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Title: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Wednesday 08 September 10 22:04 BST (UK)
hi does anyone have any info on james doherty who was living in cartymore athenry in the late 1800s? his wife was mary mullin from fahys field athenry.  my great grandfather martin was one of their children, born 27 nov 1864.he was christened in lackagh turloughmore.have a feeling that james could have come from williamstown or glenamaddy but have no proof of that only that there were dohertys in the area and also know there was a connection to the delaney family who origionate there. can anyone verify if he came from either of these towns?
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: ammeneedia on Monday 20 September 10 22:30 BST (UK)
Hi

There is an earlier generation of Doherty's listed in Lackagh Records, James may have been a sibling born before the church records available from 1841.

Ger


                  
   1     Martin Doherty   b: Abt. 1810         
..      +Mary Greaney   b: Abt. 1810         
....................   2     Mary Doherty   b: 25.Aug.1842         
....................   2     Margaret Doherty   b: 18.Nov.1844         
....................   2     Mary Doherty   b: 29.Jul.1846         
....................   2     Bridget Doherty   b: 13.May.1851         
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Monday 20 September 10 22:46 BST (UK)
hi ger!
thanks or that information, tried to contact the local priest in lackagh before but had no joy. great to know there was another generation there. will have to look into it more. thanks again

Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Elle Mille on Tuesday 22 March 11 19:25 GMT (UK)
Hi there, I am also looking for information on the Dohertys of Lackagh. I'm 99% sure my great-great-grand mother was Mary Doherty whose parents were James Doherty and Mary Mullin. If Mary Doherty went on to move to Dublin and marry a Patrick Hodgins then I know I'm on the right track. Monivea, your great-grandfather Martin was Mary Doherty's sister. It looks like we could be related! Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 24 March 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
http://wn.com/Turloughmore

http://www.tuam-guide.com

No the Priests in Ireland will not give out information know because of fraud.  I think you would have to call in to the church.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Elle Mille on Thursday 24 March 11 12:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Rathmore.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: rathmore on Friday 25 March 11 11:51 GMT (UK)
1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchive.ie ( you might have to type this yourselve)
then click on Browse census, then click on 1901, they click on galway, then click on Athenry, then click on Athenry
Doherty living at no. 15, 100, 107, 133, 186, 200
no 200, Mary Doherty age 70 with john age 40
but can not find them on 1911 census
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Elle Mille on Monday 28 March 11 12:06 BST (UK)
Thanks Rathmore, I had a look at that. Mary (hopefully it's my Mary) lived a good age all the same. Also, there doesn't seem to be any Dohertys still living in the Lackagh/Turloughmore area in 1901 which is strange. Thanks again for your help!
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Mayomom on Saturday 31 January 15 06:20 GMT (UK)
I am related to the Mary Doherty (70) and John Doherty (40) on the 1901 census. I am still trying to figure out where they lived exactly. The Mary Doherty (70) on the 1901 census is my 3rd great grandmother. I am still trying to find information. The John Doherty in the 1901 census was a plasterer that worked for the Broderick's. I am in possession of a letter from Mary Doherty where she speaks about the family. The letter states her husband is dead and is buried in Athenry. Her son Patrick Doherty died in 1900 leaving behind three sons and a daughter. John the plasterer is working and went to great expense to bury his brother Patrick. He buried his brother next to the father in Athenry. My great great grandfather is Charles Doherty. He immigrated to the US and the letter is written to his daughter Mary.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Mayomom on Saturday 31 January 15 06:22 GMT (UK)
With regards to the Mary Doherty you are looking for, do you know if any of this information fits in with what you have? Thanks
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Gorman lough on Thursday 12 May 16 12:38 BST (UK)
Wonder if this thread is still active?? I am also related to the Dohertys of Athenry. My father was Bernard Doherty born 31 August 1914. His father was Martin Doherty and Martin's wife was Mary Mullins. The family farm was in Cartymore, Turloughmore, Athenry. I was told by my father that his father, Martin, had five uncles (or brothers, not sure) who emigrated to America. There is also a Donegal connection, but I have no details. Martin Doherty and Mary Mullins are buried in the cemetery in Athenry.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Thursday 12 May 16 19:41 BST (UK)
Hello haven't had much time at this in the last few years.  Yes its the same family my grandfather was Bernards brother peter. Have found it hard to find information on this line
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Gorman lough on Thursday 19 May 16 14:17 BST (UK)
Hi Monivea. I think that would make you my second cousin. By any chance do you know my grandfather's brothers names? I think one was called Edward who came back from America to buy a farm in Carthymore with Martin in the 1840s. There were four other brothers who stayed in America. I think they had connections with Boston and Long Island. Did your family ever hear of a Donegal connection? My father said we were originally from Donegal but not sure where.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: smartie-pants on Tuesday 28 February 17 18:38 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone is still here! My grandfather James was the last of the Doherty's living on the farm in Cartymore. He had 3 daughters who all married so the Doherty name has dwindled! I'm looking for information on his father Martin, my mom is convinced he emigrated to America and returned to buy the farm, does anyone have information on this? I recently met relatives from Boston and NY, there grandfather was Edward who remained in the states so I don't think he bought the farm. 
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Gorman lough on Friday 03 March 17 13:00 GMT (UK)
Hi, my name is Theresa Doherty. My grandfather was Martin Doherty, James Doherty was my uncle. My father was Bernard Doherty, James Doherty's brother. What your mother said I think was true. Martin came home for sure and bought the farm in Cartymore. I think Edward came home with Martin, but returned to the states. Martin stayed and married Mary Morrisey from Roscommon. They had 13 children as far as I know. I took note of most of the childrens names. Martin and Mary are buried in the graveyard in Athenry with your grandfather. The farmhouse is still there and some relatives live in and around Athenry. I would love to know the history of your grandfather and his 4 brothers who left Ireland just after the famine. I often think of them and how they got on in the states. It is lovely to know that you are a decedent of those brave men.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: smartie-pants on Friday 03 March 17 16:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Teresa, I think I met you at my aunts house  😯 She lives on the farm by the old house. I don't know anything of their history but I'm trying to find out. I couldn't even tell you how many brothers or sisters my grandfather had. Unfortunately I never got to meet him, he passed away in the 70's, I came along 20 years later. I know one our relatives has done the family tree and im doing my level best to find it on the internet. It's amazing we have cousins we don't even know about 😯
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Gorman lough on Thursday 16 March 17 15:38 GMT (UK)
Hi there, yes I remember you now! I had thought you were a relative from the U.S.! Its great that you have an interest. If you find any information please post it here. I would love to trace some of the relatives in the States.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Mayomom on Friday 15 September 17 18:21 BST (UK)
I was wondering if any of you did the Ancestry DNA test? I really believe there may be some connection. I am trying to see if John Doherty, Patrick Doherty (died 1900), Charles Doherty or Anne Doherty all listed as children of a Mary Doherty nee: unknown is known to any of you? Mary Doherty and her husband could have had more children also that I am unaware of. Mary lived with John her son during the 1901 census and John is listed as si glue on the 1911 census. I can't seem to find out where any of them are buried in Athenry. I know her son Patrick that died had three sons and a daughter.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Saturday 25 July 20 11:18 BST (UK)
Hi everyone, I wonder is anyone still researching this line? I'm taking another look at it now after a few years of a break. Have been searching the ancestry records today trying to find  any records of the Doherty brothers going to America. There is one record for John Doherty from athenry. And Charles h Doherty is a familiar name to me. From what I can remember I think he was on some record as having the land near where the Grexxxxh family are now (× out as I cant mention living people here) wonder is he a brother? Would love to tie it back to donegal that would be amazing
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Saturday 25 July 20 14:06 BST (UK)
Think I've found the possible 4 brothers names. Martin,  John , Edmund and Patrick all  born between 1864 and 1874
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Saturday 25 July 20 18:10 BST (UK)
Think I have found Martin's passage America. Looks right. He arrived in New York on the ship named the City of Paris. The ship departed from liverpool and queenstown. It arrived in New York on the 22nd of Feb 1883. He was around 19 years old.
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Sunday 26 July 20 00:43 BST (UK)
Martin and Mary Doherty actually got married out in America!! Amazing! 14 Sept 1898 in Watertown which I think is in Massachusetts
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Sunday 26 July 20 01:31 BST (UK)
Mary Doherty nee Mullins died on19th Feb 1928 and is buried In kilskeagh
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 26 July 20 12:08 BST (UK)
Mary Doherty nee Mullins died on19th Feb 1928 and is buried In kilskeagh

Is this your Mary who died at Cartymore?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1928/04951/4346325.pdf

Is this where she is buried- the townland of Kilskeagh now bisected by the M17?
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/clare/athenry/belleville/kilskeagh/

KG

Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Sunday 26 July 20 17:10 BST (UK)
Yes that's her.  I took a drive down that road today to see if I could spot the graveyard. Would they have gone through a graveyard  to build the road  :'(
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 27 July 20 10:25 BST (UK)

Have a look at these maps.

Rathfee townland
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/clare/lackagh/deerpark/rathfee/

It borders to its east Kilskeagh, and right on the eastern edge of Rathfee is Kilskeagh Church and Burial Ground. There is no sign of any other graveyard in Kilskeagh.

From Geohive (OSi), there are the following:
Historic Map 25 inch (1888-1913)
Digital Globe 2011-2013
Cassini 6 inch

https://bit.ly/3f0ZXyj
https://bit.ly/30R26HP
https://bit.ly/3f3Rb2D

These give the location of the ruined Kilskeagh church and burial ground in a forested area. There appears to be no path or road to it.

KG
Title: Re: doherty athenry
Post by: Monivea on Monday 27 July 20 11:18 BST (UK)
Mary Doherty nee Morris, Martin Dohertys wife was from roscommon her parents were Thomas Morris and Mary Callary according to her marriage cert. Going to look more into that side. I've found a marriage for Thomas Morris and honor callery but not for Mary yet.