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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: tkennedy5 on Wednesday 15 September 10 18:41 BST (UK)
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Seeking lookup on Thomas Kennedy b. about 1798
Married to Catherine Miller on Dec 22 1829 at First Garvagh Prest. Church
Emigrated to Buffalo NY then Uxbridge, Ontario, Canada about 1843
children:
Robert T Kennedy 1832 – 1905
Samuel Miller Kennedy 1833 – 1914
Thomas Kennedy 1835 – 1916
William Kennedy 1838 – 1918
John Kennedy 1842 – 1914
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1831 census index - two families in Garvagh area headed by a Thomas Kennedy
Thomas Kenedy in Ballynameen, Desertoghill
Thomas Kennedy in Magheramore, Desertoghill
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The 1831 census only listed head of household so it's difficult to know which, if either, could be the correct Thomas Kennedy. Unfortunately Kennedy is an extremely common surname in the Garvagh area.
Any idea when the Kennedy family went to America?
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thanks for your replies.
Thomas and family would have gone to America/Canada sometime after John was born in 1842, their next child was born in Canada in 1848 (Charles)
One of his kids immigration year on a Canadian census shows as 1843
Perhaps check the 1841 census?
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1841 census doesn't survive for this area. Will have a dig through my files but without a townland it may be impossible to pinpoint the correct family.
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I can't find any evidence of your Thomas Kennedy in First Garvagh records (children's baptisms, earlier visitation lists, etc.) but marriages ususally take place in bride's church so perhaps he wasn't a member of First Garvagh.
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I found some notes I found a year ago:
they "came from County Derry, Northern Ireland, at Londonderry on the Foyle River. Bogside near the old historic fort of Londonderry. My grandfather played around the old fort.
I also found an obituary of William Kennedy that says he was born at Armagh.
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1831 census index
Thomas P Kennedy residing Waterloo Place, L'Derry city [parish of Templemore]
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thanks, however, I think that my Thomas Kennedy grew up in Londonderry but raised his family after 1829 in Armagh. So would have been in Armagh from about 1829 to 1843.
So I think I need a check on Prestbyterian Churches in Armagh in those years.
I think I am on the wrong message board for that?
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I can move this thread to Ireland-General board rather than multiple threads looking for the same family.
I think part of the problem is the family information you are started your research with- "came from County Derry, Northern Ireland, at Londonderry on the Foyle River. Bogside near the old historic fort of Londonderry. My grandfather played around the old fort."
Bogside is part of Londonderry (city) near the banks of the Foyle and 'the old fort' could refer to the Walls of Derry. This, if corrrect, points to Derry city rather than the Garvagh area and neither is near Armagh (although the family certainly could have moved).
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Also, if Catherine Miller was from Garvagh this may be her baptism record from the First Garvagh Prestbyterian Church:
1810
Febr
28 Cathren daughter to Jno Miller of Metican, Parish of Errigle
I think Jno= John?
Does anyone know where Metican is?
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The townland is Mettican Glebe, not far out of Garvagh, in Errigal Parish.
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ok, thanks.
I have also found these Garvagh Church visitation records:
1825 Garvagh Church Visitation List:
Colebann (Culbane)
Culbane - now a small village. C 82 13
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John Miller
Marey Miller
William Miller
Cathren Miller
Alexr Miller
August 1818 Garvagh Church visitation list:
Metican (Mettican)
Mettican Bridge is at C 84 17.
F293
Jno Miller
Mary his wife
Willm
Alex
Do you know of this village:
Colebann (Culbane)
Culbane - now a small village?
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Are you looking at the First Garvagh from Bann Valley website? If so, be aware there are loads of transcription mistakes. The Bann Valley site lists Cuilbane as a village (never was) and Mettican as Mettican Bridge (Mettican Bridge appears as a bridge on modern Ordnance Survey maps).
The place names are townlands, not villages. Cuilbane is a townland in Desertoghill Parish, just outside Garvagh.
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yes, thanks for the information
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Can someone look for a family of Thomas Kennedy in the 1831 census for Ballymoughan Townland?
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No Thomas but there was an Alexander & a John Kennedy as head of households in Ballymoghan More, Magheraflet in 1831.
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ok thanks for the research.
Has anyone know of a town or townland of Cooleyman? is that in County Derry?
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Culnaman is in Desertoghill Parish and there are numerous spellings such as Coolyman, Cooleneman as well as several parts of the townland with unofficial names such as Carragh/Nacarragh, Derrymore, etc. There are several suggested meanings of the name such as 'corner of the women' or 'corner of the Peaks.'
Unsurprisingly for the area it was home to many, many Kennedys.
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Thomas kennedy born 27th June 1798 in first garvagh presbetyrian.
No parents recorded.
I have managed to match through DNA with one or two Canadians who have these people in their tree . I have messaged them and they have said that it was not them that did the tree , I was wondering anyone on here knows more about these specific kennedys.
My mother is a Kennedy. I have traced my kennedys back to bovevagh parish county Derry - Samuel Kennedy born 1870 to a John Kennedy. There was 2 or 3 kennedys in bovevagh on the 1851 census.
I believe that my bovevagh kennedys are something to these kennedys especially since I have managed to match through DNA with some Canadian kennedys with this specific tree!!
Only thing is , is that my kennedys where church of Ireland.
Any replies would be much appreciated.
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By the way , there is a photo on one of the lady’s tree of the John Kennedy mentioned in the original post - died 1914 . My mum said she can see a resemblance in her own brothers!?
Also , on the birth record 1798 the Address for Thomas is given as cooleyman. Now , somebody has already explained the cooleyman townland above. Interesting , my mother said her grandfather kennedys nickname was “curleman Kennedy” because he had white Curley hair but she was young and can’t remember much! Maybe his nickname was cooleyman Kennedy 😂?!
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The record for Thomas Kennedy (27 June 1798) is a baptism from 1st Garvagh not a birth record- the date is date of baptism not date of birth.
Unless your DNA matches have traced their family accurately (and not just copied details from someone else's tree) then you really don't have a match with you Kennedys.
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wrong forum