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Title: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Saturday 25 September 10 17:33 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out what happened to my GT Grandfathers brother William and his sister Janet bc 1851.

He was born on 26/1857 in Avoch

His parents were Janet Gray and Alexander McKenzie (labourer)

I think I found William in the 1861 census with his mother and sister at Dock His mum is recorded as being a Quarriers wife. There is no trace of Alexander or my grt grandfather Donald (have Alexander, Janet and Donalds death certs They all died in Aberdeen).

Then I am stuck. Can anyone find William or his sister Janet on any further census

Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Monday 12 March 18 12:44 GMT (UK)
I was wondering if anyone could look at this old post and offer any ideas

Thanks

Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: ev on Monday 12 March 18 13:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Norma ,

Could be worth a look William McKenzie death 17th Nov. 1909 Red Bluff Tehama Co. California USA ,
birth 26th Aug. 1857 Scotland , parents Alexander McKenzie and Nellie(?) Gray.(Familysearch)

Date of birth is the same as your William.


ev
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Monday 12 March 18 13:19 GMT (UK)
Could be. Where would I find more details as I don't have access to US records

Thanks

Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 12 March 18 13:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Higgsy was the family Catholics ?

There is a death for a William Mckenzie
Birth date 26/8/1857 Scotland
Death date 17/11/1909
Red Bluff Tehama Co California
Father Alexander McKenzie
Mother Nelly Gray

Burial date 9/11/1909 ( think the dates are transcribed wrong )
Catholic Cemetery

Tree on Ancestry has this William McKenzie

Rosie
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Monday 12 March 18 13:32 GMT (UK)
Have looked on Family Search and it states he was a stone cutter. Both my grit grandfather Donald And grit grt grandfather Alexander worked in the Quarries So it could fit.

But as far as I know they were not Catholic

Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 12 March 18 13:33 GMT (UK)
If you search www.familysearch.org you will see the death details and also 1900 census with his wife Ellen/Helen B

Rosie
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Monday 12 March 18 13:41 GMT (UK)
Have looked at the tree on Ancestry and they have Williams father dying in New Zealand but I know for a fact that my Alexander  and his wife died in Aberdeen and are buried in Newhills cemetry.

They have attached the same census that I thought were my William

My grt grt grandfather was from Avoch as far as I am aware as my mum used to tell me that my grandmother visited there.

My mum was not aware of any other children

Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 12 March 18 13:46 GMT (UK)
Yes was just going to post to be careful with that tree  ???


Rosie
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 12 March 18 14:31 GMT (UK)
Norma,

Could this be Janet and sons Donald and William in 1871:

Age
Jumel (as transcribed) Mckenzie 32 (also as showing on transcription) Agricultural Labourer Wife b. Avoch
Donald Mckenzie 24 b. Aberdeen
William Mckenzie 13 b. Avoch

Address: Bridge Street, Avoch

Monica
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Monday 12 March 18 15:10 GMT (UK)
Sorry should have said I have seen that census and think it could be them although Alexander was a quarry worker not at lab.

A bit more info Alexander dies 1887 In Dyce Aberdeen aged 66 no fathers name and only Jane as first name of mother

Janet dies 1877  in Dyce Aberdeen aged 60 father James Gray and mother Janet Wilson

In both cases son Donald reported death


Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 12 March 18 15:39 GMT (UK)
The William from California states in the 1900 census entry that he arrived in the US c. 1882 I have had a quick look on the manifests databases and as yet can't easily see him (but these are not 100%). I thought I could see him in 1881 boarding in Aberdeen in Scotland and then nothing. Could fit with him possibly leaving Scotland?

There is one other William isn't there, born in Avoch and son Hector. I think he shows in the very later censuses with first born son called Hector.

Monica
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 12 March 18 15:57 GMT (UK)
Sorry, meant to have included that in the 1881 census the William I mentioned had the occupation of a mason which I though connected with stone cutter!

Monica
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Monday 12 March 18 16:27 GMT (UK)
Monica

Which William was on the 1881 census? The California one or the one with the son Hector?

Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 12 March 18 16:34 GMT (UK)
Can't tell more as there is only one I can see  :-\

William McKenzie, mason, boarder b. Avoch was staying at the Ganson family in Aberdeen in 1881.

1891 has:

William Mckinzie 32 police constable b. Avoch
Christina Mckinzie 22
Thector Mckinzie 1
Address:Lochbay Cottage Stein, Duirinish

Monica
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 14 March 18 14:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Norma checked out a marriage for Jane McKenzie on SP  Inverkeithing 30 June 1876

Both of the same address 25,North Queensferry
James Dowie  age 25 ( mason )
Jane McKenzie age 25, ( domestic servant ) father Alexander McKenzie ( Quarryman)
Mother Janet McKenzie maiden name Grey
Witnesses William Dowie and Isabella Adamson

Possibility 1871 Census Jane McKenzie age 20 born Aberdeen ( general servant domestic )
At 8,Dundas Street Edinburgh ..

1881 Census Inverkeithing Dunfermline
James Dowie  age 29 ( Quarryman)
Jane Dowie age 30 b Aberdeen
Janet Gray Dowie age 3
Robert Dowie age 1
Both born North Queensferry

Death for Jane Dowie 1896 Inverkeithing age 46

Pm if you want copy of marriage

Rosie
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Wednesday 14 March 18 19:05 GMT (UK)
Wow Rosie Thank you

I have pm'd you


1 more branch to investigate.


Norma
Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 15 March 18 09:11 GMT (UK)
Have e-mailed you  :)

Looks like one of the sons died in the great war
Robert Dowie birth Queensferry
Died 3 May 1917 France and Flanders
S/13696
Black Watch {Royal Highlanders}

www.findagrave.com
Robert Dowie son of James and Jane McKenzie ..Husband of Jane Blackwood Dowie of Viewfield Berwickshire

Marriage for Robert Dowie to Jane Blackwood 1905 ST Giles

Rosie

Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: higgsy on Thursday 15 March 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you Rosie email received.

There is a tree Ancestry with James and Janet on it. They have a few children and the names tie in there is a Donald, Alexander and a William among others.

I will try contacting the owner

Norma

Title: Re: William McKenzie Avoch and sister Janet
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 15 March 18 16:10 GMT (UK)
Yes did notice the tree ...Also the names of other family members on the census forms hope you make contact with tree member ...Happy Hunting  ;D ;D

Rosie