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Title: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: lynneg on Friday 10 September 10 07:14 BST (UK)
Hi I have hit a very solid brick wall with my John Sutherland. He arrived in Australia as crew on the Star of the Sea in 1876. What I do have are his parents as listed on his 1887 Australian marriage certificate father was Daniel Sutherland - sailor and mother Ann Blanche....(no surname listed). John was from Wick and he was 43.
I have tried Scotlands People for his birth and parents marriage but have come up blank, now I do not know where to look next. I would like to be able to confirm John's details and see if there were any siblings.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Lynne
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: ev on Friday 10 September 10 12:25 BST (UK)
hi Lynne  :)

welcome to rootschat

the IGI has -
john sutherland born 17th jan. 1839 mid and south yell shetland
parents donald sutherland and ann blance
donald and daniel were often interchangeable

ev
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: lynneg on Friday 10 September 10 13:17 BST (UK)
Hi ev, thankyou for your very quick response. i am off to investigate. lynne :)
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 10 September 10 15:20 BST (UK)
Hi Lynne,
Welcome from me also :)
1841 Census
Mid Yell and South Yell,
Orkey and Shetland 5/7/580
John Blance, 70, male, Fisherman
Arthur BLANCE, 30
Ann Blance, 25
Helen JOHNSON, 6
John SUTHERLAND, 2
All born Orkey and Shetland

1851 has;
John BLANCE, 82, Aged Fisherman and Farmer, born Westsandwick
ANN Blance, 38, Daughter, born Yell, South
Hellen JOHNSON, 16, Great Grandchild
John SUTHERLAND, 13, Great Grandchild
Laurence JOHNSON, 8, Great Grandchild
I find it hard to understand Scottish Census, but all the Children have Great Grandchild then (Grandchild) in brackets. All are indexed as Mother Ann Blance.

Trish :)


Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 10 September 10 15:40 BST (UK)
From Familysearch Pilot;
Ann Barbra BLANCE, Christened/Baptised 13 May 1810, Mid and South Yell, Shetland, Scotland.
Father JOHN
Probable Siblings;
OLLA, 13 November 1801
WILLIAM, 17 May 1805
ROBERT, 15 November 1807
THEDOR, 01 October 1810

Possible Marriage;
John BLANCE
Jean SCOLLAY, 02 February 1801, Mid and South Yell, Shetland, Scotland

All these are on Familysearch Pilot and the IGI, Extracted.

Also a possible for Donald SUTHERLAND, 22 August 1809, Mid and South Yell, Shetland, Father ROBERT
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 10 September 10 15:54 BST (UK)
John BLANCE is born c 1769 according to the 1851 Census; possble Christening from IGI, 01 July 1770 Mid and South Yell, Shetland,  to OLIVER Blance.

1861 census Ann Blance is a Wool Spinner living alone.
EDIT;
She is still alive 1871/1881 where she is born c 1810.
The Family Tree I found and posted info below has her dying 05 February 1893, Yell.
It does not appear that she married any of the Fathers of her Children.
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 10 September 10 16:02 BST (UK)
Just found a Family Tree with Ann on it.
They have Donald Sutherland 1815-1842, no extra info on him.
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: lynneg on Saturday 11 September 10 07:17 BST (UK)
Hi Trish, thank you for your help. I am beginning to understand why John Sutherland was a mystery man to his family. Lynne
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 September 10 07:58 BST (UK)
At least Lynne she named the Children after their Fathers ;)
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: cobbandquick on Saturday 18 September 10 02:27 BST (UK)
Does any one have any info re a John Sutherland from nz.
"Mr Quicks grandfather was a fairly high up officer in the Engish army I think by the name of John sutherland who was granted a parcel of land in New Zealand which was latter sold and is now where Christchurch now stands"[/i][/i][/i]
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 20 September 10 16:02 BST (UK)
Hi cobbandquick,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
When and where was "Mr Quick" born?
Do you have his Parents names ?

Trish
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: lynneg on Wednesday 18 October 17 01:11 BST (UK)
Hi just a quick update on John Sutherland. He was  born in 1839 to Donald Sutherland and Ann Barbara Blance of Mid and South Yell. A DNA test showed that this family is a strong match. My husband showed as 12% Scandinavian. Thank you to ev and trish1120 for pointing me in the right direction.
Title: Re: John Sutherland born abt 1844 in Wick
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 18 October 17 11:32 BST (UK)
Thats a great result and thanks for updating us :)