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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: 001uk on Saturday 11 September 10 17:33 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have a hugely important family photo which at best can be described as in grim condition.
Please can anyone improve it for me? I can submit a better scan if need be.
I'd be MOST grateful for any renovation.
Thank you in advance.
P.S.
I believe the photo is of a London Police football team. On the football is painted "K.P.F.C. 1911-12". If anyone can offer more info: where was the KP, any names of people I'd be very interested to know. Feel free to use this image!
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is it definitely KP not RP?
There is a Kiveton Park Football Club (formed 1892) but that's Sheffield not London and is connected with a colliery not with the police.
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Hi,
Yes it's definitely K.P.
I have always been told that it is a police team but that's something passed down the family through the years (so it's quite possibly wrong)!
The chap to the right of the player wearing the striped shirt has a uniform on with a chain but no lapel badges...he could be anything, come to think of it, from a prison guard to a postman.
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Could it be Kent Police? Maybe a team that was based on the London outskirts but in Kent.?
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I googled 'KPFC 1911' and up came a posting on Cousin Connect - that may have been you, but if not it seems someone else is looking for this Police football team.
ETA - love the little dog on the last lap on the right!
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Could it be Kent Police? Maybe a team that was based on the London outskirts but in Kent.?
Hi Cheryl16
Could be! I'll add it to my list.
Thanks for reply.
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I googled 'KPFC 1911' and up came a posting on Cousin Connect - that may have been you, but if not it seems someone else is looking for this Police football team.
ETA - love the little dog on the last lap on the right!
Hi HeatherLynne,
Yes it's my posting.
An own gaol...perhaps
Thanks for trying.
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Possibly Kingston Police Football Club?
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Can you rescan with out compressing ?
Although you have scanned at a very high 1200dpi it appears to have been badly compressed and is very small physically (less then half an inch). This is making the facial features very hard to see so they can be restored.
If you had trouble resizing there is a very good tutorial here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,372537.0.html
Irene
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Hello Irene,
Thank you very much for your reply and advice.
I'll have another go at scanning. I've inherited a much more advanced scanner than the one I previously used and haven't quite got to grips with it yet.
I'll check the link you kindly supplied.
PS Have attached a new scan at 496.5 KB and scanned at 1200 dpi. Hope this works. (Apparently this machine will scan up to 12800 !)
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Possibly Kingston Police Football Club?
Howdy kizmiaz
Thanks for your suggestion. All gratefully received.I'll add this to the list. We'll get there one day.
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The Metropolitan Police area is split up into Divisions which are known by letters.
When the Met was founded in 1829 K Division was West Ham and surrounding area. Over the years the boundary has changed. Can you associate the photo with an area? Perhaps your family lived in what was then the K District? It stretches some way today so don’t just think West Ham.
It’s just possible that each Division fielded a football team against the other Divisions. I would have thought it would have said ‘K Div PFC’ on the ball, but maybe that wouldn’t fit on.
The Metropolitan Police Athletic Association organises all the sporting activities and I suggest you contact them. They might just recognise or even still have that trophy. The inscriptions might just give you the names in the photo.
The Metropolitan Police Football Club wasn’t formed until 1919 to play against teams outside the Police, so that can’t be the Met team. Obviously Policemen played football before that, so if it’s a Met Police team then it’s something smaller and more local.
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Hello Craig M
Thank you for your interesting reply. I have actually been in touch with the Metropolitan Police Athletic Association and they had no knowledge of the KPFC. Possibly it was a little early for their records.
The only other thing I know about the card is that one of the players was more than likely on patrol in the Abbey Road area of London NW6 (where my grandmother was in service).
Having looked at the map I now see Kilburn was just a short distance away. Could it be Kilburn Police FC or Kilburn Park? I fancy the former.
IF that's so all I need now are the names of the chaps in the photo!
Thanks again
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Hi,
Regarding restoring the photo. I will do my best for you but give me a couple of days.
Allfulcher
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Thank you Allfulcher.very kind of you.
I'm sure it would take me a couple of years!
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I have just had an idea... if you know that one of the people in the picture was on patrol in the Abbey Road area, have you thought about getting in touch with the local paper and asking them to run an " who is this?" article. They crop up in our local paper fairly regularly. Someone might see who can help.
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thats a good idea, our local paper does that too :)
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Sorry just a mock up toshow willing
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Hello Emjaybee
Might be a mock up to you but it's amazing to me!! A big thank you. I can imagine it must have taken a lot of work.
I appreciate your efforts~thanks again
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Cheryl16 that's a BRILLIANT idea! Thank you....I shall seek out the appropriate newspaper and submit a photo. I understand a couple of restorers are working on the image so once a suitable one comes along I'll be on the case ASAP.
Thanks again.
I have just had an idea... if you know that one of the people in the picture was on patrol in the Abbey Road area, have you thought about getting in touch with the local paper and asking them to run an " who is this?" article. They crop up in our local paper fairly regularly. Someone might see who can help.
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Hi,
Deleted previous restore, I've made a couple of tweaks. Finals attached.
Cheers, David.
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Hello David,
Amazing results. I cannot believe the difference and that it's all possible. Thank you very much for your work which has made a grotty specimen of family history into something we can now relish and work from.
I'm most grateful.
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:) Just to let you know that i dont normally have time for this sort of thing as it keeps me busy during my day job restoring old photos but this one caught my eye and I am working on it. Here is where I am at so far. I am working a little bit a time between jobs.
Image link removed, image no longer available
This is just the low res version and the finished version should be available soon, Ill let you have it when im done!
Kind Regards
Neil Rhodes
Hello David,
Amazing results. I cannot believe the difference and that it's all possible. Thank you very much for your work which has made a grotty specimen of family history into something we can now relish and work from.
I'm most grateful.
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001UK very sorry but during the time here and my last post I had some computer trouble and have lost the restore! Hope you can use what i did so far.
Terry Hastie - If I have a photo thats a passport photo thats 1 inch square but really god quality and I can scan at your recommended 300dpi but it want it reproduced to 10x8? how does that work?
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This photo of mine is 2" by 1 1/2" ( I just went and measured it) scanned at 300 and the restores printed out just dandy at a MUCH large size.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,386160.0.html
Terry
Pity you lost the restore ;)
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Thank you for bringing this back to the top :D
It may take a while but I'll have a go. This is the type of challenge I enjoy. Don't know why I never came back to it
Irene
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agree Irene, I know I got around half way through this one but then moved and am no longer in the same place as my pc with all my old work on...
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hey Im in the middle of restoring the image.... further note, Im sorry for the message I sent earlier on
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A very low res version of what I did, hope you like it
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my one
Irene
(I didn't see any hats ???)
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I saw some parts that may have possibly be hats, they would have warn hats like that at that time
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Nice piece of work Irene :)
Can't see hats either...and don't think a football team would have worn them...even then ??? :-\
Terry
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of course they would have, but it shouldnt really matter if they were wearing them or not