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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: viking-man on Sunday 19 September 10 11:35 BST (UK)
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Hi
Was wondering whether anyone has come across the surname Lindsell/Linsell/Lynsell from around the little villages in Essex (Ashdon, Dunmow, Debden, Stebbing) 1530-1800 ?
If you have I would love to hear from you as I have a wealth of info to share & would like to dot the i's & cross the t's
Gary
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Hi Gary,
I don't have any Lindsell's directly myself, however my 1st Cousin Once removed is a Lindsell and i had looked into her father's family a little bit for her.
Her father was a James William Lindsell, b1902 in Romford, i belive his father was James Thomas Lindsell b1867 Herongate, then his was Thomas Lindsell b1837 Hockley and finaly Thomas Lindsell b1803 (who was in Ashingdon on the 1841 census). Now i know that is is not the areas of Essex you are talking about, but is not a common name so i was hoping you might have found a connection moving towards those areas of essex.
Richard
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Hi Richard
My last Lindsell was Mary Lindsell born 1804 Great Dunmow dau of Robert Lindsell born 1763 Great Easton. Don't think any lines were in your areas unless other children of Robert's brothers moved that way which is possible. Robert only has girls but he had many brothers: John 1760, William 1760, Richard 1763, Thomas 1765, James 1767 all born at Great Dunmow. (Richard became a famous cricketeer in his 80's & lived to 93)
Be interesting to see where your Thomas born 1803 came from.
If you do end up finding a connection then I have the Linsell's back to 1531 & they married into gentry (Jocelyn's) which takes the tree back to King Alfred & beyond.
Regards Gary
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Hi Gary
I think we might have be in touch before but my Lindsell is Annie born circa 1884 no idea where I have been unable to find her birth certificate or find her in any census returns. All I do know is her Father was William Lindsell.
Carol
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Be interesting to see where your Thomas born 1803 came from.
Thanks Gary, i really don't know where he came from as all i have is the 1841 census for him, which as you know just says in County or not for the birth plasce, so i know he is from Essex but have no idea where, as it looks like he died before 1851 (wife is listed as widow with children on census).
Richard
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Hi Carol
Just wondering whether you've tried [you prob have] Ancestry.co.uk for the census / birth of Annie or even sign up on free BMD, she's there somewhere hiding from you :)
I know Ancestry doesn't show all census records though. How is Annie related to you?
Hi Richard
Has Essex got a baptisimal index by any chance? Years ago I paid Essex R.O. for a couple of hours research and they turned up a lot of stuff I would never have found off my own back. It was £12 /hr then but that was back in 1990's
Gary
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Hi Gary, not yet no. The Seax web site does have some registers scanned and availabe for free online, but so far nothing around the dates i'm looking for.
Richard
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I havent tried Ancestry lately but I did check out the census on findmypast mind you it has been a while since I looked for her so perhaps I will go back and take another look for her.
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Hi Carol
Let us know if you find anything. There's always new stuff being added.
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Coming in late to this - I have a Mahala Warren Lindsell married Joseph Houghton in 1850 in the Chelmsford reg district - but haven't checked any further yet
Consistently in censuses her birth place was recorded as Maldon - but years varied from 1824 - 1831 but mostly consistent with 1829-1831
They had some very distinctive children's names
Manasseh Joseph
Harriet Mahala
Abigail Letitia
Ephraim William
John Francis James
Mary (don't know how she missed out)
Albert Ignatio Francis
Don't know if any of these were traditional family names - thank heavens they didn't trickle down to my generation!!!
Cheers
Sue
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Hi Sue
That's a right mixed pot of names, should make tracing your tree easier than usual.
The names are not traditional family names. The Lindsell/Linsell's in my line usually opted for the norm, especially John and Jonathan.
It would be interesting to find out where they originated.
Regards Gary
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Thanks Gary - my lot never seem to be related to anybody elses!!
It amused me to think of an ag lab family sitting deciding what to call their children and coming up with such gems - no soap operas or pop or sporting stars in those days to name them after that seem to influence some people today
Once again - something it would be great to go back in time and ask the folk concerned about
Cheers
Sue
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Hi Sue
Perhaps we should be dedicating our time to inventing a time machine than researching our roots. Knowing my luck I'm prob descended from "Morlocks". ;D
Gary
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Gary
I have an Elizabeth Lindsell born Felsted c.1756 who married a Robert Perry also from Felsted on 11.02.1777. Felsted lies to the south of the A120; and this road appears to have been the parish boundary with Rayne, Stebbing and Dunmow to the north. In the 1800s you could have lived in Felsted and your neighbour across the road would be in Stebbing.
Mark
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Hi mark
Do you have Elizabeth's parents as yet? I wonder if she came from Stebbing as I have a Jonathan & William Linsell/Lindsell both born in Stebbing in the 1830's. Jonathan ist marriage in 1758 & he had his kids in Great Dunmow so wouldn't be him but I don't have much on William.
Gary
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Gary
Do you mean the 1730's?
Another website shows Elizabeth's parents as William b.1727 and Elizabeth Brewster b.1731 no further information.
The other site shows about 12 trees with these details; 11 of which will simply be copied from the original tree which may name a source.
I will have a closer look this evening.
Mark
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Sorry my mistake yes 1730's. Spent too long today looking at old documents
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I have found my Annie Lindsell married to my Grandfather in 1911, which on the face of it is wonderful but the trouble is we cant make sense of her place of birth!!!!!
It looks like Tundon and findmypast have transcribed it as such but I have never heard of such a place in Essex.
The reference is RG14PN9998 RG78PN526 RD193 SD1 ED3 SN94 and its Alfred George Tracey of Cottage Place, Brentwood, I would be greatful if someone could take a look and see what you can make of it.
Many thanks
Carol
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Hi Carol
I've never been on findmypast and not sure where to type what. Any chance you could attach a copy of the census on here or email me then I can have a look
Gary
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I have tried to attach a file here but it is to large for the site. I am not sure how to make it smaller as it is a lizardtech file.
I will see if I can do it another way.
Carol
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Hi
I have just come across this thread, I have Lizzie Broyd born Gt Warley Essex abt 1881 married to an unknown Lindsell they had a daughter Rosie Lindsell with whom my Mum was evacuated to during the war as Lizzie was her grandmothers sister.
I have been trying to make a connection but Mum is no longer with me to ask.
I remember staying with Rosie and her husband Reg Carslake near Honiton in Devon as a child and would like to straighten that part of my tree out!
Can you help?
Crystal :D
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Hi Carol
Can you email me the file to v(*_
Hi Crystal
The Essex record office conduct searches for a hourly fee, might be worth investing in a few hours in case they may be able to shed some light on Mr Lindsell. Just an idea.
I've looked on Ancestry for a marriage between an Eliz. Broyd & Mr Lindsell but nothing showed up that was obvious. mmm this is one to get the teeth stuck into!!
Gary
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Crystal - the Rosie Lindsell who married Mr Carslake in 1/4 1942 in Honiton district Devon - was recorded as Rosamund E (he was Reginald P)
Likely birth was registered as Rosamond Elizabeth in the Colchester district in 3/4 1906
Her parents married in 4/4 1904 in Romford district - he was William Lindsell - she was Hannah Elizabeth Broyd
I'll PM you some additional info
Cheers
Sue
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:o :o Thank you both so much for looking.
Very many thanks Sue the info was great!
Crystal :D
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For the sake of continuity in this thread - the unknown Lindsell Crystal was looking for appears to have been William - birth registered in Chelmsford district 2/4 1874
Census info gives his place of birth as Woodham Ferris
He was the son of Joseph - born East Hanningfield - 1843 (from census)
Cheers
Sue
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A bit more digging shows that Crystal's William Lindsell was a career soldier - joining the Royal Field Artillery in 1891 at Warley as a Driver - giving an age of 18 years 6 months (but a birthplace of Ingatestone!) He says he had previously served with the 4th Bn Essex Regiment (that I believe was a Militia force at that time)
He served in South Africa - earning both the Queens South Africa Medal (with 3 clasps - Transvaal, Cape Colony and Orange Free State) and the Kings South Africa Medal with both clasps (1901 and 1902)
He was awarded the King George V Coronation Medal in 1911, there was a Long Service Good Conduct award with gratuity in 1910 - and as he first saw service in France on 17th August 1914 - he was also awarded the 1914 Star in addition to the Victory and British War Medals
He was in France until 14/4/1916 and finally discharged (medically unfit) 14/3/1919 - with over 28 years service
He was married at Warley Church (his wife was recorded as Elizabeth Bride) on ?? Dec 1904 (page is very hard to read) and Rosa Elizabeth appears as their only child listed
On the Army record she is shown as being born at Warley (which was in the Romford district) but as she seems to have been registered in Colchester - maybe there was a transfer from one barracks to another between birth and registration???
Hope this is of some interest
Cheers
Sue
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My thanks go to Sue for putting me on the right track and for her time and effort :D
It would seem William Lindsell had a good soldiers record - I will be following that up although Sue seems to have all the details here!
Crystal :D
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This is fascinating, my Annies Father was a William and I cant find either of them anywhere prior to 1911 when Annie is married to my Grandfather >:( although it did not mention that my William was a soldior on Annies marriage certificate when she married my Grandfather in 1906.
I am just clutching at straws here.
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Sorry I can't throw any similar light on your William Lindsell littlemak.
Just taking another very quick look at your Annie Tracey (nee Lindsell) - it doesn't help you at all - but have you considered the possibility that she might be the 15 year old General Servant at the Orsett Stores in Orsett - in the 1901 census - born Grays - I can't easily find a suitable birth for her either - but can't think of anywhere in that area that could be anything like what has been given for her in 1911
No obvious sign of either suspect in 1891
The 1911 gives her birth year as approx 1883 - have you been able to confirm that from her marriage or death certs - and do you have Williams occupation from the marriage cert - are there any clues from witnesses?
You can see I'm clutching at straws too ;D
Cheers
Sue
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Hi Sue
Thankyou for taking the time to look for my Annie, yes I had thought she might be the servant in 1901 but as she is not at home I can not be sure that it is her :'(
My Annie was a Catholic and married my Grandfather in 1906 at the register office of the Lexden district, all the other marriages in my Grandfathers family took place at St Albrights church, Stanway.
Her Fathers occupation is given as farm labourer and he is noted as deceased. I have not found his death yet, however this line has been put to one side due to the frustration of it ::) so he may pop up somewhere now.
Annie's age is given as 23 years so that would make her year of birth circa 1883 ish which tallies with the 1911 census.
The witnesses on her marriage certificate are my Grandfathers sister Alma Louise Rippingale and her husband Harry Herbert Rippingale so that does not help at all :'(
She really is a conundrum.
Carol
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Yup - the "too hard basket" certainly seems like the best place for them for now Carol
Here's hoping you can solve it sometime - what's the story on 1921 census??? ::)
Cheers
Sue
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I know Sue, none of my Mothers family have proved easy and as for my Fathers :'( lets just not go there.
As for the 1921 census, well goodness knows how long we will have to wait for that to come out, but when it does the family should be in Brentwood at Alfred Road along with my Mother aged 4 or 5.
Carol
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Right hopefully I will get this right, and if I have you should be able to see an image of the 1911 census for my Grandparents with the place of birth of my Annie Tracey formerly Lindsell.
If so can anyone please tell me what it says for Annie Tracey's place of birth?
Thankyou
Carol
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Carol - knowing all the other suggestions that have been made from your other posts - seeing this again reminded me when I looked before I (very) vaguely wondered Lexden - only other clue is possibly in Essex - as Alfred didn't include counties with his or the other persons places of birth - maybe he thought - 'because everyone knew they were within the county'?????????
No more help than before I'm sure
Cheers
Sue
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Hello
I hope I am not too late to join this thread. I have a Lindsell from Debden in my tree - Emma, daughter of Joshua Linsdell who was born in Debden in 1832. In the 1841 census she was living at Ricketts in Debden with her parents and three sisters. Her father was an ag. lab. also born in Debden on 29.2.1808 and the son of a Thomas Linsdell (born c. 1777) and Catherine Subbing (b. 1.4.1785). From info gleaned from various websites I have got back to a John Linsell b. 1646. Does anyone have these Linsells/Linsdells in their tree? Also, there is a village called Linsdell not far from Debden - is this relevant?
Hil
PS - Emma married George Gray in Cambridge on 8.2.1853. They had at least 11 children and Emma died in Barnet at the age of 93.
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Gary,
Have just stumbled on this thread. My 2x great grandmother was Letitia LINSELL who married Joseph PEARMAIN at Great Dunmow in 1820. The census information shows her born in Great Easton ca 1797.
I've not managed to find any more information (so far) as I need to take a trip over to the ERO at some stage.
Harry
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when I looked before I (very) vaguely wondered Lexden - only other clue is possibly in Essex -
Hi Sue I have been taking another look myself and I do not think it is Lexden simply because he did his E's ans A's quite clearly, but looking at the way he made his R's in the word servant I am now thinking it could start Lur++++++ and maybe what I have been thinking is a D is not :'( It could be ?urclen or ?urolen what do you think?
Carol
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Hi,
I'm wondering if the place name is Quendon, Essex
The first letter looks similar to the numeral 2, I've noted the capital/upper case letter Q in peoples handwriting looking very much like the numeral 2.
Quendon is a stone's throw to the west of the M11 and about 4 or 5 miles north of Bishops Stortford,
Regards
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Could be it findem - every time I've looked at it I've "seen" something different - this morning wondered maybe Laindon - but the dot on his "i's" was so correct everywhere else - I was wondering about a Q for the first letter and thought the place in Essex was Querdon - but with a letter wrong I obviously didn't find it with a google search and hadn't got around to getting the road atlases with indexes out
See what Carol reckons
Cheers
Sue
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It could be, funnily enough it was one place my Brother mentioned he thought it could be. What registration district would that come under? Maybe I might yet find her birth certificate :D
Thankyou all for your help and input so far, watch this space.
Carol
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Saffron Walden - (from http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/places/regindex1-3.pdf)
Good Luck
Sue
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Thankyou Sue for all your help ;D Now to find that elusive reference :)
Carol
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Hello all,
Just found this thread too, my Mum was a Lindsell, i have them back to 1773 in Bocking, my branch moved to Ashington, Northumberland in the early 1870's. I have done lots of research of the Lindsell's in the Bocking, Braintree area.
Mark
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Hi
I am a novice at this (just joined) and refer back to your message re Lindsell back in October of last year!!! Lizzie Broyd was married to a William (Bill) Lindsell and their daughter Rosie (Rosamund) was my Dad's cousin. Rosie and Reg lived in a village called Offwell, near Honiton. I assume your Mum's Grandmother was Nancy.
I have a very basic Family Tree in my possession with the names of Oakes, Rance and Grimes on so you may be able to .fill in a few blanks that I have.
Wigsey
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Hello and welcome Wigsey,
How exciting :o we must be cousins of some sort. You are correct but Nancy (christened as Annie Nancy Oakes always known as Nancy) was my Grandmother not my mothers (she was her mother!)
Thank you I could not think of the name of the village near Honiton.
I would love to see how our trees match up - The names Oakes, Rance and Grimes all fit. Perhaps we can work backwards from the Grimes?
I think you need a couple more posts on Rootschat before I can 'pm' you - when I can I will send my email address.
Crystal :D
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Hi Crystal
Thanks for being so prompt but I do not want to get your hopes up as my infor is very limited as my tree is really on the paternal side and you are on the maternal side. It is funny how names get changed around as Lizzie Lindsell I thought was Elizabeth Hannah but on her marriage certificate she is Hannah Elizabeth and on her gravestone she is just Hannah.
Not sure how all this works yet but I think you are right that I need more postings - I might have to reply to you again!
I assume you are/were a Grimes.
Regards
Wigsey
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Hi Wigsey
That explains why I am having trouble finding her, the searches bring up next to nothing and certainly nothing concrete :(
I am unable to find a conclusive date of birth
Do you have access to her marriage certificate?
I only have William Lindsell's Army record of marriage on which she is just Elizabeth Bride
also do you know or have a photo of the whereabouts of her gravestone citing place date of death - Is it with Williams? again I have no record of a death for either of them.
My mother was a Grimes
All the best
Crystal :D
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Hi again
I have a copy of the marriage certificate of William and Lizzie and can send it to you when we have e-mail addresses. William was born 10.5.1874 and died 6.2.1961. Lizzie was born 24.12.1883 and died 2.1.1961. They married 26.12.1904. They are buried in Offwell Churchyard (burial index G153). I have a photo I can also send you. I also have some newspaper cuttings relating to them.
Perhaps you can give me some relevant dates for Nancy Broyd. My Uncle has recollections of the Oakes living at Little Roke Road, Purley and he thought someone worked on the railway. Is he correct?
Must close as off out but hope info is of use.
Best wishes
Wigsey
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Hi and Thank you for those details, I had Honiton recorded as a possible place of death for William.
Yes your uncle is almost correct the Grimes bakery was on the corner of Little Roke Road Kenley (nr Purley). I will pm you my email address and then give you details for Nancy Oakes her mother was Sarah Anne Broyd who was married to Tom Rance Oakes who lived in Brighton Road, South Croydon Surrey when my Grandmother was little then in Little Roke Road, Kenley I was told that he was the first to drive a Rolls Royce in Purley.
My reply may not be quite so quick as I have a busy week but I will definitely let you know once we make contact, after all I am really looking forward to receiving all the bits and pieces you have kindly offered
all the best Crystal :D
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Hi all
I am searching for a Henry Lindsell who married Elizabeth Woodham at Layston (nr Buntingford, Herts,) 7 April 1715, and had 3 daughters Elizabeth, Lucy and Susannah all born betweeen c1716 and 1720, and all still alive in 1737 when they are mentioned in grandfather Thomas Woodham of Linton (Cambs) will proved 1739. Henry and his flock disappear although we have a Lucy Lindsell marrying at Ashdon in 1748 who might be connected, Lucy being not such a common name at the time. They may well be non-conformists - many of the connected families were, - so may have just ducked under the radar, but if anyone can find them I would be very grateful.
Many thanks
Tickle
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Hello all,
Just found this thread too, my Mum was a Lindsell, i have them back to 1773 in Bocking, my branch moved to Ashington, Northumberland in the early 1870's. I have done lots of research of the Lindsell's in the Bocking, Braintree area.
Mark
I know this thread was few a years ago but I'm hoping that some of you may still be here!! I'm looking for some help trying to untangle Lindsells left right and centre from two of my trees in the Bocking/Braintree area 1800s and earlier!!!
On one hand I have a Mary Ann Lindsell c1836 (my 3rd Gt-Gm) marrying Walter Potter (3rd Gt-Gf), both Braintree - I have her parents as possibly William Lindsell c1801/Susanna Clark.
On another I have a Rebbeca Kettley c1813 marrying Abraham Lindsell - his parents poss Daniel Lindsell/Mary Cook.
And a floating piece of a tree with Joseph Lindsell c1781 marrying Hannah Chissellc1787! ???
And I also found an Elizabeth Potter marrying a Thomas Lindsell in Bocking in 1811 and started to wonder if she linked to me via Potters and Lindsells!!
Thanks in advance for any replies!!
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My connection to the Lindsell family in Essex does not date back before William born 1874 so I hope that there is someone on here that can offer you more help than me.
Good Luck
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Thank you, I appreciate your message!
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Abraham Lindsell (1810-1881) and Rebecca Kettley (1809-1879) are my 4x Great grandparents, Abraham is the son of Daniel Lindsell (1773-1823) and Mary Cook (1773-1860).
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Thank you Mark, I was hoping that you might reply! :) Rebecca Kettley's mother Sarah Quilter is my 5th Gt Aunt, that's one link!! Did Daniel have siblings, that might help with my other loose ends, and are you on Ancestry?!
Sue
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Hi,
I know this thread was started a while ago and I have only just stumbled across it.
My 3rd Great grandmother was Lucy Lindsell born 1818 in Wixoe Suffolk. But she married William Young, a carpenter of Braintree Essex. They lived in Bocking.
Her father I think was John Linsell of the Wixoe Suffolk area.
Any connections or anyone who could share information with would be wonderful. I would love to delve deeper into the family history.
Thank you
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Hi,
Unfortunately I can see no link to 'my' Lindsell family in Essex, as it does not date back before William born 1874.
I hope someone else on here can help you. :)
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Hi paperlighthouse,
I have Lindsells linking in to both sides of my tree in and around Braintree, and I have been on a mission to try and make sense of it, even if they're not related! The problem of the surname having a fair few spellings is challenging too.
I think I have them around Braintree from c1750, intrigued that out in Suffolk, though maybe came from more Braintree way. Ultimately they could be from Lindsell village itself.
I can see her on the 1841Census in Bradford St Bocking as a female servant to a banker family - interesting that there's also a criminal record for a Lucy Lindsell for Larceny by servant the following year 1842 - sentence 6 months (if that is her), then she didn't marry til 1847. I'll see if I can trace a link backwards.
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further reply:
1841-1871 census sees Ann Lindsell/Lyndsell, Lucy's mother as head of the family with a variety of other siblings. Father John died 1838.
The Webb family tree on Ancestry has John's father being a Jonathan Lindsell c1751 ? d1827 Wixoe - so from that I dug around a little and found that he married an Elizabeth Underwood in Sturmer on 22 Oct 1790 - daughter Elizabeth Underwood Lindsell married Charles Plumb, and John Lindsell married Ann Plumb - so pretty sure correct family.
As for Jonathan Lindsell, I can find a bap to Wethersfield, Essex for 1774(born 1752), states he was baptised aged 22yrs but u/v, also no parents listed.
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I suppose this surname originated in Lindsell, Essex? Here is an Augustine Lynsell, husbandman, there in Common Pleas, 1483.
Second entry:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E5/CP40no885A/bCP40no885Adorses/IMG_0170.htm
Essex. William Hendon versus Augustine Lynsell, of Lynsell, husbandman; and William Christenman(?), of Maldon, skinner. Debt.
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perhaps it's a case of the chicken and the egg, which came first?!! ;)
Though searches say the Essex place name refers to 'dwelling amongst the lime trees' - "lind" + "sele" that existed at the time of the Domesday Book.
However, I have seen some links to Lindsey, very hard with past accents and non conformity in spelling, to see if this is a variant of Lindsell. ???
Just yesterday my first vague DNA Lindsell link (5th-8th cousins) popped up, so I am trying to verify the link, sooooo many Lindsell :P. The core of one group seem to be around Great Bardfield late 1600s and into Braintree 1750s onwards.
ps amazing document find, I can only just make out the names!
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My surname is linsdell and I’ve traced the family back to Debden and saffron Walden but it looks like the further I get back the spelling of the surname get a bit more varied. To be fair it’s very rare for somebody these days to get the spelling correct, especially over the phone, Lonsdale, linsdale, linsul, etc
I would be interested to the origins of the name, Any history of the family in that area if you could share
Thanks
Rob
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Hi Rob, I've not gone that far across with my Braintree area Lindsells, though they do stretch down to London.
I believe earlier on the thread someone referred to possible origins for the name. What dates are you working with for yours?
Sue
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Hi,
My Grandmother's maiden name was Linsell.
She was the second oldest of 4 siblings. Born in Walthamstow, London.
Auntie Eva was the oldest and a pianist, she married Ernest Tyson (a violinist) and they played together on cruise ships for a while. They moved to Welling Garden City. Had 5 children;
John (who married Pat and had a son called Paul who died aged 7).
Ernestine (who married David Hedger, had a son called (*) and lived in Hitching, Hertfordshire).
Francis who never married as he became a monk, Christopher who married Christine and moved to New Zealand where they had 2 daughters (*).
(*) who became a Nun and lives in a closed order which has now moved to Nottingham.
My nan, Ethel Violet married my Granddad Hubert Stanley Cooke and had my mother (*), they lived in Waltham Abbey, Essex. She in turn had myself and my Elder brother (*) (we were both born in Epping). He and I had 1 child each.
Uncle Freddie (Fredrick) married Vera and had 3 children (*) (had no children), Tony Pace-Linsell (adopted Son, had a son called (*), moved to Cornwall, passed away several years ago). (*) had 2 children (both now have children of their own) by his first marriage and 1 with his new partner - (*), they live in Wood Green.
Auntie Ollie (Olive) the youngest was born in 1915, was a pianist who toured Europe with the Red Army and played the Royal Albert Hall, she never married or had children and passed away approx 10 years ago aged 92.
My Uncle Freddie had traced his family tree back to a Squire of Linsell and mentioned Baintree but I have now discovered there is actually a village called Linsell in Essex.
My Great Grandparents: unfortunately off hand I don't have much information, I think my Great Granddad was called Albert (when family referred to him they called him Pop, I'll find out more from my mother tomorrow and update). I know he was a French Polisher and had a brother (maybe more?).
My Great Grandmother lived in High Beech, Epping Forest where she sold cups of tea!
The legend was her house was next to Dick Turpin's hideout where he hid Black Bess, probably just a tall story though!
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Hi Rick,
I cannot contact you by message on here and my emails to the address you gave me keep being returned. Please look for me on Ancestry under the surname Hopkins or in your DNA list.
I'd really love to chat with you but am limited at present. Regards, Herbie
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Looking through the topic I am not too sure which member you are trying to make contact with and I can not spot a rick ?
Regards
Sarah
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Herbs
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Thanks Herbie for posting, the information was still interesting for those of us still interested in the thread!
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hi
I have LINSELL on my family tree
William Linsell was born on 25 Feb 1821 in Finchingfield, Essex, England.
he was in the 70th Foot (W.Indies & India)
he was one of at least 9 - his daughter was Sarah and she Married at 13/14yo
and her 2nd Husband was William Oakley my Great Grandfather x5
I dont know if this fits in with your tree, please feel free to contact me
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
Thank you for your reply, William of Finchingfield is indeed in my tree something like 6x cousin x6 removed. His parents were John and Elizabeth Shelley. He married Susannah Spurgeon c1850 and they had 2 daughters who died in old age as spinsters.
The William to whom you refer as a Sgt was born in Bocking - there were so many Linsells/Lindsells about, it isn't easy, I haven't quite worked out where he fits in yet!
Best wishes Sue
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hi Sue
Bocking comes up also on my list (use to work with a girl who's surname was Bocking many years ago!) My Willian Linsell b821 Married Mary Golway in Manchester (she died + 4 of her children in India) but her 1st daughter Sarah(born in Newry) survived and was married at 14.. I have attached a screenshot of this part of the Family, I have John & Sarah Shelly as his parents & John Parents as John Linsell b1755 & Mary Portway b1761..anything wrong or right let me know
kind regards
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
Thank you for the information, your tree section look as mine apart from William, I am pretty sure it's not that William. The 1871C of William of Finchingfield shows him married to Susannah with their 2 daughters, same also for 1881C, so I'm pretty sure it the Finchingfield William.
William of 70th Foot in on Braintree census in 1871 and 1881 with a wife Mary from Ireland. On 1861 he's in Kent Gillingham, in a military holding place, with again wife Mary from Ireland and a daughter Hannah age 12yrs born also Newry, Ireland - his birth is stared as Braintree.
Definitely the plot thickens!!
Sue
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Hi Sue
I was wondering where the census was ,, William Linsell left they army in May 1861 on the return of the 70 Foot from India (those that did not go to New Zealand)
Can you make out what the Condition is?... did they ship the return on in quarantine?
I cant find Hannah in the 1871 census did she die or marry?
thanks Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
it's a curious one isn't it - have saved a copy of 1861C, just trying to work out how I can share with you.
I haven't been able to trace Hannah either.
Currently I'm working on a theory that William's parents were John Lyndsell (b1795 Braintree/Sarah Ann Tyler b1792 poss Braintree). They have children from 1815-1827 but all the others are non-conformist. Can't work out why one would be different. However he is not William of Finchingfield 1821 or Great Canfield 1826, both have census appearances when William is in Braintree 1871C and it's clearly him on the census with wife no.2 from Ireland.
Sue
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Back again
Hannah dies aged 17 - they where in the 1861 census in Chatham (after returning from India)
I have found this tree on Ancestry - Hes mother maybe Sarah Ann TLYER b1782 -d1881 and is married 3 times, she marries John Linsell in Aug 1814 in Bocking (her 1st Marriage) John dies in 1834.
the Wedding Cert)1845 in Manchester) of William Linsell say hes father is John (but not deceased- when was this required?)
any thoughts. thanks