in 1919.
If any of this is of interest, I'd be happy to give you more details.
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hi dhhound
I dont recognise any of those names but I'll ask my cousin who has some slightly different branches to mine
thanks for the info anyway
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my great uncle married Violet Samways born 1911 in Frome,somerset. Her father was George Robert born 1880 in Symondbury,Dorset,as was his father. Could there be a connection.?
Jane :)
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Hi and Greetings from Tasmania... Rick Cragg
Our Samway from Bedfordshire, before that Kent and now DNA keeps bringing us back to Samways of Dorset....Samway left for the USA and Canada from Dorset when arrived in the USA they changed the surname to Sammis
Malcolm John Samway b 1927 Clacton-On-Sea Essex England
Frank Leslie Samway b1895 Westminster London
William Samway b 1844 Blunham Bedfordshire
William Samway b 1814 Potton Bedfordshire
William Samway b 1789 Brenchley Kent
Major Samway b 1752 Hollingbourne Kent
Major Samway ?.....we seriously believe this guy must be from Dorset as no information available on usual sites.
We understand when the railways arrived in Dorset many families were able to travel longer distances to work, therefore moved to other counties....
That said..
My Wife's Dad Malcolm Samway fought for England in the Navy WW 2 ..when WW 2 ended his ship was in Asia, The ship pulled over in Darwin,the Captain said if you want to stay here you can...
he and many others of the crew got off the ship in Australia and never went back home to England....I can only imagine that England was in poor shape.
So this is our guy ..not to be confused with the one below..George Ampleford
Major Samway b 1752
married 10 Jan 1780
Elizabeth Mancteleo b 1756
Elizabeth Mancktelo
Marriage: 28 MAR 1780 - Brenchley, Kent, England
Spouse: George Ampleford
One Family story was that a Samway went to the USA and came home with an American Indian girl,
I personally believe the surname Manctelo is more likely to be Huguenot originally from France..
We have much information on her, but it is Hard to believe the Christian name Major is so hard to find,there is however a [surname] Major from Dorset...cant help wondering if there is a connection
So Thankyou again...Major is indeed our brickwall...any help Please
Kind Regards
Rick Cragg
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My husband's late Aunt Margaret married twice. The first time to
Robert John Samways born abt 1917 married 1937
Was in the army and died 15th January 1938 in Poona, India (drowned)
There is a Robert John 1916 born Weymouth but unsure if it's this one as we don't know where he came from.
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Thankyou...There was a family rumor that a brother to Malcom John Samway went to India and died ..his name was Ernest Samway..never bothered to pursue as our direction was finding this elusive Major
I messaged the Dorset Family history Society some time back...there reply was..
I can advise that I have had a look at your Samway family in Kent and unfortunately I am unable to link them to any Dorset Samway family. It is difficult to know what generation of the family would have moved along the coast to Kent ....and went on to refer me to the Kent Archives
The Kent archive said.. apart from saying they didnt think the marriage certificate would have any more information on it that was already posted, they had most of their info on Find-my-past..when I checked FindMyPast nothing more than we already have Major b. 1752 married Elizabeth and so on..
We have Elizabeth's Family line but no parents or origin for this Major b 1752....All tips and suggestions very welcome Thanks again Rick
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part time artist - those photos look so similar to my samways here in the states that its almost spooky. We are trying to hunt down a "Major" Samway who I believe probably moved away from Dorset to Kent and changed his name. Any chance I could show photos and we could maybe compare lines?
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I have recently found information from the Long Island Genealogy website that my Sammis (maiden name) was changed as of the 1600s from the Samways surname in Dorset. My aunt traced our lineage back to John Sammis 1643 Windsor CT - 18 Jan 1693 Huntington NY, USA. His father was Richard Samwayes b. 1 Nov 1615 and married Esther Horsford or Hosford in 1642 in Windsor, CT. His parents are John Samways and Temperance Denslow who were married in Netherbury, Dorset on 6 Feb 1609. I have notes that the Samwayes (Multiple spellings) are a one county family name as of my info from 2010. I trust that this information is true as it's posted on an Early American Genealogy website. I'm very interested in the ancestry of my family and have spent years researching daily. I have found a lot of information through searches, Ancestry.com, and FamilySearch.org and I'm looking for more. I have gone through the entire Baptism, Marriage and Burials books and have printed a lot of pages of information to use in my research. I am looking to find out John Samwayes ancestors.
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Hi jbnorris73, In our search for Samway, we have a DNA project. I sent your post to the administrator in the states and quite a lengthy reply came back...appears we are all on the same page..he went on to say .... I am a descendant of John Sammis (1643-1693) of Windsor, Connecticut through my maternal grandmother, Annie Florence Samis (1873-1927) of Drayton, Ontario, Canada.
The progenitor of the U.S. Sammis Line and the Canadian Samis line was John Sammis (1643-1693) born in Windsor, Hartford County, Colony of Connecticut (after 1776, State of Connecticut). John Sammis (1643-1693) was the only son of Richard Samways (1615-1650), born in Netherbury, Dorset County, England. Richard was the grandson of John Samways (1566-1639). Richard left Dorset, England in 1630 on the ship Mary and John and settled in Windsor, Connecticut the same year. Note: an email posted, March 8, 2010, at the Long Island Surnames (aka: Long Island Genealogies) website by Richard Samways (1937-2019), a member of the Samis DNA Project ... now deceased, made this comment concerning the surname change from Samways to Sammis ... "change of name [from Samways] to Sammis in the mid 1600's, in this family [Richard Samways (1615-1650)], almost certainly due to the very strong Dorset accent and the fact that very few could read or write their own names." I have more if interested....
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RickyJack, Yes! I'm interested in finding out more information, definitely. Thank you for offering.
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jbnorris73
Ive had a crack at sending a private message, if I dont hear from you n a few days Ill assume it failed
Cheers
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I am also a descendant of Mary Ann Samways born 1817 Dorset who married William Dement and died in Nelson, New Zealand.
Hello helmar if you're still on here!
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Yes! My whole paternal line is Samways! I can trace them back to 1596 in Abbotsbury and Netherbury, Dorset. I have a tree on Ancestry and FamilySearch that my aunt and I have been working on.
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Hi Guys
Just checked which I havent done so, for far to long...Ancestry
John [Johannes]Samwayes [Sammis/Samways/Samwaies] there are 1257 Family trees there.
If someone can find a Major Samways in one of them Please let me Know "almost immediately"
Cheers Rick