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Title: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 24 February 09 15:21 GMT (UK)
Hi.  Iam trying to find members of the Walsh side of my family.  I will be visiting Wexford end of March hoping to track down my elusive grandads kin folk.  The family were living in King Street in 1882 when he was born.  His mother was Mary Furlong, his father John Walsh a ships captain I believe.  I have tried many times on ancetry, so I am now hoping I can do better on this site.  I know he had a brother James and we think there was also a Thomas but there the trail goes cold.  ........   I now know grandads family where living in 1 Castlehill Street according to the 1901 census.  He had brothers William, James and Francis.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: nickr90 on Tuesday 24 February 09 18:41 GMT (UK)
What was your grandfather's name? I have a Walsh family with John, Thomas and James but these are fairly common christian names. John was born 1862 and married Margaret Daly. Thomas 1891
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 24 February 09 20:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,  My grandfather was John Joseph.  I have his birth certificate but he and Gran where married outside Wexford county and we don't have a certificate which would give his address in 1905.  Frustrating as they lived with us in Liverpool till their deaths but he never talked of his family.  Falling out of some sort.  I was hoping his photo might show a family resemblance to someone.   Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: kapajomi on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:27 GMT (UK)
I could not find any that would match in Wexford Town and this is only a possible in the 1901 census.
Kellystown Adamstown Bantry Wexford Household Walsh John(60) farmer Maryanne(55) wife-Mary(29)-James(27)-Patrick(25)--Anne(24)-Ellen(23)-Thomas(21)-John(14) 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 24 February 09 23:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks for replying but I know my Gt.grandfather was a seafarer.  I think grandad could have been at sea himself at the time of the census and I suppose the same thing could have applied to his father.  Hopefully I can find some more family information in the church baptism records on my visit next month.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: enfield on Wednesday 25 February 09 14:00 GMT (UK)
WALSH, MICHAEL. Rank: Stoker 1st Class. Regiment or Service: Royal Navy. Unit: H. M. S. "Lobelia. " Age at Death: 28. Date of Death: 18-January-1919. Service No: K/31017. Supplementary information; Son of Matthew and Mary Anne Walsh of Rochestown, Taghmon, Co. Wexford. Grave or Memorial Reference: 36. Cemetery: Piraeus Naval and Air Consular Cemetery in Greece.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 25 February 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that.  As I said, I will be going to Wexford next month.  Plan is to find Granddad's baptismal record and then check a few years before and after to find his siblings.  I will hold on to each offering of info as one may just be the piece that solves the puzzle.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: kapajomi on Wednesday 25 February 09 16:37 GMT (UK)
Here is one family of Walsh on Rowe St. in 1901

Wexford T./Row St. Lower St. Iberius Forth Wexford Household Walsh John(52) harness making hardware shop/ Christina(23)wife-Mary(2)-Josephine(5months)-Mary Howlin(36)servant-Ellen Drynn?(44)servant 

I thought I did all of Wexford Town for the 1901 census but may have missed an Upper Rowe St. Maybe a local would know if one there. Joan
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 25 February 09 16:53 GMT (UK)
Hello Joan.  I did look through the 1901 census on my last visit but the only one  I found was Mary Walsh, widow.  Also a daughter Johanne and a son Patrick.  Possible John Walsh snr. had died before the census.  My mother did mention visiting her grandmother as a child but no mention of grandfather.  If the baptism records show the two new names, I am away.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: manus on Monday 02 March 09 20:21 GMT (UK)
hi rattler
I found this if it's any good to you.

James Walsh died 31 March 1829 age 53 years
also his Daughter Mary Walsh died 11 Feb 1829 age 23 years
Also his son Peter Walsh died 10 June 1834 age 20 years

At Monaseed Cemetery St Patricks Wexford

Regards Manus 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 03 March 09 10:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Manus.  I think that they might be from the generation before grandad.  He was born 1882.  I am really looking forward to getting to the baptism records as then I should find out how many siblings he had.  At the moment, I don't know if he was the oldest, youngest or somewhere in between.  4 weeks today I may just begin to unravel my Walsh family.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 17 March 09 17:08 GMT (UK)
HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY to all here.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Plover on Monday 20 April 09 23:10 BST (UK)
Hi Anne
I have just discovered Rootschat and your correspondance when looking up my grt grandfather Capt Thomas (better known as Lanigan) Walsh of Wexford. He had sons including Thomas, James (who jumped ship in S. Africa) and Capt Pat, who was my grandfather. I have photos of Lanigan, James, Thomas and Pat. There were other brothers and sisters also.
Can this be of any use to you.
Plover

Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Saturday 25 April 09 20:08 BST (UK)
Hi.  I have just arrived home from Cornwall, so have only just opened your message.  I don't think Lanigan would be Grandad's father as his name was John.  I have a picture I was given by another Walsh of a Lanigan.  He has a great beard.   I didn't get very far with my search in Wexford, but am waiting for a birth certificate to arrive in the hope that it will belong to his brother Thomas.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: talmid on Tuesday 05 May 09 06:59 BST (UK)
Hi, have just read your message re having photos of Lanigan Walsh, and others. Lanigan was my husband's great grandfather, "via" James, who jumped ship in South Africa. Would it be possible to get copies of photos of the older Walshes? You could send them to my e-mail address - (*), if that would be possible. Have only recently found this web site. One of my sons has asked me to do research into our branch of the Walshes of Wexford.
Thanks. Raine (South Africa)

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Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 05 May 09 09:59 BST (UK)
I was sent one picture of Lanigan and will try to upload it here.  This is always touch and go with me. I have a little info somewhere so will try to post it later.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 05 May 09 10:34 BST (UK)
Not much information I'm afraid.  It simply said he was' one of the fine Wexford gentlemen who sailed the ships and sang the songs of Wexford Coast'.  I think he lived in William Street, Wexford Town and is in the 1901 census.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 05 May 09 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi.  I was going through the other Wexford pages and on page 2 there is a post called 'Songs of Wexford' Coast and Captain Lanigan Walsh.  Lot's more info.  Check it out. Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Plover on Monday 11 May 09 22:47 BST (UK)
Hi Raine,
Sorry for delay in replying. Internet problems!
It looks like your husband and I are second cousins. Lanigan was my mother's grandfather. I was born and grew up in Wexford and now live about an hour away. My sister is our "expert" on family and relations.
I cannot send any emails at this time as yr email address was blocked by rootschat. It is only possible after we exchange a number of messages, so this is a start.
Plover
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: talmid on Tuesday 12 May 09 17:29 BST (UK)
Greetings - thanks for responding. look forward to the time that the block is lifted and we can exchange information via e-mail.
Best regards
Raine
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 May 09 18:41 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Plover on Sunday 17 May 09 15:39 BST (UK)
Hi Raine
After a few more messages we should be able to exchange private messages via rootschat.  Plover
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: MirPG on Tuesday 19 May 09 16:27 BST (UK)
HI Raine,
Capt. Tom or Lanigan Walsh lived in No.3 William Street, Wexford. His son Joe (a lighthouse keeper) & wife Lizzie and family later lived in No 1.  However, they have all moved from the Street now and N0. 3 was a B&B.  My late Aunt Kitty and her cousin Mary from Africa stayed  there some years ago while Mary was on a visit to Ireland. I think that would have been in the 1980's.   Lanigan was married to Mary Codd, 1st cousin of the mother of well known song writer Thomas Moore. There is a small booklet on the seafaring families of Wexford and a number of the Walsh family are mentioned in it, including my grandfather Pat. However I do not have a copy of it. My late Aunt Kitty,knew and was in touch with members of the family in Africa while she worked on the Cunard Liners that visited there and her daughter has met members of Alice's family while there a few years ago.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Summerhill on Wednesday 03 June 09 22:24 BST (UK)
Rattler,The 1911 census for Co. Wexford is now on line.I had a wee look and indeed there are walsh's listed in Bannow on that census.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 03 June 09 22:28 BST (UK)
Thanks, I have been waiting for that to happen. Will make it a good deal easier for those of us living outside Ireland.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: MirPG on Thursday 04 June 09 16:30 BST (UK)
Hi Raine,
I forgot to mention in my last email that Lanigan also had a son Willie (William) who lived with his wife Maggie in The Faythe in Wexford Town with their family.  I only knew one Fr. Pat (A P.P. in Bolton, England.) but there were other boys in the family.  Lanigan had daughters also but I did not know them.  My Mother went on holidays as a child to cousins nearby in Swan View.  They may have been the Hogans. I had an uncle Billy a seaman, who was drowned age 21 in Argentia. I have a first cousin Billy and The Irish Olympic Boxing Manager is also another Billy in the family.
I spoke with my cousin Terry in England last week and told her of this website.  She has visited Alice's family in Capetown and still has contact with them.  Another counsin's husband has done a Family Tree which I have.  I will be in touch again.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: talmid on Saturday 06 June 09 08:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for further information. Am really getting behind with putting together all the information that I am being given. Thank you so much for all the input.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 09 June 09 14:36 BST (UK)
Still not given up on my Walsh connections.  I received the birth certificate for Thomas Walsh, born 1874 with parents John Walsh and Mary Furlong.  Had been told maybe granddad (John Joseph) was a late arrival in 1882.  Found a Thomas Walsh in the 1911 census, 38, same age as the birth certificate I have.  He lived in 4 Paradise Row with wife Mary and 3 daughters.  He is shown as a painter.  Does he belong to any other Walsh who uses this site. Also a James Walsh, age 52, in 9 Paradise Row married to Mary Anne.  Grandad had brothers by that name.  Fingers crossed as always, Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Liz P on Tuesday 25 August 09 16:20 BST (UK)
Hi Raine

I have just found this site it is brilliant.    Lannigan was my greatgrandfather.   My grandfather was Joe Walsh 1 william st.    We have just had a Walsh family reunion in Wexford and I have attached a photo taken of Joe's surviving children - Eilish, Joe and Patty (my mum).   I see my cousin Tony is also a member so we will be able to fill you in on any info you might need.

My mum is quiet good at remembering the names and connections to the past.     This is brilliant to chat to cousins we havent met.   

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Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Plover on Tuesday 25 August 09 23:57 BST (UK)
Hi Liz P
Good to hear from you. Pity it's a bit late for the party/get together !
Your photos were removed. However after a few more messages on this site we can exchange addresses and photos. I remember my mother speaking of her uncle Joe, so I would like a photo of him to add to my collection. Capt Pat was my grandfather.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Plover
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 26 August 09 12:11 BST (UK)
Hi from a happy lady.  Have just received the marriage certificate for my grandparents, John Walsh and Mary Anne O'Rourke.  They were married 10th October 1906 atSt Nicholas Church, Francis Street, Dublin.  It has answered one question but I was hoping to find Grandads address in Wexford Town but it gives a Block, New Bride Street, Dublin for both.  Still I have a date I can now put in the tree for their marriage.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Kevin W on Tuesday 01 September 09 10:25 BST (UK)
Hi Liz P

I am also a descendant of Lanigan Walsh living in Cape Town, South Africa. I met your grandparents Joe and Lizzie when I visited Wexford in 1976 and 1977. Stayed at 3 William St in 1976.  Also met Joe Jnr and Jenny.

Am currently corresponding with others of the Walsh clan in Wexford.  Would like to hear fom you.

Regards

Kevin
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: MaryA on Tuesday 01 September 09 14:37 BST (UK)
Hi to all you Walshes, I'm throwing in a little bit in case it's of any use to you, a little too far distant from my own tree really.

A stone in The Grange Cemetery, Wexford reads

"Erected by Alice Walsh in memory of her father William Lambert who died July
1st 1861 aged 50 years also he mother Alice Lambert who died Oct 6th 1881
aged 70 years."

Alice Lambert is my great grandmother whose maiden name was Furlong.  Amongst William and Alice's children was Alice, the youngest, born and christened 12th Oct 1848, godparents Godparents - Nicholas Hayes and Mary Petit.

She obviously married "somebody" Walsh but his name is not known, however, family stories say that their son went to be a sheep farmer in the Falkland Islands.

This is my total knowledge of the Walshes but since the name Furlong has been mentioned in this thread I thought this little bit might help.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Liz P on Tuesday 01 September 09 16:05 BST (UK)
Hi Kevin W

Nice to hear from you.   I know my cousin Tony has been communicating with you.   His mother --- is my mothers sister.    I remember my mum telling me that she met one of your family when she was home on holiday one time.    I have one son (---) and two daughters --- .     My daughters find it facinating that we have relations in South Africa - that we have never met.    Cant wait to be able to send photo's etc.,

Its great to think using this media that we can chat to relations we have never met.

Well keep talking

Regards

Liz

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Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Liz P on Tuesday 01 September 09 16:10 BST (UK)
Hi Plover

Great to hear from you.   Where are you based are you one of the Walsh's in Kilmore?

Sorry about the reunion, it was organised by the cousins in the UK and all done on facebook it ended up no-one knew what was happening.      anyway it was a test run, and hopefully we are going to organise a big Walsh reunion in the future for everyone.

that will take some organising ha ha someone said we would need to do it on Carne beach as its the only place we would all fit ha ha.

Anyway great to hear from you and let me know what Walsh's you are.

Regards


Liz
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Plover on Wednesday 02 September 09 10:06 BST (UK)
Hi Liz
Great to hear from you. Yes, I am from Kilmore Quay. My mother was Mary Walsh (known to all as "Dolly"), daughter of Capt Pat, g/daughter of Capt Lanigan. My cousin Billy lives in the home place in the Quay. I now live up the road in west Wicklow. I think Ballyteige beach might be just big enough for a reunion of this family!
Will be in contact. Happy birthday to Katrina.

Plover
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Leabhair on Saturday 31 October 09 16:10 GMT (UK)
Dear Rattler,

There was a Captain Matthew Walsh from Wexford in the early 19th century.  He was married in 1797 to a Catherine Parle, I believe.  He was very active and eeven sailed to Quebec.  I think he died in the 1820's.  He had a son named Michael who was also involved with the sea
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Thursday 31 December 09 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hello Leabhair.  My computer collapsed  a while ago and I am just getting back to all the sites I have left messages on.  Not sure if Michael is from Grandads family.  My gt.grandfather was John, proberbly born aroun 1840-50 so Michael could be from the generation before.  I am off to Wexford end of March so who knows, I may find another bit of the Walsh zigsaw.  Happy Christmas and hope the new year is a good one for all readers.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Leabhair on Saturday 02 January 10 03:38 GMT (UK)
Dear Anne,

Thanks for the response.  I totally forgot that I went to this site.  The reason why I went on line was because I will soon be selling a diary kept by Mr. Walsh to the National Library of Ireland.  I have been very lax on doing the preliminary research to better explain what it is and can tell you very little at present.

Anything I obtain of worth is always offerred to the National Library first, if the item belongs in Ireland.  I gave them my own collection on the Irish in America in memory of my parents.  It numbers over  5100 titles.  If you are interested in such things, you can go to www.nli.ie and under author type in Griffin, Stephen.  Hopefully, this Walsh will be a relative.

Happy New Year


"Leabhair"  Steve Griffin
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Saturday 02 January 10 12:06 GMT (UK)
Hello Steve.  I tried the site but could not find author.  I will keep trying.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Leabhair on Saturday 02 January 10 13:40 GMT (UK)
Dear Anne,

Once you get onto the NLI site, click on books, and under books, you will see author, then type in Griffin, Stephen  That is how they list the books in my collection.  I also have an annotated list of the books, written in Word, which I could send to you if you wish

Regards

Steve
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: kevin walsh on Thursday 04 February 10 11:50 GMT (UK)
hi everyone my name is kevin walsh and im a great great grandson of thomas lanigan walsh my great grandfather was his son willie (william) walsh of the Faythe his wife was maggie nee(stafford) and there oldest son willie walsh of wolfetone villas was my grandfather and my  father is liam(william) walsh also of wolfetone villas now i also have a brother called billy (william) the Irish boxing coach and i also have at least two first cousins called william,i came across this site by chance my father seems to have a life time of knowledge on family and if we can be of help to anyone feel free to let us know,i have a few things to share with you,thomas lanigan walsh was a fine big healty man in his mid 90s and one day he was coming out of the Friary Church and crossing the road he was knocked down by a horse & cart my father said he didnt die but he was never the same and after a year to two year he did die at the age of 97,now on a happier note how he got the name Lanigan the story goes that there was a famous singer of the day called Lanigan----------? he was to play a concert in the Theatre Royal in Wexford But for some reason he didnt show and i gess to avoid a riot  Thomas Walsh got up onto the stage and entertained the audience so he was called Lanigan ever since that day. Before i go there is one other thing while glancing through this site i came across a note from a gentleman whos name escapes me at the moment  but he thaught he had picked up the E on the end of Walshe  along the way but i would like to let him know that  it was always there but for some reason it was lost in time ,my fathers birth cert has an E at the end of  Walshe. BEST REGARDS Kevin Walsh
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: MirPG on Thursday 04 February 10 17:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Kevin, Good to hear from another Walshe, yes my Mother used the "e" also. Her father was Capt. Pat and a brother of Willie of the Faythe. whom I met as a child, together with his wife Maggie. It will be great to be filled in on  the tree on your side of the family. Kevin in South Africa has been looking for that information and will be delighted to hear from you.  He has an awful lot done on the tree to date. Looking forward to hearing from you again soon.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Kevin W on Friday 05 February 10 03:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Kevin

My grandfather was James (Bressie) Walsh who came to South Africa in 1900/1901. I am in contact with descendants of the families of Willie, Pat, Joe and Thomas. I met your great grandfather Willie in 1976 when I visited Wexford. I would love to hear from you.

Kevin Whyte

Cape Town
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: kevin walsh on Friday 12 February 10 10:47 GMT (UK)
message for mirpg & kevin whyte it is great to hear from family ,im sorry it took me untill now to get back but ive been spreading the word,i am very excited to hear from you both,in wexford no matter how distant a walsh cousin there still your cousin, kevin i have a question do you have a brother jimmy living in ireland because my father has met a james /jimmy whyte from cape town on a couple of occasions,i have some info that i know will help,my brother billy and cousin Toddy walsh have come on board and im going to direct them to this site Toddy is my grandfathers nephew son of Anthony/Tony who is another son of Willie (The Faythe) i think they will have a lot of knowledge between them,i also might be able to get a lot of info myself we have a cousin in Manchester (uk) who about 10 years ago started to do a family tree and i did some foot work for him,he is another grandson of Willie (The Faythe)through Willies son Kevin so im in the prosess of contacting him,We would love to no more about james and how he managed when he left the ship it must have been very frightening so far from home we can only imagine,mirpg dont feel left out of course i would also love to hear of your side of the family but it just took me two hours to type this much im a bit of a computer virgin anything u could tell us would be great ,maybe your full name to start with ha ha talk again soon cozez kevin walsh
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Kevin W on Friday 12 February 10 11:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Kevin

MirPG is Miriam Gavin a granddaughter of Capt Pat Walsh of Kilmore Quay. I have emailed you and your brother Billy.  Yes, my brother Jimmy lives in Athlone, Co Westmeath.
We have much information to share. Therefore, check your respective e-mails and reply directly to me. Thanks.

Regards

Kevin Whyte
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 12 February 10 12:28 GMT (UK)
New members generally need 3 posts to use PM (personal message) system so Kevin might have to make 1 more post before viewing PM and respending.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Thursday 29 July 10 12:26 BST (UK)
Hello all Walsh/Walshe.  I have been through the 1901 census again and this time I found what appears to be my grandfather and his family.  They lived at 1 Castlehill Street, Wexford Urban 2.  His parents, John and Mary were 40 yrs.  Grandad 18 which is correct as he was born March 1882.  Also shown are William 15, James 13 and Frances 9.  I think he had a brother Tom.  I found a Thomas on the 1911 census, 31,  married and living at 2 Still Lane.  I could not find my great grandparents in that census.  Hope the address will link me to others from same branch of the Walsh family.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Monday 09 August 10 00:14 BST (UK)
Hi, another break through with my Walsh family.  My grandfather had a brother James.  In the 1901 census he was 13 giving his birth year 1888.  I have been told today that he went to South Africa.  I have seen mention of a James Walsh skipping ship in S. Africa.  Could they be the same people. 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Sunday 22 August 10 11:37 BST (UK)
I don't know if my Walshs are connected as there are so many in the area. I have
Richard Walsh (e) born in 1870s who married Catherine Wickham
they have 13 children Aria/ John/ Mary/Ann/ Anastasia/ Catherine/ William aka Jes/ Richard/ Ellen/ Frances and my great grandmother Margaret

I know they were nealr all Rosslare lifeboat men and that richard had sons richard and Jim. 
Anastasia married John Pear
Vatherine married a Nevin
William (jess) married a Barry
Richard married a Doyle
Ellen married John Smith and had Richard who we lost contact with in the 80s

We know very little about this side og the family as my Grandad, Margaret Waks son died young.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Sunday 22 August 10 11:48 BST (UK)
Also just found some notes grandad left

Richard Walsh who married Catherine Wickham was very tall stary blue eyes and handsome although he lost an eye  young when shooting. he used to go shooting in Sloblands.

John Walsh, son of Richard Walsh and Catherine Wickham was a well known character in Rosslare, his funeral was huge, he was a bachelor small and handsome with the family trait of really blue eyes. An expert fisherman and seaman and a wit. He hed been a diver and gunnery instructo int he Navy and then served in the lifeboat taking part in the famous Fethard lifeboat recscue.

His sister Kate lived as a spinster in a small cottage in Hopeland

His other sister Anastasia married John Pear and was alway "giving out"!  Their son Bill was a  great boat builder.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Sunday 22 August 10 20:38 BST (UK)
I spotted your comment about the blue eyes.  I am trying to find more of my grandad, also John Walsh.  He was small with twinkling blue eyes.  I put a pic of him at the very start of this thread, hoping someone would spot a similarity with their Walshes.  I keep trying to get someone to claim him as one of theirs.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Monday 23 August 10 11:01 BST (UK)
Anne,
I know our John Walsh was a bachelor all his life and born roughly 1880s to 1890s, but some of his siblings had children named John Walsh too. Sadly I can't find their dates of birth what with the dodgy Irish records.
  I do know all the Walshs had the family trait of incredibly starey blue eyes which I have and my dad and his dad too. They intermarried a lot with the Wexford Wickhams too.
 Nearly all the Walsh men were lifeboat men in Wexford and Rosslare or Lightboat men. Have you checked to see if your John ws as well? I've ordered a book all about the wexford/rosslare lifeboats as it has some more info about our Walsh men in there.

Any info you can give me about your Walshs may help me any anecdotes, tales jobs etc. We have quite a few of the same about the Walshs in the same area and era here that may tie up...
looking forward to hearing from you
Clairex
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Monday 23 August 10 11:22 BST (UK)
Hi Claire.  Grandad was born March 1882 in King Street, Father John and mother Mary Furlong.  They lived there till he left school in 97-98.  In the 1901 census he is living with them in Castlehill Street.  There is no mention of the family in 1911 census but grandad was marrid by then and sailing from Liverpool.  He had brothers James, William and Francis, possibly Thomas.  Think his brother James stayed in S Africa after jumping ship.  The pic was taken in night before he died, December 1958. Is there a similarity in that friendly face.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Monday 23 August 10 11:23 BST (UK)
Grandad is the older man on left
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Wednesday 25 August 10 14:23 BST (UK)
now you mention it!  Have a contact in ireland looking into the Walshs with me at the moment, esp lifeboat men which our John and nearly all his family were, lifeboat men, lightboat men or ship builders. If he finds anything matching your I'll be sure to let you know.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 25 August 10 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi Claire.  My grandad, John Harpur was also in the rescue of the Mexico.  He was on the tug 'The Wexford' and I felt very proud to see his name on the monument.  Small world.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Wednesday 25 August 10 14:35 BST (UK)
blimey small world indeed. I was really moved reading the acount of the rescue, I think grandad's cousin and his in law jim duggan must have been mad or incredibly brave. I loved the anecdote about the loaf in the hole when their boat was leaking. We thought it was a family myth!!

Spookil still not knowing any of this we named out daughter Keeragh!!! Now that's wierd :-\  we intend to go and cisit the monument and the lifeboat station as their are walshs still working on it. My contact in Cork did some research olong your/my lines last year in clifebaot men so keep your fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Wexford Town - connections & tales
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Tuesday 14 September 10 14:57 BST (UK)
Still at a dead end with my Catherine Wickham marrying Richard Walsh can anyone suggest how I can track them in Wexford? :-\
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shorts on Tuesday 14 September 10 23:42 BST (UK)
Hi Rattler

It's possible that one of your relatives (Francis Walsh b 26/08/1890) is on the attached page taken from the baptism register (Bride St Church).

The sponsors are the entry at the bottom of the 2nd attachment.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shorts on Tuesday 14 September 10 23:49 BST (UK)
I have attached a more comprehensive copy of the first page.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Thursday 23 September 10 22:04 BST (UK)
I have Only just spotted the last message.  I found a Walsh family in the 1901 census living in Castlehill street.  It shows a Francis Walsh age 9 and a John age 18.  There were 2 more boys, William 15 and James 13.  The baptism record giving Mary Furlong as mother ties in with the census. Thank you.  Looks like a definite maybe.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Friday 08 October 10 10:27 BST (UK)
The1 Castlehill Street address is the right one.  I heard from the church in Dublin were my grandparents were married and the address Grandad gave was Castlehill Street.  I still can't find them in the 1911 census but at least I have another stepping stone. 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Friday 05 November 10 18:02 GMT (UK)
I was contacted today by a lady in America.     ((My grandfather(I'm 82)came from Wexford. His name was James, but he had sons named John, James Matthew & Edward. He would have been born about 1846. He married Catherine "Katy" O'Farrell. ))      I don't know for sure yet the name of my gt.gt.grandfather but James has been suggested.  Perhaps the names James and Kate O'Farrell ring bells with someone.  Anne
 
 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: carrieanne1 on Monday 06 December 10 17:15 GMT (UK)
Hi there! Looking for Walsh and Pithman.

My Great Grandparents Bridget Walsh 1901-1958 and Paul Pithman 1901-1983.

They had several children, some stayed in Wexford, and some moved to England, My grandmother  settled in and around London. I met family in Wexford in the mid 90s when I visited with my grandmother( daughter of Bridget and Paul -- also named Bridget, -- known as Brenda Pithman, born 1937, the youngest child who left Ireland at the age of 14. -- married Name Cox. We stayed with my nan's sister in Wolfe Tone villas, a few doors away, in the same street my nan Brenda grew up in. We spent most of our time with my nan's other sister -- Nan,( her name is Nan! ) who lived just around the corner, near the pub (can't remember what the pub was called ) We went there a couple of times. Most of aunt Nan's children live in Ireland! I managed to Trace Paul Pithman, his parents and siblings on the 1901 and 1911 irish census. The problem I have is tracing back further, and tracing Bridget's side of the family -- the Walsh's! I'm unable to get information on Bridget's Walsh's parent's and siblings, as my mother doesn't know. I just want to trace my ancestors as far back as I can go, and to learn more about my great grandmother Bridget Walsh, who was much loved by my grandmother Brenda.

Paul Pithman's parents were Paul and Annie. It has been known for their name to be spelt Pitman. Also Paul Pitman Jnr had another child out of wedlock!

 My great grandfather Paul Pithman's Siblings: Joseph, William, James, Thomas, Mary and Anastasia -- Their parents: Paul and Annie. ( Don't know Annie's Maiden name)

Thank you for taking time to read this.

Good Luck to you all in searching your history.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: dukeslane on Monday 06 December 10 20:11 GMT (UK)
hi carrieanne1
my mothers cousin married a thomas pitman her name is alice obrien i think they had one son michael
the obrien family lived in wolf tone villas and were related to the fenlons / bergins / moores / wilson
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Friday 21 October 11 23:18 BST (UK)
 I have
Richard Walsh  born in around 1850s  who married Catherine Wickham
they have 13 children Maria born first / John/ Mary/Ann/ Anastacia/ Catherine/ William aka Jes/ Richard/ Ellen/ Frances (fanny) and my great grandmother Margaret  Peg)

I know they were nearly all Rosslare lifeboat men and that Richard  and Catherine son Richard had sons richard and Jim. 

Anastasia married John Pear
Catherine married a  Mr Nevin
William (jess) married a  Ms Barry
Richard married a  Ms Doyle
Ellen married John Smith and had Richard who we lost contact with in the 80s
 
I have now tracked down Margaret's baptism 22nd April 1879 Parish: Tagoat, Diocese : Ferns, the sponsor is named as William Sheil.
I alos have  William (Jes) baptism, PArish:Tagoat, Diocese: Ferns 7th Jan 1877, sponsor is Patt Duggan ( Duggans are lifeboat men I believe.)

Are there any Tagoat parish records etc I may search to find the other baptisms or marriages? I assume Richard Walsh and catherine Wickham married roughly 1870 given they had many children around these dates.

Margaret and Peg worked at a boys boarding school in Wicklow for a time together. Peg had 3 children and 6 grandchiuldren

John Walsh was in the Navy, a diver and on one of the lifeboats.
 Frances had 5 children and 4 grandchildren

Richard Walsh was a lifeboat man as were his 2 sons Richard (coxswain and his own son yes you guessed it called Richard also a lifeboat man. The Duggans were the brothers in law) and Jim Walsh.  Richard has 4 children in all and 14 grandchildren.

William (Jess) Also a lifeboatman. He lived on a promontory at the mouth of Wexford Harbour which got washe daway and the harbour silted up . Not sure what this village was called..
 He lost his job as a lifeboat man and Coastguard and moved home with John.

Catherine (Kate) lived in a small cottage on the edge of Hopeland, a widow. Had 2 children 12 grandchildren

Anastacia ( ant) married John pear and had 2 children, her son Bill  was a great boat builder. She had 12 grandchildren

Phew! I'm still trawling the www trying to track them all down trying to find a lead to  Richard Walsh and Catherine Wickhams marriage. A clue to tell me where they married or are buried. Or who their parents were..
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rkwalsh on Tuesday 20 December 11 23:14 GMT (UK)
This may be way off of your Walsh clan, but here goes nothing. I have traced my ancestry back to my GG Grandfather Keyron Walsh born 1811, who married a Mary Dwyer. He emmigrated to Quebec Canada around 1825. On their gravestone Mary was said to be from Wexford. There was also a Oliver and a William Walsh. I think his father was a Richard Walsh married to an Ellen Dyer. I would be interested if there are any links to them
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Pop1899 on Friday 13 January 12 13:35 GMT (UK)
My Greatgrandfather was a Nicholas Walsh who was born in Kilmore in 1865, he joined the army and was stationed in Cork -Spike Island - where my grandfather was born. and was also stationed at the Curragh.
I believe his father was an Edmond Walsh - we have no information, about him, but I have seen some information o the Wexford resources of a Nicholas Walsh in 1770 baptism.
Could be a relation due to naming convention?

If anyone has any information about this line of the Walsh's I would be grateful.

Any elderly relative mentioned over thirty years ago that there was some connection with the Webbs of Gory and also Terrance McSweeney,long shot I know. Has anyone found a connection or was it just one of those fanciful stories
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Pop1899 on Wednesday 18 January 12 16:02 GMT (UK)
I tried to send an email to kilmoregeneology.com but it got bounced back

Further to my previous post here is some more information The people I am interested in is

Nicholas Walsh born 7th March 1865 to Edmond and Catherine Walsh (nee Cousins). Nicholas' birth Certificate has them residing in Crossfamoge.

I  have read that there was a baptism of Mary Ann Walsh in Kilmore to an Edmond and Catherine on 14th November 1847.

You also mentioned a note that there was a Mary Walsh born to same parents on 19th July 1854 in Ballyteigue.

Edmonds profession is a fisherman. Stated on Nicholas' birth certificate.

We also have some information that Nicholas was charged with being a destitute orphan in  August 1876 in Duncormick as both his parents wer both dead. We also have the names Willaim Boswell and HS Boyce connected to this. There is a note that he was licensed to a Mr McCormick Carpentry Department 30/4/188? and was readmitted on 31/5/81. We know that Nicholas went to the Artaine School, I do not have he dates to hand, I think from 1876 when he was eleven.

I have seen that there was a death of for an Edmond Walsh in 1874 and that he was born on 1822/25. Is there any information about this.

Is there anywhere that I could search for the court records of Nicholas' commital as my searches so far have drawn a blank. Where might I find a death certificate for Edmond and his wife Catherine.

An elderly aunt said that Nicholas' parent were buried on the island.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 18 January 12 16:08 GMT (UK)
.....
I have seen that there was a death of for an Edmond Walsh in 1874 and that he was born on 1822/25. Is there any information about this.
....
Where might I find a death certificate for Edmond and his wife Catherine.
....

Registration of deaths commenced in 1864, and you can search an Index to these on the FamilySearch website. Once you find possible matches you can order research certs (by post) from the GRO. Walsh is quite a common surname so it may not be easy to find the correct deaths without some further clues..

 Irish BMD Index (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c8o/) (FamilySearch)

 Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
 Details included on a Death Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433043.0.html)



Shane
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 18 January 12 16:17 GMT (UK)
....
Nicholas Walsh born 7th March 1865 to Edmond and Catherine Walsh (nee Cousins). Nicholas' birth Certificate has them residing in Crossfamoge.
...
Edmonds profession is a fisherman. Stated on Nicholas' birth certificate.
....

maybe that's Crossfarnoge - which is in Kilmore civil parish. It's a townland of just 59 acres and contains most of the village of Kilmore Quay.



Shane
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: RoyNW on Wednesday 25 January 12 09:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thomas (Lannigan) Walsh was my Gr Gr Grandfather, James (Bressie) my Gr. Grandfather and Nicholas my Grandfather. My Mother is doing research but I just wanted to add my info as well. I live in South Africa.

Roy Walsh
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shorts on Monday 05 March 12 17:55 GMT (UK)
I have
Richard Walsh  born in around 1850s  who married Catherine Wickham
they have 13 children Maria born first / John/ Mary/Ann/ Anastacia/ Catherine/ William aka Jes/ Richard/ Ellen/ Frances (fanny) and my great grandmother Margaret  Peg)

I know they were nearly all Rosslare lifeboat men and that Richard  and Catherine son Richard had sons richard and Jim. 

Anastasia married John Pear
Catherine married a  Mr Nevin
William (jess) married a  Ms Barry
Richard married a  Ms Doyle
Ellen married John Smith and had Richard who we lost contact with in the 80s
 
I have now tracked down Margaret's baptism 22nd April 1879 Parish: Tagoat, Diocese : Ferns, the sponsor is named as William Sheil.
I alos have  William (Jes) baptism, PArish:Tagoat, Diocese: Ferns 7th Jan 1877, sponsor is Patt Duggan ( Duggans are lifeboat men I believe.)

Are there any Tagoat parish records etc I may search to find the other baptisms or marriages? I assume Richard Walsh and catherine Wickham married roughly 1870 given they had many children around these dates.

Margaret and Peg worked at a boys boarding school in Wicklow for a time together. Peg had 3 children and 6 grandchiuldren

John Walsh was in the Navy, a diver and on one of the lifeboats.
 Frances had 5 children and 4 grandchildren

Richard Walsh was a lifeboat man as were his 2 sons Richard (coxswain and his own son yes you guessed it called Richard also a lifeboat man. The Duggans were the brothers in law) and Jim Walsh.  Richard has 4 children in all and 14 grandchildren.

William (Jess) Also a lifeboatman. He lived on a promontory at the mouth of Wexford Harbour which got washe daway and the harbour silted up . Not sure what this village was called..
 He lost his job as a lifeboat man and Coastguard and moved home with John.

Catherine (Kate) lived in a small cottage on the edge of Hopeland, a widow. Had 2 children 12 grandchildren

Anastacia ( ant) married John pear and had 2 children, her son Bill  was a great boat builder. She had 12 grandchildren

Phew! I'm still trawling the www trying to track them all down trying to find a lead to  Richard Walsh and Catherine Wickhams marriage. A clue to tell me where they married or are buried. Or who their parents were..

I’ve just been reading a book that contains various references to the Rosslare Walsh family referred to in this post

In the 1911 census the number of years married for Catherine is stated to be 52 years (1859). Their eldest child, Marie was stated to be aged 40 in 1901 and 49 in 1911 so she was born around 1860-1. It would appear therefore that Catherine and Richard were married closer to 1860 than the 1870’s

Based on this data it would appear that Richard and Catherine (the latter stated to be 58 and 71 in the two censuses) were born around 1840 rather than in the 1850’s.

The 1911 census states Catherine had 11 children, 9 still living which differs to the 13 stated in the post.

It would appear that Anastasia (born approx 1871-2) married a John Peare, not Pear.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Rosslare/Burrow/693582/

Their son John Walsh of The Burrow Rosslare Strand died on Dec 12th 1954. The following is an extract from p464 of  ‘A Maritime History of Co Wexford - Vol II’ by John Power.

John Walsh was 85 when he died. He was the 2nd last survivor of the crew of the Rosslare (Fort) lifeboat that went to the ‘Mexico’. He had a lifetime experience of fishing…..he was a mine of information on local history and folklore and right up to his death he had a remarkable ability to remember dates and happenings.

He was Uncle of Dickie Walsh, who coxswained the Rosslare Harbour lifeboat in the rescue of the crew of the “World Concord” (earlier in the year).

Chief mourners were Mrs J Smith and Mrs T Harpur (sisters), William, James and Richard Walsh and William Pierce (Nephews). He was buried at Churchtown cemetery Tagoat.

Notes: 

It's possible that John Walsh was buried in the same cemetery where his parents were buried.

William Pierce may possibly be William (Bill) Peare

There is a photo of John Walsh with a Andy Doyle on page 464 of the book

There is a full account of the 1954 lifeboat rescue by ‘Dickie’ Walsh on pages 458-461 with a group photo of the lifeboat crew which includes Richard Walsh, Jim Walsh and James Walsh.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 06 March 12 11:06 GMT (UK)
I am off to Wexford for a couple of nights end of the month.  Still hoping to find more of my Walsh history.  I have found from ancestry that Grandad (John Joseph )  had a sister Bridget born 1880 possibly died shortly after.  Also found that when Grandad ran off to sea in 1897, his father John was on his way back from Australia.  Is there anywhere I can check records of sailings at that time.  Each time I go over I glean a little info but still come back as puzzled as ever. Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shorts on Tuesday 06 March 12 13:31 GMT (UK)
Still hoping to find more of my Walsh history.  I have found from ancestry that Grandad (John Joseph )  had a sister Bridget born 1880 possibly died shortly after. Anne

I had a quick look at my bits & bobs but couldn't see a baptism record for Bridget. However below is a baptism record for your Grandfather's younger brother, William. He was born on 3rd August 1885 (his DOB stated in your tree is 30/04/1886)

He was baptised on the 4th and the sponsors were Nicholas Greene and Mary Willis.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 06 March 12 13:44 GMT (UK)
Hi  Thanks for that.  I will change my tree.  I think I got the dates from school records Ger gave me and also 1901 census.  But on that census grandad is shown as 18 when he had turned 19 about 3 weeks before the census was taken.  Every little helps and who knows maybe the sponsors might through open another family connection.  If a baby was still born would it be baptised. there is a record for Bridget, mother Mary Furlong and also a record for death about same time.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: shorts on Tuesday 06 March 12 15:28 GMT (UK)
Hi  Thanks for that.  I will change my tree.  I think I got the dates from school records Ger gave me and also 1901 census.  But on that census grandad is shown as 18 when he had turned 19 about 3 weeks before the census was taken.  Every little helps and who knows maybe the sponsors might through open another family connection.  If a baby was still born would it be baptised. there is a record for Bridget, mother Mary Furlong and also a record for death about same time.

I've got your Grandfather's March 1882 Baptism record - I'll take another look for Bridget's.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Saturday 10 March 12 09:29 GMT (UK)
I couldn't quite make out the surname of sponcer for grandad.  To me it looks like Thomas Lucean but that is a name I haven't come across before. 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Saturday 10 March 12 10:04 GMT (UK)
I have checked census for 1901 & 11 and found a Thomas Luccan who is mate on Castle Talbot lightship, Blackwater in 1901.  In 1911 he is in Faythe with wife Mari Ann and daughter Alice who is single and a teacher.  He is lightship master.  Perhaps my gt.grandfather John Walsh was connected to lightships.  Tantalising all these little bites that come up.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Friday 30 March 12 17:16 BST (UK)
Just back from Wexford.  Think I may have a few clues about my gt.grandfather John Walsh.  Need to work on it.  When I went to the library to book a new slot on the micro film, and I spotted a fellow with a long grey pony tail.  So thank you Jack O'Leary for helping me out on Wednesday.  Good to finaly meet him.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 04 April 12 11:30 BST (UK)
Looking through baptismal records in the library, I found a John Walsh born 5th August 1861, christened 6th.  Parents Richard Walsh and Ellen Cogley.  Sponsors William and Mary Murphy.  This date fits in with 1901 census  when John was shown as 40.  If these names belong to someone using this site, then maybe they can help me either claim them or discount them.  Hopefully the first option.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Cog on Tuesday 18 September 12 15:13 BST (UK)
Hi Rattler

I just got to the end of this thread and totally lost my trail of thought. Im sure you posted on one of my threads re Furlongs of Wexford a while back now while searching for your Furlongs , my thread has been updated recently with news of another family of Furlongs that lived in Swan View just doors away from my Furlongs in Castlehill Street (Kevin Barry Street) . I feel that there could be a connection with your Furlong, but not sure what it is yet !!!

Carol
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: 22SIMON90 on Tuesday 18 September 12 16:04 BST (UK)
Shorts.. That's great only just seen your reply! Been away for my dads heart op. Would love to come to Ireland and go to Tagoat to see what graves are there and to see the lifeboat house. I have lots of info on local people from that era I have promised to copy and send to Ferguson Wickahm and his wife who know local families mentioned in the notes we have.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 16 October 12 13:20 BST (UK)
Hi Carol.  I have been away from the site for a while so just spotted your response about my Walsh and Furlong family.  I have tried several times to find John or Mary in 1911 Irish census but found lots of records with the correct names but none match up with my lot.  Does anyone know if there is a way of tracing census taken on merchant vessels.  Clutching at straws again.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Cog on Tuesday 16 October 12 16:38 BST (UK)
Hi Rattler

If you look on ancestry there is a search facility for occupations and have some stuff on merchant seamen. I typed in John Walsh born Ireland and one for Wexford came up, dont know if this John is too early for yours, but worth a look as this was the only one I looked at.

Carol
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Cog on Tuesday 16 October 12 16:56 BST (UK)
Hi again

just noticed that your Great Grandparents names John Walsh and Mary Furlong lived in King Street this is less that 4 mins walk from my Furlongs in Castlehill Street (Kevin Barry Street) . I may be clouding the issue here but I may come across a connection with our Furlongs and your Walsh.

Carol
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 17 October 12 11:39 BST (UK)
Hello again Carol.  Grandad was born in King Street and according to school records, the family lived there till sometime in mid 1890s.  In the 1901 census they were living at 1 Castle Hill Street but that is were the trail goes cold.  It does look as though the Furlongs and Walshes had serveral connections.  On Grandad's baptismal record, his godparent is Thomas Lucan who was a lightship man.  I have tried to find a family connection there but so far no luck.  What joy.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 24 October 12 10:40 BST (UK)
I have been doing a new search tactic and looked at Masters Certificates at the time my Gt.grandfather was at sea.  I found 3 certificates, 1 each for 2nd, 1st and then Master.  The Master was issued 24 December 1892 at Newport.  His DOB was 19 Jan 1859, which about tallies with 1901 census.  Address given was 32 Faythe Street.  Hight 5' 6", brown hair and blue eyes.  My grandad was about 5' 5" with blue eyes.  I am posting this in the hope that someone can connect him to their family and I can either discount him from mine or if I am really lucky, maybe I have finally struck gold.  Desperate Anne.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Friday 13 March 15 06:47 GMT (UK)
I have been doing a new search tactic and looked at Masters Certificates at the time my Gt.grandfather was at sea.  I found 3 certificates, 1 each for 2nd, 1st and then Master.  The Master was issued 24 December 1892 at Newport.  His DOB was 19 Jan 1859, which about tallies with 1901 census.  Address given was 32 Faythe Street.  Hight 5' 6", brown hair and blue eyes.  My grandad was about 5' 5" with blue eyes.  I am posting this in the hope that someone can connect him to their family and I can either discount him from mine or if I am really lucky, maybe I have finally struck gold.  Desperate Anne.

The John Walsh in those certificates matches nicely with the family of John Walsh you identified as yours in Castlehill St. in the 1901 census.  That is, except for the address?
Also, this John's date of birth on 19 January 1859 has a big implication for you. If this is correct them some of the births to John Walsh/Mary Furlong you thought were yours (ones in 1870s?) are too early to be those of your g-grandfather (he would have been too young). I also think there was more than one family with these names at that time - birth registrations seem to indicate multiple families with these names having children through the 1860s and 70s, while your ancestors probably married 1880 to 1882 time frame?

Separately, we share common relatives, but don't appear to be related ourselves. A great-aunt of mine, Mary Walsh (ca. 1882-1960s), married a younger brother of your grandfather, James, and had three children. The family moved to Liverpool around 1911, after being deserted by James. Descendants are by the name of Fleet and....? Would love to reestablish contact with them (one visited my grandmother in Tramore shortly before her death in the 1980s).

Are you the same person as yellabelly on another board?
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Friday 13 March 15 07:08 GMT (UK)
Still not given up on my Walsh connections.  I received the birth certificate for Thomas Walsh, born 1874 with parents John Walsh and Mary Furlong.  Had been told maybe granddad (John Joseph) was a late arrival in 1882.  Found a Thomas Walsh in the 1911 census, 38, same age as the birth certificate I have.  He lived in 4 Paradise Row with wife Mary and 3 daughters.  He is shown as a painter.  Does he belong to any other Walsh who uses this site. Also a James Walsh, age 52, in 9 Paradise Row married to Mary Anne.  Grandad had brothers by that name.  Fingers crossed as always, Anne

Keep your hands off them, they are mine! :)
James Wash of Paradise Row is my great-grandfather, born 1855 in Kilrane parish, died in Wexford in 1944. His parents were Martin Walsh and Catherine Cooper, while Mary Anne was his second wife. By his first wife, Julia Brennan of Davidstown, Glynn, he had one son and 6 daughters. His daughter, Mary (ca 1882-1960s)  married James Walsh, a younger brother of your grandfather. I have to say that your James was a rogue, who deserted his wife and three young children. Mary had to raise the children on her own in Liverpool. The Thomas Walsh of Paradise Row is another, more distant relative of mine, a son of another Martin Walsh and Dora Donnolly.  Hope this clears things up.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Monday 23 March 15 14:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks to Wexflyer I know a little more of my Walsh family.  He came across Francis Walsh in RNR records and I sent for record.  his father John Walsh is nearest relative but instead of giving address it says c/o J J Stafford, Stonebridge, Wexford.  Could that mean John sailed for the Staffords.  Also he found death of William Walsh 1st Q 1905 but I cannot get certificate from Roscommon without DOD and address.  Any suggestions on other ways to see record.  The brick wall seems a lot smaller now.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Sinann on Monday 23 March 15 16:21 GMT (UK)
Also he found death of William Walsh 1st Q 1905 but I cannot get certificate from Roscommon without DOD and address.  Any suggestions on other ways to see record.  The brick wall seems a lot smaller now.  Anne

Are you going by the online form
https://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/Death_Application_Form-English.doc
If so, these forms are designed for more recent Certs but if you put the name, district, quarter, vol and page on the form and post or fax to Roscommon they will find it for you.
Photocopy costs €4, include your email to speed it up.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=599538.0

Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 23 March 15 17:12 GMT (UK)
his father John Walsh is nearest relative but instead of giving address it says c/o J J Stafford, Stonebridge, Wexford.  Could that mean John sailed for the Staffords?

Yes, that is how I would read it.
When you are next in Wexford you should have a look at the the three volume series of books on the "Maritime History of Co. Wexford" (title from memory, so may be a bit off).
Also, I agree with "Sinann" on how to order the cert. from the GRO.


Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Tuesday 24 March 15 10:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks for replies.  I have volume 1 & 2 of John Powers books.  I will make that my reading for tonight.  Every time I came across the name John Walsh, I put in a marker but until now I didn't know who he sailed for.  If anyone about to give up on their tree reads this, take heart as I have been searching for Walsh info for several years now.  Will try the Rosscomon office for certificate.  Thanks again.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 11 May 16 21:39 BST (UK)
Back again.  I sent off for death certificate for William but address given is The Swan in the Faythe.  Last address I had for family was 1 Castlehill Street in the 1901 census.  Can't find John or Mary in the 1911 so no idea what happened between 01 and 11.  I also requested marriage cert for John Walsh and Mary Furlong in 1877 which tied in with info Wexflyer gave me but although both names appeared in list they did not marry each other.  The search goes on.  I was booked to visit Wexford with my daughter last month but she took ill day before we were due to go so will have to wait till we can get over there again.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 12 May 16 00:23 BST (UK)
Back again.  I sent off for death certificate for William but address given is The Swan in the Faythe.  Last address I had for family was 1 Castlehill Street in the 1901 census.  Can't find John or Mary in the 1911 so no idea what happened between 01 and 11.  I also requested marriage cert for John Walsh and Mary Furlong in 1877 which tied in with info Wexflyer gave me but although both names appeared in list they did not marry each other.  The search goes on.  I was booked to visit Wexford with my daughter last month but she took ill day before we were due to go so will have to wait till we can get over there again.  Anne

Hi Anne,
I believe The Swan is an unofficial area, not a formal address. It gets its name from an ornamental cast iron swan - a fountain? - located at the north end of The Faythe (was still there last time I visited a few years ago). The south end of Castlehill St. connects directly to where the Swan is located. So, I think the two addresses are entirely consistent with each other - saying you were living in the area of the Swan would easily include part of Castlehill St.
Another important point is that the numbering on the 1901 and 1911 census returns is NOT a street address. It is just a sequence number. So, "1 Castlehill St" means the first return collected or numbered by the enumerator, not that they lived in address "1 Castlehill St.

Finally, two key things on the 1905 death cert for William Walsh
- What was his profession?
- Who was the informant? - often a relative.
All the best
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Thursday 12 May 16 13:49 BST (UK)
I downloaded the death certificate for William but cannot find it now.  I must not have saved it and download time has run out.  I thought when I saw the swan, it was the guest house which I had stayed in on a visit some time ago.  If I remember wrightly he was a sailor and I think he died of TB.  I don't think name of person present was what I expected so rather foolishly I assumed it was wrong William.  I did find on Franks RNR record that next of kin in 1910 was his father but no address apart from JJ Stafford so when I finally get over there again I will check it out at office on quayside.  Ah well.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 12 May 16 16:31 BST (UK)
I thought when I saw the swan, it was the guest house which I had stayed in on a visit some time ago....

Hi Anne,
 I believe that guest house (and pub?) gets its name from being located at the Swan. Another way to think of it is that the Swan is a local landmark, which was (is?) used as a location reference.

As regards William, what you are running into is of course a typical problem - that the information recorded on the death certificates is often simply not enough to make a conclusion with certainty. In this case, I think that this William is consistent with being "yours", but again, without being absolutely certain. The items in favour of this identification would be that his profession is correct (sailor), and age and location roughly match. And there is also an argument from omission - that if your William did not die around then, you might have known more of him and he would turn up in other records.
 All the best
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Thursday 12 May 16 23:57 BST (UK)
My thoughts exactly about William.  Now I just have to find out where the parents were on the 1911 census.  Really need to get over and check out some church records to maybe find out when they died.  Think I will let my Walsh side rest in peace for a little while.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Friday 11 November 16 14:47 GMT (UK)
Back again.  I haven't managed a visit yet but I was looking at 1901 census for Castlehill Street and last time I was over there I couldn't make out with end they had lived.  House number on census was 1 with 6 rooms, house 12 was public house and 13 unoccupied with 13 rooms.  Could someone tell me would 1 be close to Swan Guest house or other end.  Thanks, Anne.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 13 November 16 08:37 GMT (UK)
The numbers on the census are just the enumerator's numbers for that particular census so can't be relied on 100% to figure out where a particular property was located. The Valuation Revision Books and maps that go with Griffith's Valuation might help sort out which property you are interested in.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 04 January 17 10:31 GMT (UK)
you may be interested in crew lists
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j7c/
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 04 January 17 10:53 GMT (UK)
Wow.  Thanks for the intro into that site.  Problem is I am looking for John, John Joseph, William or Frank Walsh.  My gt.grandfather was John, born 1860c and he is the one I am most keen to find as I was told he was a master.  On Franks RNR paper, John's address is shown as J J Stafford. Wexford.  Is there a way I can check for those names.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 04 January 17 11:16 GMT (UK)
at the top of the page see search
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 04 January 17 11:36 GMT (UK)
you may need to search as Welsh as well

heres another site same thing Walsh or Welsh/Welch
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=Welch&submit=Search
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 04 January 17 17:50 GMT (UK)
Wow.  Thanks for the intro into that site.  Problem is I am looking for John, John Joseph, William or Frank Walsh.  My gt.grandfather was John, born 1860c and he is the one I am most keen to find as I was told he was a master.  On Franks RNR paper, John's address is shown as J J Stafford. Wexford.  Is there a way I can check for those names.  Anne

 I just tried using the site and search provided by dathai, and entering a range for the birth date. Came up rapidly with a John Walsh of Wexford as a mate in 1891 and master in 1893, latter with address in King St. Looks like a great resource - found my great-uncle Bartholomew Walsh of Wexford straight off!
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 04 January 17 18:56 GMT (UK)
http://www.papalorders.ie/index.php/past-members-2?format=html&task=memberDetails&mid=203

possibly this family
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Wexford_No__2_Urban/Main_Street__South__part_of/696758/

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Urban_No__2/Main_Street_South/1805491/
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 04 January 17 19:11 GMT (UK)
Wexflyer did you abbreviate his name Walsh Bart*
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Wednesday 04 January 17 21:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Edward.  I just tried the sight again for John Walsh but couldn't find a record of him as mate or master.  He did live in king street when grandad was born.  Help please and hope invite got through.  Anne
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 04 January 17 22:31 GMT (UK)
Wexflyer did you abbreviate his name Walsh Bart*

I did. He was only a sailor for a short time, before joining the British Army who promptly shipped him off to South Africa, and proceeded to blow him up there (themselves) in December 1900. So my mother, who is still alive TG, has an uncle who died in the South African war while Victoria was still on the throne, in the last days of the 19th century.....
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 05 January 17 03:01 GMT (UK)
I sent off for death certificate for William but address given is The Swan in the Faythe.  Last address I had for family was 1 Castlehill Street in the 1901 census.  Anne

Hi Anne,
I believe The Swan is an unofficial area, not a formal address. It gets its name from an ornamental cast iron swan - a fountain? - located at the north end of The Faythe (was still there last time I visited a few years ago). The south end of Castlehill St. connects directly to where the Swan is located. So, I think the two addresses are entirely consistent with each other - saying you were living in the area of the Swan would easily include part of Castlehill St.

I was back in the "Holy Land" (Wexford) for a flying visit  on a rather grey afternoon on the 9th of December. Attached is the first of a few photos showing "The Swan" and area. It is indeed a fountain. Inscription says it was erected by the Co. Wexford committee of the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals, in 1888.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 05 January 17 03:07 GMT (UK)
A second photo, showing what I believe is Castle Hill St. connecting to the south-east corner of the Faythe.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 05 January 17 03:27 GMT (UK)
Detail view of the house at the corner of the Faythe and Castle Hill st. Note the two street nameplates.
- The lower says "The Faythe",
- The upper says "Swan View".
This shows that use of the Swan as an address has some official existence.
Also note the post office box built into the side of the house.
Finally, one of the ancient cemeteries of Wexford town is directly adjacent to and behind this house, down the street on the left (not visible in this photo).
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 05 January 17 05:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Edward.  I just tried the sight again for John Walsh but couldn't find a record of him as mate or master.  He did live in king street when grandad was born.  Help please and hope invite got through.  Anne

Hi Anne,
  Here is a link for John Walsh of King St. Wexford, as master of the "Alice Eleanor" in 1893 (first of three pages)
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604531_00334.pdf (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604531_00334.pdf)
Here is a link for John Walsh of Wexford as mate on the "Charles Walker" in 1891 (second of two pages)
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604390_00585.pdf (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604390_00585.pdf)
These simply happened to be the first two links I clicked on using the crew search link provided by dathai, filled out with the following info.

Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: rattler on Saturday 26 August 17 14:12 BST (UK)
Hi Edward, sorry for not replying sooner.  I thought I had till I checked this again.  I think you are right about John being master oh Alice Elenor. Nice to get one step further up the ladder.  I have also learnt that one of grandads sisters, Bridget, married Thomas Murphy so I am busy tracking them down.  Each time I am about to give up on my Walsh family, I get a little gem to spark the interest again. 
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: martina boylan on Sunday 10 September 17 22:18 BST (UK)
Hi,
William (Bill) Peare  married Alice Hore, a sister of my grandmother's Margaret Hore. They were from Oylegate.
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 11 July 21 08:43 BST (UK)
This is a really interesting thread with lots of photos and exciting stories and a great example of relatives reaching out to each other.

I've read half of it ...am commenting to bring it to top of page so i can read later .I'm not a WALSHE WALSH

Since the topic was started in 2009 and last commented on in 2017 DNA tests have become more popular I wonder if any of you contributors have tested and confirmed your links and found any relatives born
"Outside the blankets"
Always a possibility of descendants of seafarers to have relatives worldwide !
Title: Re: Walsh of Wexford
Post by: Boker Lad on Saturday 28 August 21 23:11 BST (UK)
Still not given up on my Walsh connections.  I received the birth certificate for Thomas Walsh, born 1874 with parents John Walsh and Mary Furlong.  Had been told maybe granddad (John Joseph) was a late arrival in 1882.  Found a Thomas Walsh in the 1911 census, 38, same age as the birth certificate I have.  He lived in 4 Paradise Row with wife Mary and 3 daughters.  He is shown as a painter.  Does he belong to any other Walsh who uses this site. Also a James Walsh, age 52, in 9 Paradise Row married to Mary Anne.  Grandad had brothers by that name.  Fingers crossed as always, Anne

Keep your hands off them, they are mine! :)
James Wash of Paradise Row is my great-grandfather, born 1855 in Kilrane parish, died in Wexford in 1944. His parents were Martin Walsh and Catherine Cooper, while Mary Anne was his second wife. By his first wife, Julia Brennan of Davidstown, Glynn, he had one son and 6 daughters. His daughter, Mary (ca 1882-1960s)  married James Walsh, a younger brother of your grandfather. I have to say that your James was a rogue, who deserted his wife and three young children. Mary had to raise the children on her own in Liverpool. The Thomas Walsh of Paradise Row is another, more distant relative of mine, a son of another Martin Walsh and Dora Donnolly.  Hope this clears things up.
    That Thomas Walsh of 4 Paradise Row , a painter and aged 38 in the 1911 census,  worked as a painter in Pierces Foundry  Wexford Town, who produced farm implements and bicycles  etc. Thomas painted the fine writing on the bicycle frames. He also made hurling balls ( sliotars) His son Jim died when about 10 or 11. He had daughters , Dora, Molly, Peggy , Kathleen