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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: colin12 on Tuesday 28 September 10 21:47 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
Looking for some help with Alfred Slade b. 1879 London, joined the Royal Warkwickshires 1894 went to India, with 1st Battalion then transferred into the Indian Army. Later emerged in Calcutta when he married Rosa Clark 1918. Questions:When did he transfer and to which unit and what happened to him after the marriage?
Cheers
Colin
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Hi Colin
FamilySearch Pilot have a death for Alfred Slade on the 15 May 1926, Lucknow India died and buried same date.
Their records also have the marriage as 18th Sept 1913 not 1918 but I suppose that it's easy to mistake one for the other on old records. The record also reports the brides status as "widowed" and her father's name is recorded as James Duggan.
There is also a birth recorded for a James Alfred Slade on the 10th Sept 1906 at Chakrata, Bengal, India. The father is recorded as Alfred Slade, mother Rosa. Plus his later marriage (James's) to Muriel Giddens Hartley.
There is some more info on the same page recording the marriage of a Rosa Mary Slade, born 1908, father William Alfred Slade, to an Albert Edward Biford, and another of a Florence Sarah Slade, born1910, father William Alfred Slade, to William Charles Franklin
Hope all that is of some help!
Tony
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Hi Tony,
Thats great, do you think the marriage, Alfred to Rosa, could be 1903 not 1913/8 as James was born 1906?
Thanks for your input
Colin
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Hi Tony,
Thats great, do you think the marriage, Alfred to Rosa, could be 1903 not 1913/8 as James was born 1906?
Thanks for your input
Colin
I suppose it's a possibility Colin. Much depends on how accurate the transcription is from the original document. Alfred would certainly have been of age in 1903, as would Rosa - she being widowed.
I think this is one of those where you have to put your own interpretation on events unless/until you see the originals.
It would be interesting to find the circumstances surrounding his death. As he was in the Indian Army, was it a result of some skirmish or, more likely, disease. Cholera and typhoid were regular killers of the Europeans.
It seems from the records that the majority, if not all, his children married after his death.
Tony
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Alfred William Slade is my Great Grandfather and his marriage to Rosa Duggan was in 1913, 18th Sept. in Calcutta.I have a copy of the original schedule. Alfred 33yrs, bachalor, Band Corporel, father John Slade.
Rosa was a widow and her last name was Clark. She was 28, father James Duggan.
Rosa was previously married to a Charles Clark on 3rd July 1901 in Bombay. She was only 16yrs .
My Grandfather Frederick Duggan Slade was born 16th August 1905 in Bombay and his Baptism was on the 14th Sept. 1905. So there was a period when Rosa and Alfred were together and having children and they were not married.
Colin, how do you know that Alfred joined the Royal Warwicks in 1894? I would love to get my hands on his service information. I know he was in the Royal Warwickshire Reg. and was a Band Master, but thats all.
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Hi,
Pleased to hear from you, I am doing this research for Fredrick Slade who lives in North Yorkshire and I beleive is now 78
Colin
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Hi Colin,
Frederick Slade is my Dad and we have been at a dead end with Alfred William Slade's service records for years and "t mo" has been very kind and helpful. He managed to send me the front Attestation pages of both my great grandfathers who were both in the Royal Warwicks. I now have their Army numbers and where they enlisted.
I understand that you have been helping too, and I am very grateful.
Deb.
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Hi Deb,
I have found most of the children belonging to A W Slade, about 9 in all, however 5 of those died at birth or soon after, Rosa was married before to Charles Clark and some of the children shown as Alfreds were in fact Charles.
I am in touch with Matthew Slade, whose Great Grandfather was Harry Slade, Alfreds older brother.
Would it be possible for you to send me copies of the attestation papers?
I am sending my findings up to your fathers old friend Alan Alfred, ex Lt Colonel in the Royal Signals to pass on to your father in the near future.
Regards
Colin
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hi,Alfred joined up at Aldershot 3rd May 1893 age 15,,he was a messenger by trade.
on enlistment he was 5 ft tall, weighed 88lb,,fair complexion,brown eyes and dark brown har.
he joined as a "boy" and 2 years later was a bandsman.
he served
home 1893-95
malta 1895-97
egypt 1897-98
east indies 1898-1905
he was part of the nile expedition 1898 and was awarded
the egypy/sudan medal with clasp for khartoum
queens sudan medal
he was transferred in 1905,,,,hope this helps :)
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http://www.findmypast.co.uk/chelseaPensionerSearchResult.action?sdrfnbr=975915124
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Gorton Boy,
Brilliant, thanks so much, its a pity the Indian Records are not so accessible, will keep trying
Regards
Colin
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Hi Colin,
I will send you a copy of the service records of Alfred W. Slade if you send me a pm with your email address.
Reading what you were saying about Rosa's children being brought up as Alfreds, ... which ones are you referring to? I know about Rosa's first child Charles, but which other ones?
Deb.
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I am searching for information regarding my grandfathers sisters husband John Henry Anthony Slade and his father Alfred William Slade. I have details on when he was born, his marriage etc but am partically interested in finding information on the miltary side of things. Any information or help would be much appriciated also any records anyone could send me would be wonderful.
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hi,,when and where were they born? ;)
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Alfred was born in london 1879. Alfred was a bandmaster in the 5th Maharattas. John was born on 9th June 1913 in Dacca Burma - are you researching the same family? :)
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no...just trying to help ;)
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That's really kind - do you have any information or documents you could send me?
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hi,,i think i can help you,,,,was his mother called Sarah? did she remarry to a joseph benstead? ;)
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I am not sure of Alfred's mother is yet. I can give you details regarding Alfred and his sone John Henry Anthony Slade if you let me know what information you would like :)
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looking at one of your other threads..i can see that someone else is also researching this family,,,he alluded to service in the warwickshire regiment,,,he was correct,,,i think that person has his military service record. The record is available on the findmypast website. ;)
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brilliant thank you - do you have to pay for this website?
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No need to pay, I will send them to you.
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seems you are already sorted with this,,,will leave you to dnslade capable hands ;D
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My Grandfather was James Alfred Slade, he was Married to Muriel Blanch Hartley. They had four children Shirley, Joan, Jimmy and Jeanette, I think my Grandmother was a divorcee and had children from that marriage but they all stayed together as a family.
They came back to England in 1964, and went to live in Leeds. Grandma died after a few year's of trying to settle here, I think the weather was one of the coldest on record the year they came and she never got over her illness. Granddad worked all his life here then retired, Burradaddy is what we would all call him died in1978 and is buried with Grandma in Leeds Hunslet Cemetery.
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Hi, just found this site and I realise this topic is quite old, so may not get a reply..but here goes. It seems I am researching the same family line, my great great g.father is alfred william slade b.1879 london, he joined the r.w.r and went to India. His daughter rosa b.1906/7 married my great grandfather albert edward byford b.1901 who was in the rifle brigade in 1925 lucknow, their son Henry is my grandfather.
I have managed to trace alfred' s wife's parents who were duggan and then Carter and then carrick. But am stuck with finding James duggan's parents all I know is that his father was John.
I'm also having trouble finding my g.grandfather's attestation records, I have him in the UK 1901 & 1911 census (presuming it's the right one), did a check to see if he was born in india but nothing. From the birth details of his and rosa' s son in 1926 he was a warder at the detention barracks in lucknow, haven't be able to find any other siblings as yet. I have never met my grandfather to ask him all the questions I have.
Would be great to talk to others researching the same line :)
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To Bernadine.
I am your cousin Kevin Tomkyns son of Joan Rosa Tomkyns (nee Slade). I have been trying to contact Aunty Shirley and Aunty Jeanette to let them know of my mothers passing. I have since discovered that my Aunty Shirley has also passed. I would like to make contact with my cousins and remaining Aunt Jeanette. A quick search on the internet for Kevin Tomkyns will find my contact details from my business website or from VMX Sports website. Please make contact.
Regards,
Kevin
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Hi Kevin, I cannot get through to your email address, please send me another one if possible.
Bernadine.