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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: elliekats on Sunday 10 October 10 00:24 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am searching for any information on the surname of Husband:
My many times GGGF was John Husband (not sure of dates) and we believe he married Jannet Black. They had a son John Husband b.1708) in Fife Scotland(?). He married Ann Hay(B. June 1714). Had a son - (and possibly other children) William who married Elizabeth Bisset. William and Elizabeth had a son - Robert Husband (B. 1783 Fife Scotland, D.1855) and I think also had Catherine (B. 1778 and John B.1780 - but not 100% sure). Robert had a son - Blair Henderson Husband (B.1833 Scotland). Blair had a son - Robert Alexander Husband (B. 1869 in either Fife or Ireland) and D. 1944 in Homebush Sydney Australia). Robert Alexander had three sons (Kenneth Ernest lane husband who is my grandfather (B. 1907 in Petersham Sydney Australia and d. 1988), Jeppy and Arthur) and four daughters- Mimmy, Ira, Gertrude and Illma. Kenneth Ernest Lane Husband had my Dad Kenneth William who then had me and my brother Brett.
It appears that Blair came to Australia to establish a canning works for a company he worked for. His wife followed him and they settled in McLean NSW Australia.
I would like to find out if the family tree extends further back. And am curious as to why - when the surname is so obviously of English origins - the family came from Fife Scotland - as Husband is not of Scottish clan orgins. I must confess my ignorance here n regards to the history - daresay there is a reason?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Emma
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Dear Elliekats
I can help you with some of this. John H and Ann Hay were my 5th great grandparents and I know whose John's parents were.
I have Blair b1835 in my tree, but no descendants for him. He and his siblings were all born at Ferry Port on Craig, Fife.
John's father David started life at Leuchars, Fife. As far as I know, Husband is a fairly common Scottish name.
I will send you a descendants report starting with David as a personal email.
John Gourlay
Melbourne, Australia
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Hello John, thanks so much for your reply. I have the rest of the family tree - but its at work and I was only relying on memory. One of my Dad's Cousins is currently doing indepth study of the family (Ron) and has been visiting Mclean in NSW and found Blair's Headstone.
Its curious that you mention that the surname Husband is a common Scottish name....but I can't find any mention of it when I look for scottish clan names. Do we have a tartan?
Emma
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No tartan that I'm aware of. Neither have the Gourlays or many other now common Scottish names. Gourlay for instance is most likely a Norman name, that goes back to 12th century Scotland.
I'm sure there are many on this site that can explain the clans far better than me. I gave up, but I think it basically goes back in antiquity and the original natives.
regards
John g
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Do you have a Robert Blyth Husband born 21 Jan 1839in Windygates, Fife, to James Husband and Isabella Blyth? He married Isabella Kinnes and had at least nine children.
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Emma there are 10 times more records in England than Scotland for the surname Husband on the 1841 census so I would say the origins are English. Maybe they were soldiers stationed in Scotland after the 1745 rebellion.
Clans are a highlands phenomenon and the tartans that we associate with family names today have their origins in the early 1800s when tartan started to be produced commercially.
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Dear Ostler
I'm travelling at the moment and consequently on a remote computer. I can pick up my GenesReunited tree but couldn't find them. It sounded very familiar to me.
I did however find one Husband Blyth connection in my family and that is a William Blyth b Logie 1822 married to Ann Husband also b Logie 1817. They had 6 children that I know of.
regards
John Gourlay
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Hi Sancti,
thank you for your reply. John has kindly given me a copy of the Husband FT and it goes back so far to David Husband born c1645 in Leuchars, Fife, Scotland. David married Agnes HENDERSON and they were married c1667 in Leuchars, Fife, Scotland. Agnes HENDERSON was born c1649 in Leuchars, Fife, Scotland. So it appears the Husband name was there at least 1649 - before the rebellion.
Thanks for your help.
Kind regards
Emma
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Do you have a Robert Blyth Husband born 21 Jan 1839in Windygates, Fife, to James Husband and Isabella Blyth? He married Isabella Kinnes and had at least nine children.
I have done some research around this arm of the family, James / Isabella being my x3 grand parents. Happy to share what I know, equally happy to hear of others findings.
Michael
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According to Black's "The Surnames of Scotland", "Husband" probably corresponded to the English "yeoman" and gives examples of the name Husband being found in Scotland as far back as 1291 at Invernairn, which is quite far north.
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I have done some research around this arm of the family, James / Isabella being my x3 grand parents. Happy to share what I know, equally happy to hear of others findings.
Michael
Hi Michael, sorry for the late reply. I would be very interested in finding out what you know about this family.
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Just found this discussion off a Google search and wanted to chime in. There is another branch of the Husband family in the USA mostly in Texas for the past 150 years or so. I currently live in Northern Virginia but am on va action this week to Scotland so if you have any ideas on where and whom to visit I'll try to put them on our list.
Warm regards,
Mike
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If Johnoz (John Gourlay) is still active in this forum then this message is for you. You say you are connected to William Blyth and his wife Ann (nee Husband) from Logie. So am I. Ann Husband, born 18 June 1817 in Logie, was the sister of my 2 x great grandfather George Husband, born 27 July 1823 after the family had moved to Belmiello, Leuchars. I have some information about Ann's parents, grandparents and siblings but also a lot of gaps. I would be happy to share if you would care to reply to this site.
Thank you
Neil Hardie
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"Husband Name Meaning English: occupational name for a peasant farmer, from Middle English husband ‘tiller of the soil’, ‘husbandman’. The term (late Old English husbonda, Old Norse húsbóndi), a compound of hús ‘house’ + bóndi (see Bond) originally described a man who was head of his own household, and this may have been the sense in some of the earliest examples of the surname."
I'm assuming too that the term "animal husbandry" likely came from the name Husband -meaning farmer.
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Jamjar
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Hello I am searching for any information on my Great Grandfather James Husband (born between 1820-1840)
He married my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Gibney around 1890 in Co. Meath Ireland.
My family has been told that James was Scottish and census records have shown that he was a soldier. My family have also been told that James was previously married in Scotland before emigrating (and an alleged bigamist)
No one in my family can find any records of James before he moved to Ireland
I would love to find out more about him
Many thanks
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Hello I am searching for any information on my Great Grandfather James Husband (born between 1820-1840)
He married my Great Grandmother Elizabeth Gibney around 1890 in Co. Meath Ireland.
Hmm, Amina, (Welcome to Rootschat) ;)
The dates you give are a bit questionable.
Born 1820 - 1840 married 1890 between the ages of 50 & 70 yrs old then had a family?
Can you supply all the info. from the marriage please?
Age, occupation, father's name, father's occupation?
Does it state whether single/widowed/divorced?
How old was Elizabeth when she married James?
How many children did they have & can you give them by name in order please as this can help with the scottish naming pattern?
Annie
Added, This query may be best on a new thread as there is no indication of a connection with original poster at present?
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie lists the marriage of James Husban (without the 'd') to Elizabeth Gibney on 10 January 1884 in Oldcastle, Co Meath. He was a soldier, aged 40, son of James Husban, painter. She was 33, daughter of Richard Gibney, labourer.
They had sons John, born 26 September 1885; Richard, born 1 September 1890; Peter, born 27 June 1894.
The family is in the 1901 census of Ireland at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
James Husband, 60, army pensioner and agricultural labourer; wife Elizabeth Husband, 50; son John Husband, 14; son Richard Husband, 11; son Peter Husband, 7, all born in County Meath.
In 1911 they are still there, in Baltrasna, Killeagh, Co Meath; James, 84; Elizabeth, 65; John, 18; Richard, 16; John, 14, all born Co Meath. Obviously the ages in the census are wrong but the rest looks OK.
James died on 17 January and and Elizabeth on 22 December the same year, 1919.
You can and should look at all these images online to confirm the information and extract any additional details from the certificates and census.
You will need to get hold of his Army records to find out where he enlisted and where he served in order to get some idea of whether he could have married in Scotland. Someone else on RootsChat may be able to find them for you - I don't have the necessary subscriptions.
There are half a dozen marriages of James Husbands on Scotland's People (SP) at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. You can check the names of the parents of all these James Husbands at SP, and you can look for death certificates which, unlike the Irish ones, will tell you the names of their parents, so you may be able to eliminate some of them. The marriage certificates should also tell you their occupations.
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Hi Husband researchers, I'm very interested in the posts as my gtgt gt grandfather was William husband married to Christina irons, who was born abt 1830,born Leuchars, gtgt gran Elizabeth, their dgt died,, 1894,in St Andrews. She was married to John blake. If there's a chance of seeing the family trees mentioned I will be delighted. I've just sent details of some family to Fife Council to try and locate graves. I go shopping to St Andrews a lot, so anything I can help with, just let me know. Regards, Elaine
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My mother was the daughter of Gertrude Husband. I have a patent of Blair Henderson Husband that he applied for in Australia. Did you see the WDYTYA episode with Anne Reid? She goes to the house that David Husband built in Scotland.
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Some good reading here;
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php?t-23010.html
Annie
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Hi, wow, is this Anne Reid the actress?
Always admired her and always watch who do I think you are? Was that this year?
Can't believe I missed it.
I will have to check and see if William born 1821 is my gtgtgt grandfather.
Thank you so much for this. Amazing
Elaine
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Hi folks, yes, it appears that my gtgtgt grandfather William husband and Anne reids ancestor Margaret husband were siblings. Amazing, I am glad that I missed the episode after reading the comments on her attitude. I have admired her as an actress for a long time but....
I will nip down to logie next week (40min drive) and have a look around.
Funnily enough, I did see the episode with Jeremy Irons, his ancestors were from Dundee, just across the River Tay from Logie. William husband (brother of Margaret) married an Irons (name slipped from mind isabella?) I've started researching this and it looks like I'm related to him too!
William husband and Ms Irons were my gtgt grandparents.
Elaine
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Hello
I've recently found my ancestor Catherine Husband born 1778 in the parish of Leuchars, Fife. She married James Dewar in Leuchars 1805 and had 10 children in Leuchars and Kilmany Parishes. Very recently I've corresponded with another ancestor of William Husband and Elizabeth Bisset's children. They go back to John, born 1780. So it looks like Robert is another sibling. I'm waiting for an update on the Husband tree, going back to the early 1600's
Dave33
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Hi Dave33, amazing I've just been sitting looking at this family. Anything you have on this family most welcome. As youve probably read on the thread, I live pretty close to Dunbog, Leuchars and before the current restrictions was there often. I've just replied in a private message to someone else who had sent a message and it only popped up when you sent yours.
I was asking if they had a tree on any of the sites??
Maybe I could help you both fill in any gaps.
You could maybe private message me. I think I've just got back a generation which once I have clarified will post for any other husband researcher.
Another thing, I've been round some of the graveyards, found nothing relevant. Hard to read, badly damaged. However I know that my gtgt gran Elizabeth husband is buried in St Andrews graveyard and thst was the summers project but.......
Fife Council were good at telling me where burial sites are and for anyone researchng them I'm happy to go searching when able to!!
Elaine
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Hello Elaine
I'm not really familiar with this site, but was a member years ago. Very recently I've been in touch with two people on another site, and mention the Husband chat here. The beauty of the Husbands in Fife is that there were very few of them, centred around Leuchars, St. Andrews and St.Leonards, plus Ceres parishes. The people I've been in touch with were descendants of John Husband born Leuchars parish, 1780, a brother of my Catherine. Trying to go further back, the earliest Fife Husband was a marriage of Janet Husband to Thomas Dairsie in Anstruther Wester in 1591. I don't think that all births and marriages could have been registered then, and no deaths are recorded. Before 1650 there are only 4 Fife Husband marriages, and I think 9 births recorded, there are 2 in Ceres in 1621 and 1623. There's also a family in St.Andrews and St. Leonards parish with 5 registered kids. The parents were Thomas Husband and Agnes Mathew, one child was Elizabeth, born 1639.
I thought to access 2 early Husband wills today, one was William Husband, Leuchars 1616, the other was a tailor in St Andrews 1606. The 1616 will was in such archaic script that its unreadable. Originally I questioned whether it was Latin, so I haven't bothered with the other.
Is the Elizabeth you're looking at Elizabeth Bisset? I'm sure I haven't been able to read all the Husband posts, but it hadn't twigged when watching the Ann Reid programme about her ancestor in Logie that she had a Husband connection. I recall being unhappy watching it, thinking of her idiot, criminal, supposed schoolmaster, teaching my Brunton ancestors at the time.
I grew up in Fife, and would cycle to Lindores Loch from Markinch to fish, or sometimes watch them curling on the frozen loch. What a lovely part of the country your in..............Dave
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Hi Dave, lovely to hear from you. Firstly I'm descended from Elizabeth born abt 1852 the daughter of William and Christina irons (she makes me related to jerminy irons the actor who has also starred on who do you think you are? as his ancestors were Dundee). As yet I haven't caught that episode with Anne Reid tho I've heard abt it from Australia from a husband descendant, she has been slammed for it and I always liked her, thought she was brilliant in dinner ladies etc recently watched her in last tango in Halifax and could feel my dander rising!!!! Now, I believe it showed a house that was built by David??? Husband in dunbog, someone is going to get back to me on address. Do you know where it is.?? I'm only 40m away and will go look. My plan summer past was to find the graves and, of course, that is now on hold. Fife Council gave me the details of Elizabeths grave, she is in the amazing graveyard at the front of St Andrews beside ruined castle.
I'm org from west coast, Glasgow area and we went to St Andrews for our hols, was blown away when I found out I had Fife ancestors. Quick story, I was down abt 6 years ago with friends, parked up and looked at the houses and said Blimey id love to live here, less than a week later I discovered that Elizabeth lived and died in the house we were parked outside!! Can you believe that?
She was my gtgt gran.
Anyway, I'll have a good look at what you told me and tie it to mine and get back to you, if you need any research done from this end just ask.
Regards Elaine
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The John Husband mentioned, was born in Leuchars parish in 1670 marrying Janet Black at Leuchars in 1707. John's parents were David Husband, born Leuchars 1651, and Agnes Anderson born about 1653. I've got their marriage in Leuchars as about 1667- would make them very young, but possible. His parents I have as Alexander Husband, born Ceres in 1629 and Agnes Watsone born about1633. They married at Ceres on 20th July 1649. In turn he is the son of john Husband, born about1610, and Janet Bandie. They married Ceres, about1627.
These are the ancestors of the offsprings of William Husband and Elizabeth Bisset, who married in Leuchars on 30th November, 1764. I'm descended from their daughter Catherine, born 1778
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Thanks Dave, I've got them too also got John born c1610 father, William no spouse. And that's the end of the line.
Elaine
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Hi, thought I'd give you Anne Reids ancestry while we're on it!! This is the actress who featured on Who do you think you are??
From William husband and Elizabeth Bissett - David born 1745 (who would be the brother of both Dave and my ancestors). David married Margaret Dixon /Dickson born Ceres 1749. They had David born circa 1771 who married Isabella Heggie. They had Margaret 1800 who married Reid, she died young and David brought up her children.
There is one question over the previous tree. Dave has Agnes Anderson married to David b1745. I've seen both names used but according to my heritage record matches on my tree it is Henderson. Think it has been misread at some point.
Anyway, that's it. As I live nearest anyone wanting further info or pics just drop me a line.
All going well, next summers project is exploring the villages they lived in and finding graves.
Elaine
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David Husband married to Isabella Heggie was my 3xgrt grandfather. They had 3 sets of twins. One twin, David married Sarah Matthew. Don't know how many children they had, but one son, David was my grandmother's father. My grandmother, Euphamia was a twin.